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posted April 08, 2023 08:02 PM            

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One astrologer a while ago told me I have a Plutonian chart but I see no Scorpio energy in my inner planets or anything like that. So what makes a chart "Plutonian" and how are Plutonian people supposed to be like?
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posted April 08, 2023 08:15 PM            

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That's a good question. I am Pluto dominant. But I have Scorpio Moon conjunct Pluto and Uranus and Neptune in the 8th house. And they make a lot of aspects in my chart.

I don't know if other people feel this way but I also feel like Pluto is related to Capricorn. I have Capricorn Neptune, Uranus, and Saturn. And 10th house Venus and Mars.

People do not pick up on my Scorpio energy right away. But people can pick up on my Capricorn energy a bit more. Scorpio will be like one of the last things people will guess.

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posted April 08, 2023 10:28 PM            

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Pluto squares your ascendant, squares your Venus, and sextiles your moon. Yes, I would say you have a Pluto-nian chart, in a sense that Pluto is contacting many personal and sensitive planets.

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posted April 09, 2023 01:55 AM            

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Pluto squares your ascendant, squares your Venus, and sextiles your moon. Yes, I would say you have a Pluto-nian chart, in a sense that Pluto is contacting many personal and sensitive planets.

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Just read about Pluto Square Ascendant....

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posted April 09, 2023 02:46 AM            

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I think because Pluto's also involving the angles. (IC/Pluto square Venus/ASC), it's significant.

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posted April 09, 2023 02:47 AM            

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Plutonian energy is definitely a big thing in your chart. It’s the apex planet of a pretty big fixed t-square. Your Leo stellium in H12 opposite Aquarius Saturn in H6 both squared by Scorpio Pluto in H3. Pluto is the focal point of the tension build up between your Sun/Mercury/Chiron/Venus and Saturn (with also the ASC/DSC axis in the mix so probably a lot of the obstacles you experience will be through the “other”).
Your Ego, communication style and what you enjoy are under pressure due to “karmic” lessons involving work, routine and health. These tensions could be expressed through the need to be in “control” when it comes to communication or your immediate surroundings.

https://www.astrologyuniversity.com/the-anatomy-of-a-t-square/
https://www.lynnkoiner.com/saturn-as-apex-of-a-fixed-t-square/
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/index.php?threads/defusing-the-apex-of-the-t-square.23065/

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posted April 09, 2023 03:39 AM            

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More general, having a lot of aspects between Pluto and personal planets or angles, especially hard aspects involving the big 3 (ASC, Sun and Moon), will make Pluto energy prominent in someone’s life and a “Plutonian”.

There are tests out there to check how prominent Pluto energy is in your chart.

https://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/how-strong-is-your-pluto-heres-the-score/

In my own chart:
Pluto conjunct ASC and square MC - 20
Pluto trine Mercury - 5
Pluto quincunx Jupiter&quintile Saturn (orb < 1 degree) - 4
Sun, Jupiter, Venus, Mercury in H8 - 11

That’s a total of 40 points. I also have a Scorpio north node, H8 south node, H8 stellium, chart ruler Venus in H8 and parallel Pluto. So I could add some bonus points for that as well. It’s definitely a theme in my life. Crisis, transformation and a deep desire for spiritual growth.

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posted April 09, 2023 09:39 AM            

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pluto conjunct moon 10
pluto square MC 10
pluto sextile Neptune 5
pluto in Scorpio 10
Scorpio Moon 5
Uranus 8th house 3
Neptune 8th house 3
Pluto square NN 2
Pluto square SN 2
I have Fortune in h8 2

