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charlie
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posted May 24, 2023 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can someone give a better, and less gloomy, description of what this transit entails? 4 degrees applying now with tPluto still in 5H. When exact he'll be in 6H and natal Saturn in 12H.

In progressed chart he's currently in 4H with natal Saturn in 11H.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted May 24, 2023 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How's your health looking? Are you getting more responsibility at work?

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charlie
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posted May 25, 2023 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
How's your health looking? Are you getting more responsibility at work?

Health is ok but have aches and pains because I work ALOT (self employed).

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posted May 25, 2023 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
Health is ok but have aches and pains because I work ALOT (self employed).

Yeah, something will give on that end. There could be a point that you reach where you decide to take a break from working so much. Or relook at what you are really working for? Is it worth it? Why do you you have to do so much to get it? Etc.

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posted May 25, 2023 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Charlie, I think I’m a little bit older than you because I have my Saturn in late Cancer and we’re both Libra Pluto generation. I’ve had this transit and with Pluto retrograde it is coming into orb again. Saturn is my 4th house ruler and I’m feeling it in my bones. Right now, it’s very unsettling. I know it’s a huge opportunity for growth but it’s painful. In Hellenistic astrology, the 4th house is also known as the underworld. And I feel like I’m wrestling with the ghosts from my past, the demons of my childhood.

What does Saturn represent in your chart? What aspects does it make and what house does it rule? Do you have any kind of ideas how the karmic lessons of Saturn are a part of your chart? It’s probably very significant that it’s in the 12th house.

https://advanced-astrology.com/saturn-in-twelfth-house

Saturn is the planet of hard work and responsibilities while the 12th house is connected to our subconscious. Are you dealing with issues in your subconscious through hard work? Is taking responsibility and getting things done a type of escapism for you? Chances are that this way of handling subconscious issues will be tested by crises. And that what doesn’t work anymore will need to be transformed.

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charlie
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posted May 25, 2023 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Hi Charlie, I think I’m a little bit older than you because I have my Saturn in late Cancer and we’re both Libra Pluto generation. I’ve had this transit and with Pluto retrograde it is coming into orb again. Saturn is my 4th house ruler and I’m feeling it in my bones. Right now, it’s very unsettling. I know it’s a huge opportunity for growth but it’s painful. In Hellenistic astrology, the 4th house is also known as the underworld. And I feel like I’m wrestling with the ghosts from my past, the demons of my childhood.

What does Saturn represent in your chart? What aspects does it make and what house does it rule? Do you have any kind of ideas how the karmic lessons of Saturn are a part of your chart? It’s probably very significant that it’s in the 12th house.

https://advanced-astrology.com/saturn-in-twelfth-house

Saturn is the planet of hard work and responsibilities while the 12th house is connected to our subconscious. Are you dealing with issues in your subconscious through hard work? Is taking responsibility and getting things done a type of escapism for you? Chances are that this way of handling subconscious issues will be tested by crises. And that what doesn’t work anymore will need to be transformed.


Saturn rules my 5H with my Cap Moon there, smack opposite Leo Saturn. I do escape by working extremely hard , to the point I am having issues with muscles and joints. I can’t deal with personal things and problems and run from them like it’s the plague. Status Quo is my game and anything below or above makes me very anxious.

I am used to Pluto since he’s square Moon, Sun and Mercury and obviously Saturn.

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posted May 25, 2023 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
Saturn rules my 5H with my Cap Moon there, smack opposite Leo Saturn. I do escape by working extremely hard , to the point I am having issues with muscles and joints. I can’t deal with personal things and problems and run from them like it’s the plague. Status Quo is my game and anything below or above makes me very anxious.

I am used to Pluto since he’s square Moon, Sun and Mercury and obviously Saturn.


A Capricorn Moon will also make you inclined to work hard to create a sense of stability. Are you a Virgo Rising? That would be even more earth and would give a practical attitude towards the direct environment.

Pluto has a way of making the things we would rather not deal with, come to the surface. When Pluto is transiting your 6th house it could lead to crises related to health issues. Saturn is also your 6th house ruler (Saturn is the ancient ruler of Aquarius)? With a 5th house connection it could indicate a loss of energy, drive or self expression, Leo and Sun are traditionally associated with the 5th house. You might feel ignored or unappreciated during this period.

How has transit Pluto been treating your Capricorn Moon? Saturn also rules your Moon, so any loose ends from that earlier transit might come back for resolution.

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posted May 27, 2023 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The transit urges a rebalancing between power and control, internal vs external standards and forces. The opposition is a relational dynamic, which means that these lessons may come through another key person here and there.

You are challenged by Pluto to reform your working habits so as to avoid adding to mental strain, anxiety, and insecurity.

If you see yourself in the place of transiting Pluto as reformer who wants empowerment (from within) then you can more easily cooperate with the process. Otherwise, the stronger tendencies of natal Saturn (fear, inhibition, etc) may keep you in habits that are not good for you going forward.

Pluto asks that you consider more deeply how to take care of your work-life balance so that you don't misuse its push as ambition for an external world result.

It is about overcoming your limitations, but you'll need some help at times. It's not the optimistic 'we shall overcome', but about resetting the terms in ways that benefit your well being and reset your goals on that rather than just external world results.

There is a certain amount of willingness to surrender necessary to the process. You will likely be urged to surrender those material things that are acting as an obstruction to moving forward because you are clinging to them for subconscious, fearful reasons. That may apply to certain goals and objectives as well. You may have to let go of some plans or goals because they are not a true reflection of who you are, therefore they are a drain on your internal and spiritual resources. So let go of what you see that you do not need that is weighing you down.

There is the challenge of making good use of limited resources. This is one of the transits in which we learn our actual limitations and how to get help once it is obviously needed. Make strategic changes in your life. If something isn't working for you, then change it!

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