posted May 08, 2023 09:25 AM            

It is often too much for me to handle a person with Sag moon, sun or AC. I would rank Sag mars, merc and jupiter as the next annoying ones lol.

posted May 08, 2023 02:40 PM            

I have Sagittarius ASC and Mars. My husband has Sagittarius Moon.

After I got to know him, looked into his natal chart and found his moon is in the same sign as my ASC and Mars, I thought (since I really like the positive side of Sagittarius) his Sagittarius energy would be in the same channel as my Sagittarius energy. Well, WRONG.

I was surprised knowing how he has this inappropriate joke that makes me think that I would never do it but he thinks it's funny and there are also some people who laugh with him, gambling behavior, LOUD laughing (LOUD talking too when he gets angry), having no direction/plan in life (is it called as a Happy-Go-Lucky attitude?), messy/disorganized life, not really interested in academic study/education, overly optimistic where he isn't/less prepared for the worst, too blunt where he is quite careless to whom he is talking to. Are those annoying for me? YES, for sure.

I am channeling my Sagittarius with studying/education, exploring/travelling, religion/spirituality, being realistic with life (know how to have fun time, know how to get a work done), I'm not interested to do any gamble, I will not say I am blunt (because I'm always aware to whom I am talking to) but totally honest all of my life (it's a different communication style), and I'm not a type who laugh with mouth wide open or a loud laugh, overall, I am the opposite of his Sagittarius side.

I wonder, why our Sagittarius side can be so different?

Then I have a chance to see where he came from (big family) from a close, his family dynamic and interaction: what kind of life values they have, their communication style (how they talk to each other and what kind of jokes that they throw to each other), how the parents teach the do and don't/good and bad attitude, what kind of environment they let in to influence the family, etc, and it's totally the opposite of how and what kind of environment I was raised.

Sagittarius, just like Gemini, Virgo and Pisces, The Mutable group, easily change to what kind of environment or people they are surround themselves with.

posted May 08, 2023 03:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
What do you mean by annoying? I know somebody who cannot stand loud people and who don’t behave appropriately (like eating loud, don’t care about people around ). It sounded like Saggy type was implied there.
I find them funny and entertaining before I see they accept only their own weird behavior, but not that accepting to the others.

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And yes, they can be loud sometimes, and I don't mind that either as long as I don't have to deal with that on a constant basis.

I think what I meant when I threw in the word "annoying" was: too much, too fidgety, too complaining sometimes. And I think they are secretly attention seekers too and sometimes very jealous, and with these two qualities they can come off as drama-seeking.

I know many people are offended by sags' brutal honesty, but I for one like it. I even appreciate their "giving advice/opinion when nobody asked" quality. Because as a pisces and water heavy person I need their broad perspective and honestly to bring me back to the real world sometimes.

But damn they're too much for me haha

posted May 08, 2023 03:29 PM            

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Originally posted by ithinkimightbewrong:
..and then she gets mad at me and says i don't care

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This in my observation is typical saggy behavior.

They're very good natured so they usually want the best for everyone.

posted May 08, 2023 03:36 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
It depends on how they were raised, early childhood environment, especially how their parents/families communicate with each other and what kind of life values they get growing up.

I have Sagittarius ASC and Mars. My husband has Sagittarius Moon.

After I got to know him, looked into his natal chart and found his moon is in the same sign as my ASC and Mars, I thought (since I really like the positive side of Sagittarius) his Sagittarius energy would be in the same channel as my Sagittarius energy. Well, WRONG.

I was surprised knowing how he has this inappropriate joke that makes me think that I would never do it but he thinks it's funny and there are also some people who laugh with him, gambling behavior, LOUD laughing (LOUD talking too when he gets angry), having no direction/plan in life (is it called as a Happy-Go-Lucky attitude?), messy/disorganized life, not really interested in academic study/education, overly optimistic where he isn't/less prepared for the worst, too blunt where he is quite careless to whom he is talking to. Are those annoying for me? YES, for sure.

