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Topic: [Personal opinion] Last degree Sagittarius 29.99🏹 is the most critical degree
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Aries Eagle Moderator Posts: 2315 From: 🔥Sol Invictus🔺 Registered: Jan 2013
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posted May 06, 2023 10:48 AM
*sine wave of the zodiac = ecliptic path of the sun While listening to this masterpiece of music Made of Fire and having transit Jupiter trine Uranus, I was observing the Sine Wave our Sun makes each solar year through the zodiac signs and seasons... I came to the conclusion that the last degree Sagittarius is one of the most important and powerful degrees... maybe in the whole zodiac? I was looking at how the Sun keeps going a downward path the Sine Wave after the Summer Solstice [Cancer], not until the last degree 29.999 of Sagittarius the Archer shoots its arrow high in the sky to reach the Sun at the right degree and STOPS the downward spiral of the Sun; causing Winter Solstice where it sits there for 3 days and then starts going up ❤.So my idea is the Archer keeps learning, educating himself and training his archery abilities until the moment of truth 29.999° and changes the course of history! I heard his arrows rarely miss its target. The sine wave of the zodiac and seasons (path of the sun) Archer image by: isidore Koliavras http://isikol.artstation.com/ Zodiac lightwave image: the astrology code http://www.astrologycode.org/new-page-4 ------------------ God Made The Zodiac, 'God will give me justice.' -Count of Monte Cristo IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 172230 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 06, 2023 11:33 PM
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Aries Eagle Moderator Posts: 2315 From: 🔥Sol Invictus🔺 Registered: Jan 2013
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posted May 08, 2023 12:46 AM
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Aries Eagle Moderator Posts: 2315 From: 🔥Sol Invictus🔺 Registered: Jan 2013
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posted May 08, 2023 06:29 PM
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10277 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 09, 2023 04:22 AM
^^^^^Did someone just call my name?🤣I have always thought that the idea of the zenith point 0 Cap,is founded from the natural zodiac starting at 0Aries. It is an important point only if you have angular placements in and around there i.e. Mc at 28 Sag- 3 Cap etc. But outside of that, I dont see its importance because where I live (in the southern hemisphere), the winter solstice is estimated to be around the 19th to 23rd of June(depending on the year). That's when Sun is at Gem 29Deg -03 Cancer. This point of the calendar marks the metaphorical concept of when "darkness beats the light". The night is longer in and around that time and is considered "bad" because "evil spirits" can thrive during this open window and "possess" someone etc. 12 midnight also earns the same reputation because of presumably being the point where night time is at its peak. And so it's clear to me that humans fear the dark and its perceived association with death. So they will naturally associate the night-time as "evil". I however see the night time as peaceful. Very. I work better at night. My energy levels are heightened(Sun-Nep conj). I do well in the day time too. But there is a certain level of clarity of thought that i get at night. Its hard to describe really. The only time I see the zenith point as important, is when I am looking at the Draconic. And by 'zenith', i am also including 0Lib, 0Ari and 0Can which form a natural challenging aspect with 0Cap. When planets are close to the above points in Draconic, they jump out and scream at you. This as if they form a secondary "Asc" or angulat point etc. I have Sun in Sag 29(the very position you speak of) . I was born Dec 21st. And as much as I would love to feel unique 🤣,I must add that if the Asc was in Pisces 28- Aries 03, then perhaps the Sun position would be elevated in my chart. But that would still be in as far as my chart is concerned. As everything is relative only to the centre of the attracting point(Me). And that's why I think angular points are so important in each natal configuration.Not necessarily the zenith point 29Sag for everyone living. IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle Moderator Posts: 2315 From: 🔥Sol Invictus🔺 Registered: Jan 2013
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posted May 09, 2023 05:37 PM
quote: I have always thought that the idea of the zenith point 0 Cap,is founded from the natural zodiac starting at 0Aries
Explain more what are trying to tell here. quote: It is an important point only if you have angular placements in and around there i.e. Mc at 28 Sag- 3 Cap etc.
This thread is not about "chart reading" its about the symbolic meaning of the last degree Sag in the zodiac sine wave. quote: But outside of that, I dont see its importance because where I live (in the southern hemisphere),
The zodiac and astrology originated, discovered and initiated in the northern himesphere; Sumaria and Babylon so the symbolic meaning of the very late degree of the Archer that he is the bringer of winter solstice. For the southern hemisphere of earth yes it's the opposite. quote: the winter solstice is estimated to be around the 19th to 23rd of June(depending on the year).
The dates of the equinoxes and solstice change progressively during the leap-year cycle, because the Gregorian calendar year is not commensurate with the period of the Earth's revolution about the Sun. In short, it's because the Gregorian calendar — which most of the world uses — is imperfect. The Gregorian calendar defines a year as 365 days, but it actually takes Earth about 365.25 days to make a complete circuit around the sun. That extra quarter of a day moves the equinoxes and solstices around from year to year. quote: 12 midnight also earns the same reputation because of presumably being the point where night time is at its peak. And so it's clear to me that humans fear the dark and its perceived association with death. So they will naturally associate the night-time as "evil".
