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BrigitsGal
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posted March 02, 2023 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BrigitsGal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi All! Needing some input here...I was taught long ago by a well seasoned/respected astrologer that any planet at 29 degrees gets read into the next sign. And may show traits from both signs. Now I'm hearing other astrologers refute this. What's the real story with this? Thanks guys!

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Kannon McAfee
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posted March 02, 2023 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That would be presumptive, misguided interpretation. When a person appears to align with such an interpretation there is always another astrological reason for it that such an astrologer is overlooking or just completely unaware of. There are a lot of seasoned mediocre astrologers out there.

Here is how it breaks down ...

The luminaries both have apparent discs (diameter/width) of about half a degree. The Moon varies a bit more, sometimes going slightly wider. You should understand that the position of any planet is measured through the center of the disc. So with the two luminaries it is possible for either of them to be marked at say 29°55' of a sign and the leading edge of the disc to be into the next sign, in this case by about 0°10'. That is when there is a true cusp position warranting a combined sign interpretation. Read my article about the sign cusps: http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/2018/10/26/the-sign-cusps/

However, it does not apply to planets all of which have less than 0°01' apparent width, so they are either in the next sign or not. If a planet is at 29°59' it is still in that sign and including the next sign in interpretation is not warranted.

What is warranted with 'cuspy' planets (and luminaries fully short of the next sign) is an acknolwedgement in the interpretation of an approach to change. The last couple degrees of a sign are 'cuspy', meaning while the interpretation is fully of the sign they are in, there is at least a subconscious awareness of the need for change in the expression of the energy of that planet. Even more so if that planet makes a conjunction or parallel to another body in the next sign. So the interpretation does not involve the next sign. That would especially be inappropriate for a retrograde planet moving back deeper into the sign it is already in, wouldn't it? Even if such a planet in direct motion transits into the next sign after birth, most of the time the movement continues into the sign after that, and the one after that. We don't include movement not yet made in the birth chart interpretation, but in the progressed chart only.

The added factor with 'cuspy' planets in the last two degrees (about 28-29°59') is anticipation of needed change in an aspect of self-expression or experience. This is a factor that highlights choice. So it adds and unpredictability as to how the person will choose to go. It is not merely scheduled that the person's Solar expression for example will go from being Taurean if cuspy directly to being Geminian in expression. At every ending is implied the choice of a new beginning of some kind. Astrologers who do not recognize choice points won't see this. Astrologers who do not properly recognize free will won't see it any choice points.

It does mark a pivotal moment of soul development, but it is presumptive of the astrologer to begin interpreting Venus at 29° Taurus as if it were in Gemini. I have that exact situation and I can tell you I do not have the values or expression of Venus in Gemini, nor do I want that. I understand the benefits of greater openness to relationship and social spontaneity, but the heady superficiality of Venus in Gemini does not appeal to me. What is put before me is how I carry forward the loyalty and steadiness I've developed into a fuller expression. It may or may not result in Venus being in another sign in my next lifetime's birth chart. That is part of my Soul's plan, just as it is with anyone else. It is not worked out by presumptive astrologers.

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Randall
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posted March 02, 2023 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

Thanks, Kannon.

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LittleWing
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posted March 02, 2023 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LittleWing     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have wondered this myself as my moon is 29.53 or something like that and I think 5 minutes would make it the next sign… I wonder this a lot

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Kannon McAfee
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posted March 03, 2023 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LittleWing:
I have wondered this myself as my moon is 29.53 or something like that and I think 5 minutes would make it the next sign… I wonder this a lot

To know, it is essential to get the most accurate Moon position. That requires selecting the 'topocentric' position which locates it by your birth location (topographical). The normal way of positioning the Moon used in all charts otherwise is from a line directed from the center of Earth. You want it from your birth location.

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posted March 11, 2023 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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