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I can relate to not getting over things easily. Resentment was a huge issue in my last marriage. I'm too spiteful to ever be suicidal. I can relate to being a projection magnet to others. Now that I am almost 33 I try to nip it in the butt. Transforming? Yes! I am a better person/friend because of the hell I've been through. I do feel corrupt. I love psychology. I have been paid for my singing. Seeing revenge in a TV show or in my life is more satisfying than porn. But I am taking time to evaluate my revenge and control tendencies, because it's blocking the twin flame connection on both our ends. I feel like my life is just a serious of transitions and pheonixing. It can be pretty draining. I did not socialize this weekend much, and I think I needed to just vibe alone to heal and evaluate my own thoughts and feelings. Clean, and get some things done. I am also getting new responsibilities at work now. Sexuality? I have some nympho tendencies, BDSM tendencies, I had group sex for the first time this year. I have a healthy drive. I've experienced sexual abuse. I've had affairs. My mom's side is old money. I will have an inheritance. My ex husband made bank and was a dooms day prepper with his savings. I would of been financially set for life. I even was able to quit my job for a bit, because of it. You know you are doing the right thing when leaving it all behind sounds better than staying. My ex husband did become financially abusive the week before I left him. I did get free therapy because my husband was mostly emotionally abusive. I did not press charges though. I had no idea that was considered domestic violence these days. I also plan on cashing in a savings bond my older cousin got me when I was a baby. I am a preschooler teacher and it is very healing and rewarding. I do also get to use my interest in psychology. I've dabbled in the occult since my late teens...to the point where I can pretty much say I'm a witch. I do talk to my past on ancestors and feel their presence occasionally. They can give me signs within minutes.

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posted April 10, 2023 03:38 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
More general, having a lot of aspects between Pluto and personal planets or angles, especially hard aspects involving the big 3 (ASC, Sun and Moon), will make Pluto energy prominent in someone’s life and a “Plutonian”.

There are tests out there to check how prominent Pluto energy is in your chart.

https://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/how-strong-is-your-pluto-heres-the-score/

In my own chart:
Pluto conjunct ASC and square MC - 20
Pluto trine Mercury - 5
Pluto quincunx Jupiter&quintile Saturn (orb < 1 degree) - 4
Sun, Jupiter, Venus, Mercury in H8 - 11

That’s a total of 40 points. I also have a Scorpio north node, H8 south node, H8 stellium, chart ruler Venus in H8 and parallel Pluto. So I could add some bonus points for that as well. It’s definitely a theme in my life. Crisis, transformation and a deep desire for spiritual growth.

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I might have to do mines to see what it is all about.

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posted April 10, 2023 06:33 PM            

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There is a Plutonian tone to your personality because of the square of Asc to that planet. But I would not call it a Plutonian chart based on the circle wheel.

That would require Pluto being closer to Asc or MC than any other planet. See mine:
http://kannonmcafee.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/kannon-validated-birth-chart.gif

However, there are other reasons why your personality is more Plutonian than shown here. I cover that in my response to your other thread about your chart not fitting you.

Conventionally speaking, yours would be considered Venusian, but because it is square Pluto it colors it with Pluto more than if Pluto were just square the Asc. See?

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posted April 11, 2023 01:58 PM            

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Pluto Scorpio 8th here

quincunx my Sun 1st and Rising
square my Moon 11th
opposite my Venus 2nd
sesquisquare my Mars 3rd
sextile my Uranus and Neptune 9th
trine my NN 10th
trine my Chiron 4th
sextile my Midheaven

Pluto is very strong in my chart

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posted April 12, 2023 09:31 AM            

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Originally posted by HorusPower:
Pluto Scorpio 8th here

quincunx my Sun 1st and Rising
square my Moon 11th
opposite my Venus 2nd
sesquisquare my Mars 3rd
sextile my Uranus and Neptune 9th
trine my NN 10th
trine my Chiron 4th
sextile my Midheaven

Pluto is very strong in my chart

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sesquisquare and quincunx are minor aspects though. Your square to the moon is quite an intense aspect I'd say. But the rest is mostly harmonious. I always thought that the heavy aspects like square/conj/opp to Pluto make the person "plutonian".