Yes that is the norm, most people and cultures associate light with good and dark with bad. IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle Moderator Posts: 2315 From: 🔥Sol Invictus🔺 Registered: Jan 2013
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posted May 09, 2023 06:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
This image also shows why Capricorn is the climber of the zodiac because the Sun climbs up after Winter Solstice the lowest point for the Sun, this is also right for Aries; after Spring Equinox the start of the astrological year the Sun climbs up. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10277 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 10, 2023 11:15 AM
"This thread is not about "chart reading" its about the symbolic meaning of the last degree Sag in the zodiac sine wave.No comment🙏🏿 IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle Moderator Posts: 2315 From: 🔥Sol Invictus🔺 Registered: Jan 2013
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posted May 10, 2023 12:54 PM
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PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 877 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted May 10, 2023 01:24 PM
I would argue that the most critical points would be the zero degree of every Cardinal sign because it’s initiating energy. Also light and darkness cannot live without each other. Without death there is no rebirth. Summer solstice and Winter solstice are equally important. There is also the issue of perspective, the moment of winter solstice in the Northern hemisphere is the start of summer in the Southern hemisphere. So at the very least, 29 degrees Sagittarius and 29 degrees Gemini are equally critical.But I don’t think the most critical energy is in the mutable signs. Initiation of action happens in the Cardinal signs not in the last degree of the sign before. Mutable signs prepare for the new season but are still very much the old season. As far as I know, the last degree of a sign can be called a critical degree, but is mostly known as an anaretic degree. IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle Moderator Posts: 2315 From: 🔥Sol Invictus🔺 Registered: Jan 2013
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posted May 10, 2023 02:03 PM
Thank you PlutoWasHere for answering within the thread context."Mutable signs prepare for the new season but are still very much the old season." Thats the point, that's why I said 29.99 the very last degree is the initiation of the new season, in this case the Archer arrow is reaching to the Sun @ this anaretic degree.
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PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 877 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted May 10, 2023 04:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries Eagle: Thank you PlutoWasHere for answering within the thread context."Mutable signs prepare for the new season but are still very much the old season." Thats the point, that's why I said 29.99 the very last degree is the initiation of the new season, in this case the Archer arrow is reaching to the Sun @ this anaretic degree.
@Aries Eagle, thank you for your reply. In my opinion, the initiation starts at 0 degrees Capricorn, not at the last degree of Sagittarius. That last degree is the culmination of expectation but does not deliver the release until it’s actually in the next sign. When you speak of “critical” are you referring to the tension or the initiation? Because I agree that there’s a strong build up in tension of energy in the last degree. Like a pregnancy to the point of labor, but actual birth takes place in the next sign. IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle Moderator Posts: 2315 From: 🔥Sol Invictus🔺 Registered: Jan 2013
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posted May 10, 2023 05:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by PlutoWasHere: @Aries Eagle, thank you for your reply. In my opinion, the initiation starts at 0 degrees Capricorn, not at the last degree of Sagittarius. That last degree is the culmination of expectation but does not deliver the release until it’s actually in the next sign. When you speak of “critical” are you referring to the tension or the initiation? Because I agree that there’s a strong build up in tension of energy in the last degree. Like a pregnancy to the point of labor, but actual birth takes place in the next sign.
Initiation; especially for Sag because the arrow left the realm of Sagittarius its in the sky now, Capricorn does not start until it receives the shot from the Archer lol. So 0degree Cap is when the arrow hits the Sun. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 877 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted May 11, 2023 01:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries Eagle: Initiation; especially for Sag because the arrow left the realm of Sagittarius its in the sky now, Capricorn does not start until it receives the shot from the Archer lol. So 0degree Cap is when the arrow hits the Sun.
In that case, I agree to disagree. Sagittarius is symbolized by the arrow drawn on the bowstring, not the release. Sagittarius is about endless possibilities, adventures and dreaming big. Not focus and actually hitting the target. The energy of the release and achieving what you aim for is in Capricorn. IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle Moderator Posts: 2315 From: 🔥Sol Invictus🔺 Registered: Jan 2013
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posted May 13, 2023 07:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by PlutoWasHere: In that case, I agree to disagree. Sagittarius is symbolized by the arrow drawn on the bowstring, not the release. Sagittarius is about endless possibilities, adventures and dreaming big. Not focus and actually hitting the target. The energy of the release and achieving what you aim for is in Capricorn.