I am channeling my Sagittarius with studying/education, exploring/travelling, religion/spirituality, being realistic with life (know how to have fun time, know how to get a work done), I'm not interested to do any gamble, I will not say I am blunt (because I'm always aware to whom I am talking to) but totally honest all of my life (it's a different communication style), and I'm not a type who laugh with mouth wide open or a loud laugh, overall, I am the opposite of his Sagittarius side.

I wonder, why our Sagittarius side can be so different?

Then I have a chance to see where he came from (big family) from a close, his family dynamic and interaction: what kind of life values they have, their communication style (how they talk to each other and what kind of jokes that they throw to each other), how the parents teach the do and don't/good and bad attitude, what kind of environment they let in to influence the family, etc, and it's totally the opposite of how and what kind of environment I was raised.

Sagittarius, just like Gemini, Virgo and Pisces, The Mutable group, easily change to what kind of environment or people they are surround themselves with.

And you may look up into the square or opposition anywhere between your chart and the other person as this is often create the feel of "most annoyed" (or inevitable attraction).

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This is a very precise take on the different sides of the Sagittarius energy and I agree with you on most parts.

Although I think no matter what the upbringing, people can manifest and lean into different sides of their astrological energies. Because that is the potential we are born with.

To answer your question, sags make squares to my moon, and my chart is empty in sag, virgo and gemini. But the thing is my chart is very scattered and most signs make an least one square or apposition to something in my chart. But I feel like sag energy is the only one I can't handle in the long run.

posted May 08, 2023 09:07 PM            

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Originally posted by 93nov:
Coming from someone with a sag mars, I can definitely understand why you would say that lol. A lot of people with sag energy are obnoxious and condescending or at least we come off that way. Sagittarius men seem to be the worst. Their ego is magnified with this energy. My Scorpio stellium in the 6H won’t let me get too out of control, though.

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posted May 09, 2023 03:46 AM            

I find my fellow Sag friend magnifies or amplifies how i feel. So in essence, its not even about how he is. But how I feel.

When "off", his rambunctious energy rubs me up the wrong way.I get very irritated with him. But when feeling marvelous, i find his energy supportive and fun. We have a blast.

But I (admittedly) have Mars-Moon-Merc T-square. I can be very irritable (regardless). So sometimes excitable energy could exacerbate that mix with unpredictable results.

I need time by myself to stabilize my emotions. I do workouts in the morning to deal with the tense energy Mars produces in my body(Mars is part of the T-square alignment and rules my Asc).

You mentioned that you have Taurus energy? I wonder if you and your Sag relatives/ acquaintances have similar natal aspects?

My sister has Mars on her Sun/Moon midpoint. We tend to agitate each other at times. This because I have Mars active too in my chart.

She also has Moon/Mercury midpoint conj Mars. Venus/Mars midpoint is conjunct Sun. Seldom is she ever neutral about anything. There is always passion.

With me, Moon/Merc midpoint is conj Mars. Venus/Mars, Mars/Sat midpoint is conj Pluto. I am also quite passionate about things (admittedly). But that Plu on my Ven/Mars,Mars/Sat midpoint is teaching me more restraint.

I have had things I felt "strongly" about, disproved. And this happens a lot with Pluto on a planet. What you thought you knew gets destroyed. And that can humble you. A LOT.

My other sister(Sco Sun) is a lot less passionate. Her Moon/Sun midpoint is conj Uranus. She also has Neptune conj the midpoint (although wider). More prone to just disengage from emotional extremes.

posted May 09, 2023 12:20 PM            

My BFF at work is a Sag stellium man and he indeed has a ridiculous ego and is super obnoxious! . But he also is playful and fun and in the end wants the best for everyone. Huge martyr complex though.

posted May 09, 2023 05:45 PM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:

He has Sag Sun, Moon, Mercury, Saturn and Uranus altogether there.