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posted April 12, 2023 09:33 AM            

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I read somewher that a "true Plutonian" aspect is Pluto in the 4th. some astrologer said that, unfortunately I forgot their name.
I would say hard aspects, in my opinion esp. square and conj from Pluto to personal planets, especially moon and asc would definitely influence the person's personality with plutonian energy

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posted April 12, 2023 10:01 PM            

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My chart is Pluto/scorpio dominant. I think people misinterpret Pluto very often. It's not just death as in physical death. It's transformation, mastery, and taking everything negative and spinning into gold. For instance, my moon is conjunct Pluto by less than a degree applying. Every sense I have beyond the typical 5 is extremely heightened. This is a blessing and a curse as I feel anger, dread, and fear to the very core and soul of me. Because I feel so deeply, I've been forced to control my inner self (Pluto mastery) so that it does not take over me, sink or swim basically. I'm not talking about just being calm on the outside, I mean complete control over how I react to situations. I've had to dig so deep into my own ego and transform my way of thinking about my place in the world so that my ego does not rule me. I can let go of transgressions, and I almost never take anything personal. Scorpio is all about letting go of what does not suit you anymore. This is a lesson you must learn and Pluto will make sure you learn it and relearn it until you're done.

My chart, 3 planets in scorpio, 2 in 8th house. Pluto touching my moon and Mercury. Ruler of 8th house in scorpio, ruler of 12th house (where my sun, venus, and mercury are located) in scorpio.

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posted April 13, 2023 09:43 AM            

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^^^ Great insight into Pluto, Don2Angels. :up:

Keep in mind that your moon/Pluto conjunction is by degree, not by sign as you have Libra moon and Pluto Scorpio. Libra moon will behave differently than Scorpio moon, being air and not water, thus it can be more detached. And your rising sign is an air sign, which is also helpful.

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posted April 13, 2023 11:12 AM            

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^^^ Great insight into Pluto, Don2Angels. :up:

Keep in mind that your moon/Pluto conjunction is by degree, not by sign as you have Libra moon and Pluto Scorpio. Libra moon will behave differently than Scorpio moon, being air and not water, thus it can be more detached. And your rising sign is an air sign, which is also helpful.

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Absolutely, my moon being in airy libra is my saving grace. I'm able to separate myself very easily from painful situations or people. Doesn't mean I don't feel it, but I think Libra has helped me gain more control over myself.

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posted April 13, 2023 01:26 PM            

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Pluto in the 1st house

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posted April 14, 2023 08:15 PM            

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Super Pluto heavy here; big ol' sun stellium in Scorpio and the 8th house.

From experience, death is VERY noticeable, in all it's many forms. Be that emotional, relational, personal, egoic, literal... As I get older, I can always sense when a death is coming. I don't always know what kind, but usually the stronger the feeling, the more likely it is a literal death.

On a more mundane level ... I guess people's reactions to death and decay are going to play a huge role in how they react to me before even interacting. It's also unavoidable to confront your own personal deaths (often emotional/egoic) when knowing me long term. And I'm not exempt either! I'm constantly aware of how life and death are dancing together, and that can offset a lot of people. Sometimes myself too haha.

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posted April 15, 2023 12:39 PM            

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Looking at it in depth, 🤔 if a late degree Pluto brings more punch to it. Even an out of orb Pluto.

If a chart is Fire Pluto, maybe water maybe those are more volatile? Earth would be grounded and Air is questionable.

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posted April 15, 2023 07:25 PM            

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i would say a lot of pluto influence duh.

but anywayz i guess they said it cause pluto aspects a lot of planets.

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posted May 01, 2023 05:05 PM            

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Well you did name yourself Plutonianmenance after all, darling. You have some Scorpionic edge, but I definitely feel your Leo energy first and foremost.

I do personally identify with Plutonian energy. It's one of my favorites both in my own chart and the charts of others as well as in synastry. Love the depth & juicinesss for sure!

I have...

-Pluto 1H
-Venus 8H
-Pluto trine MC, Moon & Jupiter
-Pluto sextile Mars & Neptune
-Hades 8H conjunct Aura & Lilith

MOON is my most dominant planet overall though. 🌙 Venus, Mars & Pluto closely follow.

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