posted March 24, 2023 03:13 PM            

For reference, I've got North Node at 1° Aquarius and one of the Lilith asteroids also conjunct. Today I stumbled into a public humiliation and literal exile from what I *thought* was a safe community for autistic folk.

I would like to say I should have seen it coming, my chart is already full of Liltih and Pluto energy, but perhaps the sextile through Capricorn built up a false sense of security. This was a devastating experience of betrayal and exile from what was beginning to feel like a home.

I'll be honest that it's devastated my desire to be present online in any capacity, including astrological spaces- out of fear of the slightest miscommunication eradicating the allowance for community.

This is something I deeply hope is not an huge trend, but suspect it might well be in coming years.

Communities that perhaps were built on the idea of being a safe space may out themselves as truly founded on individual ego rather than a desire to provide space. This has been a lifelong lesson for myself to witness and experience. And only somewhat surprising at how quickly it kicked in.

Please know, I hope for the communities we have built- especially online. In the wake of the pandemic (which we know is still happening, just having been forcibly moved down to the subconscious) online spaces have become a sanctuary for so many. Be that disabled, the otucast- and yes, unfortunately that also meant the bigoted outcast, such as the fascist wave of nazi ideology trying to reinsert itself to modern day.

But (perhaps thankfully) the online community spaces are not translating well to physical life; the connections in the dark space (internet) are not as tangible and require more work than most realize in light space (ie sunlight, ie light particles and tangible reality- NOT light vs dark alignment).

posted March 24, 2023 07:04 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I can understand that. I've been there, in a way. Even when people were kind, when it was all sorted, it left that feeling with me. It affected others, not just me, but the person who caused the trouble, and wanted me and someone else ousted, just destroyed any real feeling of community for me. Of belonging.

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Yeah, I feel that too. I think there does need to be a big overhaul- perhaps in learning to blend the online/offline styles of community into a more healthy blend than it's current function (which tends to separate further- not all spaces, but definitely enough).

posted March 24, 2023 07:33 PM            

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Originally posted by implosions:
Yeah, I feel that too. I think there does need to be a big overhaul- perhaps in learning to blend the online/offline styles of community into a more healthy blend than it's current function (which tends to separate further- not all spaces, but definitely enough).

The mark it leaves after is deep and painful- community is part of survival of many species but especially humans. The wound feels like a mark on the ability to live at all, sometimes.

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posted May 03, 2023 12:00 PM            

Those expecting that Aquarius dominated communities will provide a safe emotional nurturing space are in for a big surprise, as that is not what Aquarius stands for. The feelings and emotions Aquarius accepts or promotes are the unusual ones.

NOTE: Of course, I am speaking in generalities. In astrology, we speak in generalities, unless we are addressing a particular chart. So please don't come at me with the I am Aquarius and I am the most emotional and nurturing person in the world... I am not looking at YOU and your individual chart. ok?

posted May 03, 2023 01:56 PM            

I see Plu-Aqu as the death of collectivism. Countries/companies and people most affected by group identity,will feel the most impacted with this transit. This includes "group think".

Anything that has a "team"(Aqua) aspect to it,will go under the Pluto gaze i.e. how "United" and together are you really? Is it just on a surface level or deeper than that?

When we are the ones who have long identified with a group or found our sense of identity in a team, that will also come under the penetrating gaze of Pluto. How similar are you really with the reference group you swear by?

Facebook, Tik-Tok,Instagram, Twitter, YouTube and the respective social influencers of each, will go through a dynamic shift, collapse or re-definition.

Let's think about the word "Social (Aqu) influencers (Plu)"really. Pluto will now examine if this "influence" you wield or others have on you , is of substance? If it isn't, it will not last.

NGO's that have long struggled to maintain their doors open, either collapse from pure financial exhaustion. Or they are revamped and renewed with a fresh sense of purpose, investors and think tanks etc.They thrive or die.

Social services come under the spotlight. Other government services that are "socially beneficial ", are also put under scrutiny. Are they really helpful? This especially when its associated employees/affiliates are embroiled in questionable ethical & legal issues that are publicized ans bring thw reputation of such organizations to disrepute.

The decentralisation of big organizations or a growing preference for smaller enterprises i.e big name labels lose their appeal as people look for clothes that are not about "who you are wearing" but how "unique " and "individualistic" you look.

For others;

*The breakdown of subconscious barriers keeping u from true self expression for Pisc Asc

*Networking alliances that may open opportunities to financial gains for Ari Asc.