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My God he must be a fireball! Although Saturn tones things down a notch.

posted May 09, 2023 05:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
As a Sag stellium (including Sun) , I can understand your reservations 🤣. But I think its just an energu fit really. Not so much strictly the Zodiac placement. As planetary aspect do mitigate things A LOT.

I find my fellow Sag friend magnifies or amplifies how i feel. So in essence, its not even about how he is. But how I feel.

When "off", his rambunctious energy rubs me up the wrong way.I get very irritated with him. But when feeling marvelous, i find his energy supportive and fun. We have a blast.

But I (admittedly) have Mars-Moon-Merc T-square. I can be very irritable (regardless). So sometimes excitable energy could exacerbate that mix with unpredictable results.

I need time by myself to stabilize my emotions. I do workouts in the morning to deal with the tense energy Mars produces in my body(Mars is part of the T-square alignment and rules my Asc).

You mentioned that you have Taurus energy? I wonder if you and your Sag relatives/ acquaintances have similar natal aspects?

My sister has Mars on her Sun/Moon midpoint. We tend to agitate each other at times. This because I have Mars active too in my chart.

She also has Moon/Mercury midpoint conj Mars. Venus/Mars midpoint is conjunct Sun. Seldom is she ever neutral about anything. There is always passion.

With me, Moon/Merc midpoint is conj Mars. Venus/Mars, Mars/Sat midpoint is conj Pluto. I am also quite passionate about things (admittedly). But that Plu on my Ven/Mars,Mars/Sat midpoint is teaching me more restraint.

I have had things I felt "strongly" about, disproved. And this happens a lot with Pluto on a planet. What you thought you knew gets destroyed. And that can humble you. A LOT.

My other sister(Sco Sun) is a lot less passionate. Her Moon/Sun midpoint is conj Uranus. She also has Neptune conj the midpoint (although wider). More prone to just disengage from emotional extremes.

Aspects and midpoints count. That's my experience. 👌🏿

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Lately I'm too lazy to even check my basic synastry with my crushes which used to be a favorite past-time for my taurus side, forget about calculating all the midpoints

posted May 09, 2023 11:58 PM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
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Although I think no matter what the upbringing, people can manifest and lean into different sides of their astrological energies. Because that is the potential we are born with.

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People can manifest and lean into different sides of their astrological energies, that's true.

But what you learn from early childhood and what is your family values, shape some part of you that may put your astrological energies into where it gets shaped.

A simple example:

I didn't know how loud I was as a kid until I was the only one among my siblings who got a "can you not be too loud?" (my siblings have Libra/Taurus/Capricorn mix in their chart, so they are mostly calm) especially when I got so excited. Sagittarius energy LOVES anything FUN. But my Mother was quite a strict that my childhood felt like a lot of rules, very religious, structured, and we couldn't get too much fun as everything felt like responsibility. My Mother also was a very socially aware person, so we were taught how to appropriately behave socially and she disliked any inappropriate/messy/unholy attitude, like she believed we should not fight but always be kind to everyone and gave respect (yeah, no wonder why some of us got in to a depression for awhile when realizing that some people are really that bad and we should "roar" sometimes to put them in their place). Growing up, it shapes some part of me and those values are still in the back of my mind so it is very hard for me to go in the bad directions (bad energy of my astrological) and how my parents consistently act like what they have taught us until now, make us as a kid living by an example, is true. That's why I believe our family/early childhood has some contribution to our astrological energies.

My husband early childhood? The opposite of mine and I have learned this after going in search on how different our Sagittarius energy is and why he keeps coming back to bad habits of his astrological energies, especially his Sagittarius energy (I know this energy good and bad because I have one).

posted May 10, 2023 07:41 PM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
My God he must be a fireball! Although Saturn tones things down a notch.

I think when Sags are relaxed, quiet and goofy, they're pretty attractive, it is when they give in to triggers that they turn into these obnoxious monsters who have the ability to embarrass everyone associated with them

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