posted February 06, 2023 04:28 PM            

I have the Ic and Moon conj in Cancer. So for me, the two overlap. But I would like to know what you all think the differences are.

posted February 06, 2023 04:45 PM            

The IC is a precise point that must be accurately calculated based on precise birth location and an accurate Asc figure. IC is the point furthest from the MC marking one's relationship to cosmos and higher aims. So the IC marks the interior life with one's inner self, personal psychology, family, human 'roots' and history. It is the geographic landing point from which we orient our lives on a very personal level. It is not the body itself, but the context from which we relate to others and life.

The Moon is visible and gives a palpable feeling to almost everyone. It has long been used to mark cycles relevant to women and seasonal changes 13 times through the year.

The IC is a point in space, the undersky, known only by inference (opposite the Midheaven) but not visible, so more esoteric. That implies a lot of what it is in the birth chart.

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posted February 06, 2023 05:38 PM            

I have a question if you don't mind

Sometimes I wonder why the IC is lowest point in chart while in reality the IC corresponds whith Cancer which starts at 12pm midday while the Sun is in the middle of the sky or if we look at the ecliptic the tropic of Cancer is on the north ... I mean why they are inverted in the chart ?? ? Shouldnt the IC be on top of the chart like what we see in reality?

posted February 07, 2023 08:00 PM            

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posted February 08, 2023 11:03 AM            

With angles, I have always felt that they are more dynamic in nature. This because of their more specific and focused effect on the native. Especially when we consider solar arc progressions.

So (by extension) I would think that the rulers of the angles would also be heightened in importance in the chart.

For if the Moon is the proverbial "house" where you are directed to find the person,then the Ic would be the specific bedroom they will be in. If the Moon is the city that you are travelling to for an interview, then the Ic is the specific building/ floor where the interview will be conducted.

There is something very personal about both. But the Ic is extremely sensitive ime. The axis of Mc/Ic is status change- whether for "good" or " struggle". It is usually the "event" itself. Whilst the Moon is the feelings surrounding the ordeal.

My sister(for instance), has Moon in Aries. But Ic is in Virgo. Solar Arc Sun Sag was square her Mc/Ic last year. She graduated University.

This year, solar Arc Mars is arcing to conj her Ic and opp her Mc. She is moving homes for a job.

At the time that she got the call to come through for training, her natal Moon was conj transiting Jupiter(direct hit).

The Moon contributes to personality(I agree). The Ic/ Mc axis is sensitive (yes) to events. This as the native is magnetized to certain events that shape their perspective and deepen the retentive knowledge of the Moon(and as a consequence) affects their solar expression.

For instance, two people can have Sun in Gem /Moon in Lib. But perhaps one has the currebt hit of Pluto on their Ic. This means that right now that are magnetizing themes of "death","rebirth", "transformation" and "loss" .

And through those experiences/ themes,their Moon in Libra dips into melancholy. And the transit of Juputer in Aries (by opposition) is helping them to look at the "lessons" and "growth" in all this.

posted February 09, 2023 08:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
There is a metaphoric relationship between undersky (IC) and the sign of Cancer, not a 1:1 synonymous relationship. The human mind when operating in a more linear fashion wants to line these things up, but the nature of metaphor is to see similarities or overlap in what is different or distinct.

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posted February 09, 2023 08:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
Thank you
Its just the drawing of the chart confuses for example the planets instead of rising above the horizon on the Asc they descend from the 1st to 3rd house ...

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Not so. The Earth turns, rotating the Asc/eastern horizon point so that planets move from nearer the IC, up to the Asc and over it. When the Sun rises in the morning it is moving from the 1st house space into the 12th house space.

Maybe you're thinking of how transits or progressions move through the houses of the stationary birth chart: in an easterly direction (unless retrograde). That would mean a transiting or progressing Sun would move from the visible 12th house space over the Asc into the non-visible 1st house space.

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posted February 11, 2023 02:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Not so. The Earth turns, rotating the Asc/eastern horizon point so that planets move from nearer the IC, up to the Asc and over it. When the Sun rises in the morning it is moving from the 1st house space into the 12th house space.

Maybe you're thinking of how transits or progressions move through the houses of the stationary birth chart: in an easterly direction (unless retrograde). That would mean a transiting or progressing Sun would move from the visible 12th house space over the Asc into the non-visible 1st house space.

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I can imagine that now, ... Sorry for the confusion!