* Inescapable changes that lead to Career reform for Tau Asc.

* Long distance Traveling/ Educational conquests that may lead to epiphanies & shifts in belief systems for Gem Asc.

*Crisis that leads to the discovery of a wealth of emotional resources for Can Asc.

*A key and influential Marriage/relationship start-up or breakup for Leo Asc.

*threatening health/ work issues that lead to lifestyle shifts for Vir Asc.

*Creative exploits that may prove profoundly revitalizing for Lib Asc.

*Release/resolve of burdensome generational trauma/home issues for Sco Asc

*Meaningful communication, learning and "fated" contacts/short trips for Sag Asc.

*The downsizing of stuff you have and going from what you own, to what you need for Cap Asc.

posted May 03, 2023 06:36 PM            

on my feed i'm starting to see a lot more racism, and all the other isms that i'm legit a little scared

the web is also targeting my insecurities ALOT more...

we've all heard of social bubbles online (algorithms put you in a certain social cricle) well we've been in certain social circles up until now and now they are starting to shift...ie. left will become right right will start seeing more left stuff on their feed etc...idk how it's going to play out and idk why they are shifting things now for what purpose...but i don't think it's good

aquarius is also friends and aquaintences ..and i think we will come accross people that challenge us, or are not good for us, or transform us, or something dark (that has to do wiht pluto)

also i was worried about what new things will start happening but what if it's just old things/ things that have always been a reality that start becoming exposed.

posted May 03, 2023 07:04 PM            

i'm also a member of an eating disorder forum and it just got bought out under the pretence that a lot of the content was enabling EDs instead of pushing for recovery (which is true) but a lot of people are worried about what is going to be allowed and what not and that they won't be able to share as freely as they could in the past etc.

another real life example i think is this post i posted asking people to post their charts...but i hope it doens't deter people from commenting..lol

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/244141.html

posted May 06, 2023 12:05 PM            

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Originally posted by ithinkimightbewrong:
what do you guys think of ChatGPT and aqua pluto

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Definitely a manifestation of Pluto in Aquarius...

posted May 06, 2023 03:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Definitely a manifestation of Pluto in Aquarius...

The rise of the machines. I signed up months ago. ChatGPT is addictive, exciting, but oh so fraught with serious potential dangers for humanity.

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i asked it what pluto in aquarius was suppose to bring and this is the response i got

Pluto in Aquarius represents a generation of people born between 2023 and 2044 who will experience Pluto's transformative influence in the sign of Aquarius. Pluto represents power, transformation, and change, while Aquarius represents progress, innovation, and technology.

As a result, the individuals born during this time are likely to be innovative, progressive, and forward-thinking in their approach to things around them. They will strive to bring revolutionary changes to society, be it in technology, politics, or social norms. They will seek to break down barriers and create a more inclusive and egalitarian world.

On the other hand, Pluto in Aquarius can also signify the potential for the misuse of technology and power by those in authority, leading to issues of control and manipulation. This can result in a dystopian society where individual freedom is curtailed.

posted May 06, 2023 04:41 PM            

I was very surprised that Musk thinks AI is the danger. If somebody who is close to it thinks it’s danger. I would also prefer to keep away from it.

Sounds pretty much Pluto is Aqua - AI takeover.🤖

posted May 06, 2023 08:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
I’ve heard there’s much controversy around ChatGPT As it’s driven by AI. And recently Elon Musk and other famous tech people signed a letter warning about the danger of AI.
http://www.cn n.com/2023/04/17/tech/elon-musk-ai-warning-tucker-carlson/index.html#:~:text=“AI%20is%20more%20dangerous%20than,in%20his%20interview%20with%20Tucker

I was very surprised that Musk thinks AI is the danger. If somebody who is close to it thinks it’s danger. I would also prefer to keep away from it.

Sounds pretty much Pluto is Aqua - AI takeover.🤖

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I think there is absolutely something to be said about AI being massively problematic -- and I hate to agree with Musk on anything.

But. Society is NOT prepared to deal with this fall out yet- we have not cleaned up our consumption and greed, our capitalistic abuse and power hungry slave culture.

This means that the MANY disadvantaged and marginalized communities that are actively working to make all these AI systems work (remember- there is NO SUCH THING as ethical wealth in current time, it does not exist and the only way for anyone to be monetarily wealthy is by abusing and using others to do the work for you (ie, slave culture being alive and well)).