After looking at the ecliptic path of the sun... It just seemed to me that the archer is trying to stop the downward spiral of the sun with his arrows. Maybe it's not the case. I've read on some site that it's aiming for Antares star, but I still feel he is aiming for the sun is more plausible. "who has drawn his bow. His arrow is pointing at Antares, the bright red heart of Scorpius, the scorpion. The archer is avenging Orion, who was slain by the scorpion's sting." http://stardate.org/astro-guide/sagittarius-archer-0 IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle Moderator Posts: 2315 From: 🔥Sol Invictus🔺 Registered: Jan 2013
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posted May 15, 2023 06:39 PM
Ok couldn't the last arrow hits at 29.999999°Sag and the next point after that is zenith 0°Cap? Just brainstormingIP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 5082 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 15, 2023 07:15 PM
Did you generate that image?What this 'sine wave' describes is declination. The midline is the (celestial) equator through the zodiac. The peaks are extremes of declination (23°27') and the places where the wave crosses the midline are 0°. I don't know if the last degree of Sagittarius should be considered the most critical degree, but I follow your thinking and it is interesting. What story would you tell for the last degree of Gemini? ------------------ The Declcinations Guy Soul Stars Astrology Gemstone Readings for energy balance and healing Expert birth chart rectification We were born for these times. We agreed to be here. IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle Moderator Posts: 2315 From: 🔥Sol Invictus🔺 Registered: Jan 2013
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posted May 15, 2023 09:00 PM
Hey Kannon happy to see you in the thread.I added the source of images in the first post. quote: What this 'sine wave' describes is declination. The midline is the (celestial) equator through the zodiac. The peaks are extremes of declination (23°27') and the places where the wave crosses the midline are 0°.
That is very helpful. quote: but I follow your thinking and it is interesting.
Thank you quote: What story would you tell for the last degree of Gemini?
Because Mutable signs have 2 phases the phase of the season they first started with and prepare for the new season with the next coming Cardinal sign. I see Gemini the Twins as a very happy two humans in Spring for most of the first phase... Until something goes wrong which activated the Fall of the Twins... I've read somewhere that the Cancer Capricorn axis is the tree of knowledge! So Gemini started with care-free happy twins and Sagittarius as a serious student and a seeker for truth. Opposite to Gemini... Last degree Sagittarius is a great feat while last degree Gemini is the fall.
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 642 From: us Registered: Sep 2018
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posted May 18, 2023 05:25 PM
A solar eclipse on that degree, which is also the exact degree of the black hole, is the same day the ages change sign and a pole shift happens which causes the end of the world. Its happening in 194 years.However l'm not impressed with the sign, i think is negative. But its also fun to note that the black hole Sagittarius A's cycles start at 0 degrees Capricorn every 26,925 years. It takes 72 years to switch one degree in the zodiac. We only have two degrees left before the cycle is complete. You can confirm this by going to astro.com and selecting galactic center to see where it currently is. Its currently at 26 sagittarius I believe. The eclipse happens at 29 Sagittarius in 2215. You know what else is very interesting is that the pyramids center, is exactly 2 inches off of true north. What happens with true north? solar and lunar eclipses. The pyramids are a clock warning us of the date of the end of the world. Those two inches will be gone in 2215 and it will be conjunct true north exactly and the eclipse with the black hole will be exact. IP: Logged |
GoldenSword Newflake Posts: 11 From: 🔺 Registered: May 2023
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posted May 20, 2023 10:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: A solar eclipse on that degree, which is also the exact degree of the black hole, is the same day the ages change sign and a pole shift happens which causes the end of the world. Its happening in 194 years.However l'm not impressed with the sign, i think is negative. But its also fun to note that the black hole Sagittarius A's cycles start at 0 degrees Capricorn every 26,925 years. It takes 72 years to switch one degree in the zodiac. We only have two degrees left before the cycle is complete. You can confirm this by going to astro.com and selecting galactic center to see where it currently is. Its currently at 26 sagittarius I believe. The eclipse happens at 29 Sagittarius in 2215. You know what else is very interesting is that the pyramids center, is exactly 2 inches off of true north. What happens with true north? solar and lunar eclipses. The pyramids are a clock warning us of the date of the end of the world. Those two inches will be gone in 2215 and it will be conjunct true north exactly and the eclipse with the black hole will be exact.
Whoa, that is a rich post with many information. I'll get back to it Thank you very much Athens IP: Logged |
GoldenSword Newflake Posts: 11 From: 🔺 Registered: May 2023
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posted May 21, 2023 04:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: A solar eclipse on that degree, which is also the exact degree of the black hole, is the same day the ages change sign and a pole shift happens which causes the end of the world. Its happening in 194 years.However l'm not impressed with the sign, i think is negative. But its also fun to note that the black hole Sagittarius A's cycles start at 0 degrees Capricorn every 26,925 years. It takes 72 years to switch one degree in the zodiac. We only have two degrees left before the cycle is complete. You can confirm this by going to astro.com and selecting galactic center to see where it currently is. Its currently at 26 sagittarius I believe. The eclipse happens at 29 Sagittarius in 2215. You know what else is very interesting is that the pyramids center, is exactly 2 inches off of true north. What happens with true north? solar and lunar eclipses. The pyramids are a clock warning us of the date of the end of the world. Those two inches will be gone in 2215 and it will be conjunct true north exactly and the eclipse with the black hole will be exact.
That's why I edited my last post about comparing last-degree Gemini and last-degree Sagittarius, I said the latter is a great feat and auspicious I removed auspicious, because I remembered a post by Mirage29 stating that Aquarius is the Age of Man so I thought that Aquarius is our auspicious sign as humans. So last degree Sagittarius something great will happen, what is it? I don't know. I still didn't digest all the great information you posted about the pyramid's, true north and being a clock to warn us. That deserves exploring and reading about definitely. Thank you again, Athene IP: Logged |