posted April 29, 2025 08:40 AM            

This is the "People shall govern" transit. The powerful effect of group think and how the masses can manipulate and change a narrative, is clear.

But there is more. With this will also be the balance between progress & regression. As Aqua is affiliated with both the future as well as the past(the latter often erroneously exclusively given to Saturn).

At some point,the group will need to decide when something is "progress" and when it's "regress" .And this(especially for the first 10 degrees of Aqua), will be a painful and expensive guessing game.

You will see this in the "hit"/"miss" box office hits and trending series. They will either be on par with what the masses agree with OR endure the backlash of being "out of touch". An example of this is the "All girl" crew that went to space in the US.

Absolute power corrupts. Absolutely. The masses can enjoy exclusive power for now by ensuring certain narratives succeed and others don't.

But with every group, comes a point where there is a splinter/fork in the road. People will disagree(as they always have and will) on what is "progress" and what is "regression".

This is when divisions happen and what was once unity, is fracture or oppositions. That MUST occur too.

Aqua Plu will result in the masses looking for a narrow identities to define the collective I.e. I am black. So therefore any racist statements targeted at an actor who is black, are also targeted at ME.

So in our search for this sense of community, we may find ourselves intuitively/actively siding with certain groups because of shared identity or ideals.People we would ordinarily not side or collaborate with at all in other settings

When this shared identity is challenged, we will see a mass resistance by the said group-as was the case with the Maori people in New Zealand where people from all walks of life joined together as a collective to oppose a parliamentary agreement towards an undesirable outcome.

Now the opposite energy of Leo from Aqua is individuation and always poses a threat of the collapse of the whole.

It's like someone from the Maori tribe being asked "Why didn't you attend the protest?" responding with " I am human first before I am anything. I don't identify with strictly being Maori".

That statement alone would anger and ostracize the individual from other Maorians. No doubt!

As most of us willingly join up with the masses for a shared vision with this Plu in Aqua, there will be what others will call "outliers" who seek to maintain individuality ( as the above example says).

These above types may be hated and receive a lot of criticism. Hence why I spoke of Leo energy types or those with solar energy prominent (who are mostly for individuation) having a hard time with Plu Aqua.

The above's refusal to pander to the collective,will not sit well. It will build up to hostility and backlash. And unless they make a concerted effort to empathize with group think, their "I" approach will be seen as very problematic.

But interestingly, as Plu gets closer to the mid 15Deg( where Aqua is in the Leo duad) that will all start to shift in the other way. Uranus rules Aqua after all and things can flip on their head.

At that point, people will then start to be more open to individuality,the right to be who you are and not cave into "herd" mentality. The right for there to be differences and have those differences celebrated /respected etc.

At this stage,people will realize that I don't have to depend on an actor on TV to be a representative of my race,my gender, my "being". That they (actor) will never reflect the nuances of the complex being that I am anyways.

For now however,people are looking for mass agreement and representation. As they will galvanize and organize into their respective groups to implement group "think" power to what they agree and (more importantly) disagree with.

So heaven help that person on the receiving end of that now(especially when it's a public figure)as they will feel like they have been banished into exile island. Way outside of human contact and reach

posted May 02, 2025 07:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
Power outages in Spain and Portugal. Pluto in Aquarius?

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posted May 02, 2025 07:41 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Bali, too.

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I knew I forgot one! Thank you.

posted May 03, 2025 06:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
I knew I forgot one! Thank you.

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An astrologer I follow, lives there, and mentioned it. I wasn’t criticizing, I was adding it on.

posted May 06, 2025 07:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
Power outages in Spain and Portugal. Pluto in Aquarius?

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For me? No.

Pluto in Aqua as it affects the world would be something which tends to affect the Identity of the group. Or something symbolic and represents an ideology of a group.

It could be the stripping away of rights that belong to a group (like in the instance of the Maori people)? The death of prominent group leader that leaves the members scrambling for a sense of identity post the leader's death? Maybe even an issue that affects certain groups of people and not others (in terms of identity) I.e. racial / culture/ language differentiation ?etc.

Countries where group mentality- either it's in terms of nationality, racial Identity, political affiliation etc. Will be impacted by this transit. Their shared identity will be put to the test and perhaps(at some point) dismantled.

In this country, Plu in Aqua ingress coincided with the white Afrikaaners protesting against land re-appropriation. So much so , they cited discrimination and asked Donald Trump for help.

The whites are a minority here. But have the majority of the country's resources (thanks to Apartheid). This transit of Plu sees their middle and lower class seeing their national significance challenged. As the re-appropriation of land will affect them the most and the lifestyle that they have come to know and love.

A power outtage that happened for a few days,is not Pluto. Not by a long shot. It may be Uranus or even Mercury triggers. But not Pluto. Plu events tend to be big and a life perspective change.

Way back in 2010, Spain won the world cup. This was a win that made the nation very proud and boosted morale. The momentum of high spirits from that win lasted for a few months post the event.

Transiting Plu retro was exactly conjunct Spain's progressed Sun at the time. Trans Jup was squaring the prog Sun when they won.