AI is a system that, by man made hands, sweeps across the creative fields of the internet, absorbs and consumes the content with zero regard for copyright, ownership of creation, etc-- and then reproduces what we desire based on it's stolen goods. True machine learning does not exist how we want it to yet, and anyone who tells you otherwise is actively trying to sell you something.

I am all for AI becoming a working part of society at a later date- and I think this is the first scalding burn we are receiving as Pluto moves a few degrees into Aquarius, before grinding to a halt and backpedaling into Capricorn for one last free for all. I personally suspect that the true death knell of our capitalistic chokehold is when this will happen (and lbh, it already is).

It's like trying to slap a shiny coat of paint onto a defunct, unstable and radioactive vehicle (that may start with a T--) and praising it as this god-send we've all been waiting for to change/revolutionize our world. Again. Every single person who is loud about this premise is SELLING SOMETHING. Every single AI exists because thousands, if not more, marginalized groups of people are slaving away to keep them running. But no one wants to think deeper beyond the shiny surface of our new toy.

That is literally what Pluto is highlighting. Pluto by nature is about ripping away what we THINK is the casing of our depth, sometimes violently revealing how much deeper the rabbit hole goes. And waiting non-patiently for us to recognize the danger before we fall in and break our neck. It is not a joke, it is not a fun little toy to play with. It is a horror show disguised as magic. The real illusion break is realizing that all the 'magic' we think is happening, is algorithmic, man made and snake oil. Only pockets of real truly exist in the internet- and I'm not the one to name what and where that exists. Just know that it does- and it will be all that remains when this implodes in our faces. And it will! Collectively especially- individually is entirely up to each person.

We cannot let the marvel of AI's promises allow us to think we are prepared or even capable of sustaining such a futuristic thing until we clean up our **** first. You cannot build a single, damn thing on a pile of violent sh()t. We cannot pretend that it is safe and harmless while stubbornly refusing to look at the depth and effect of what the MAN MADE product truly is.

The 'god father' of AI has already said he is p-ss scared of where it is heading, and that is nothing to say of the many, MANY other people of color who have been trying to tell us for YEARS now, all while actively being silenced and having their jobs taken away for trying to warn us. It's not okay.

-R

posted May 07, 2023 12:48 PM            

It sounds like Jupiter - Pluto problem. Jupiter - with big ideas, high minded, but out of touch and don’t see details.
Pluto sees all those things and problems Jupiter is missing on, but too self-centered and power driven.

posted May 07, 2023 07:22 PM            

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Writers are on strike, which means that shows and movies are on hold.

Netflix apparently has actors signing on to voice AI roles, cutting the writers out entirely. I need to stop subscribing. They’re really awful.

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posted May 07, 2023 07:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

* Long distance Traveling/ Educational conquests that may lead to epiphanies & shifts in belief systems for Gem Asc.

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Thank you! I just had my first trip in 7 years as a single woman.

posted May 07, 2023 11:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
We don’t have any guarantee AI won’t be a part of slave culture and power driven. It has ability of logical thinking of humans without emotions and inhibitions.

Musk talked about developing more higher minded AI aiming toward searching universal truth.
This ChatGPT potentially could be a low minded thing as it’s communicating and learning from bunch of random people.

It sounds like Jupiter - Pluto problem. Jupiter - with big ideas, high minded, but out of touch and don’t see details.
Pluto sees all those things and problems Jupiter is missing on, but too self-centered and power driven.

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I wholly disagree with the idea that it’s not inherently created FROM slave culture. We are all actively living in it, that’s the point. All AI as we know it is still entirely hosted and kept up by marginalized groups of people- with a much smaller percentage of ‘famous faces’ in the tech industries. There is no guarantee we can get out of Slave culture with what we currently know of AI.

It is not as autonomous as we think- we can only have well known people claiming such because that is how they operate; absorbing other people’s hard work and claiming it as their own intelligence.

And yes I could see the coming-into square from Jupiter playing a role, but Jupiter also moves a lot faster than Pluto, so the enormity of the ignorance can’t sustain itself very long without consistently having to change face (signs). The square coming feels more like ignorance and ego pretending to have all the answers, play act at being godly creatures that have mastered a New Self (tale end of Aries)— only to realize the coming Taurus shift where reality comes back in and reminds us how little we actually have to call our own. Sure we have the concept nailed down, and are experimenting with nurturing AI in various ways (while ironically, becoming more and more violent toward our human children/new selves).