Events such as the World Cup are 11th house affiliated because they involve rooting for your team(11th) and associating one's Idnetity with the collective team(11th).

posted May 06, 2025 08:44 AM            

But the win was overshadowed by controversy as then-Spanish Football Federation (RFEF) president Luis Rubiales kissed player Jenni Hermoso as part of what he called "congratulatory affection ".

Spain has a tense Plu-Ven Lib conj that is opposed to Aries Jup and square to Cancer Moon.

Progressed Moon in Aries triggered this square as well as transiting Moon in Libra-highlighting a long standing issue if misogyny and sexism that extends well past the team to the nation of Spain itself in how it's males treat women.

Interestingly , Rubiales(part of this debacle) lost his job in the backlash. And he also has natal Plu Lib aspecting this triggered energy of cardinal signs.

There is a doc called "Its all over: the kiss that changed Spanish Football" which documents all of this on Netflix.

Pluto tends to be about societal shifts in prejudices and attitudes. It challenges existing value systems and is extremely polarizing in essence (because we each have our own strong opinions about something)

When triggered, it's ramifications are far-reaching and quite difficult to reverse.

During all this,trans Plu in Aqua was in retrograde motion after ingressing to conjunct Spain's Asc- 3Aqua.

posted May 16, 2025 04:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
For me? No.

Pluto in Aqua as it affects the world would be something which tends to affect the Identity of the group. Or something symbolic and represents an ideology of a group.

It could be the stripping away of rights that belong to a group (like in the instance of the Maori people)? The death of prominent group leader that leaves the members scrambling for a sense of identity post the leader's death? Maybe even an issue that affects certain groups of people and not others (in terms of identity) I.e. racial / culture/ language differentiation ?etc.

Countries where group mentality- either it's in terms of nationality, racial Identity, political affiliation etc. Will be impacted by this transit. Their shared identity will be put to the test and perhaps(at some point) dismantled.

In this country, Plu in Aqua ingress coincided with the white Afrikaaners protesting against land re-appropriation. So much so , they cited discrimination and asked Donald Trump for help.

The whites are a minority here. But have the majority of the country's resources (thanks to Apartheid). This transit of Plu sees their middle and lower class seeing their national significance challenged. As the re-appropriation of land will affect them the most and the lifestyle that they have come to know and love.

A power outtage that happened for a few days,is not Pluto. Not by a long shot. It may be Uranus or even Mercury triggers. But not Pluto. Plu events tend to be big and a life perspective change.

Way back in 2010, Spain won the world cup. This was a win that made the nation very proud and boosted morale. The momentum of high spirits from that win lasted for a few months post the event.

Transiting Plu retro was exactly conjunct Spain's progressed Sun at the time. Trans Jup was squaring the prog Sun when they won.

Events such as the World Cup are 11th house affiliated because they involve rooting for your team(11th) and associating one's Idnetity with the collective team(11th).

Sure enough, Spain had progressed Sun in their natal 11th(Placidus) at the time of the win.

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People are also having issues talking to each other, trusting each other, and making friends (Aquarius)! It sure sounds like at least, in part, a Pluto in Aquarius, problem, to me.

posted May 17, 2025 02:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
People are also having issues talking to each other, trusting each other, and making friends (Aquarius)! It sure sounds like at least, in part, a Pluto in Aquarius, problem, to me.

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Yea, I think that sounds more like it. Friendships that have been established for years , breaking up? People finding it difficult to find a friendship circle that they belong to? Or being in a position of being forced to either identify with the group's shared ideals (on one hand) . Or risk isolation and exclusion (on the other)?

Many people may find that their friends start to have strong opinions about certain things. Opinions that force a "for" or "against" stance on those others they associate with.

Or it could mean that the native themselves start to have extreme views in terms of whether friends align with their perspectives or not.

This especially if there is Plu in 11th(like me) or Plu in aspect to a planet in the 11th house or aspecting the 11th house ruler. Then friendships can end in a dramatic way in some instances. Or start because of extremist views shared with others.

We must however be careful that as individuals, we don't fall into the domineering energy of group mentality. That we don't just "go with the crowd " because of fear of backlash or thinking something contrary to it.

Standing on our own principles on what's right and wrong, will be imperative. This no matter how unpopular we may end up being. As long as those principles are not encouraging harm and hate to others.

Even as individuals, we must strive towards being reasonable(although it will be difficult). Our best friend of many years may not agree with all our perspectives. But that doesn't mean they don't care for or love us. It's just a difference of opinion.

The personal challenge here is resisting always using the "if you are not for me, you are against me" mentality against friends, team members and even family (as Plu in Aqua will affect that group mentality in that context too)?

There could also be that "an injury to one is an injury to all" mentality that rises. And even though this (at its best) can encourage collective fight for justice. It also means that people tend to be offended as a collective- this even if this is not their personal fight. Offense is taken still as if it is.

So we'll find a lot of "even though this issue is about X, as a Y I am deeply offended and think that all Y's should take a stance to do something about this issue. If not, they are not truly Y's"