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Topic: 2024 U.S. presidential election prediction
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edenhardwicke Knowflake Posts: 99 From: Registered: Oct 2022
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posted June 23, 2023 08:29 PM
I am predicting that Dr. Cornel West will win the U.S. presidential election in 2024. My reasoning is as follows:- He has a very powerful grand air trine in his natal chart - Pluto is entering Aquarius - The most recent Saturn/Jupiter conjunction happened at the beginning of Aquarius - In October 2024, before the election and during the debates, transiting Jupiter will be 1 degree away from a conjunction with his natal Mars/Mercury conjunction in Gemini - On inauguration day in 2025, transiting Jupiter will be conjunct his natal Sun at 7 degrees Gemini I think that people will write him off, not treat his candidacy or campaign seriously (the way that Trump's campaign was treated as a joke), but that his message will resonate with people. I think that working class Americans are ready for a change, and even though people don't necessarily agree on what that change should look like, pretty much nobody wants the status quo to continue.
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 24719 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2023 10:13 PM
I'll have to look him up. I don't think I've heard of him.I've seen people talking about spoilers, people running as a third party. RFK Jr. is one (not a fan). Randall mentioned Manchin (also not a fan). IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 173792 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2023 10:18 PM
RFK isn’t running third party. He wants to challenge Biden for the Dem nomination. He’s currently got 21 percent of the Dem vote according to several polls. West is the Green Party nominee.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 24719 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2023 10:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: RFK isn’t running third party. He wants to challenge Biden for the Dem nomination. He’s currently got 21 percent of the Dem vote according to several polls. West is the Green Party nominee.
RFK isn't going to get the Dem nomination. IP: Logged |
edenhardwicke Knowflake Posts: 99 From: Registered: Oct 2022
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posted June 24, 2023 12:42 PM
My best guess is that Biden, DeSantis, and West will be on the debate stage in the fall. I have no idea why I think West will be able to get there (other than the astrological reasons), because that prediction defies logic in a lot of ways, but I just do. We'll see what happens!Edited to add: In my Solar Return chart for this year I have Sun, Mercury, and Neptune conjunct at 25 Pisces in the 8th house. So maybe that's one reason I'm making these kinds of predictions lately. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 173792 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2023 01:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: RFK isn't going to get the Dem nomination.
I never said he would. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 173792 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2023 01:54 PM
Biden isn't going to be debating anyone. I doubt he will be the nominee. I predict Gavin Newsome will. And DeSantis also will not be the nominee.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 24719 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2023 03:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Biden isn't going to be debating anyone. I doubt he will be the nominee. I predict Gavin Newsome will. And DeSantis also will not be the nominee.
I wouldn't mind Gavin, but so far, Biden is going to be the nominee. Who will it be for the republicans, if trump isn't available? IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 173792 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2023 05:17 PM
Biden has too much baggage now. The majority of Dems want someone else. Nothing short of death will stop President Trump from winning the nomination.IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 5104 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 24, 2023 07:24 PM
How good his chances are depends on who else is running and whether other candidates are better positioned/qualified.I love Dr. Cornel West and my politics aligns closely with his — but he will not come anywhere close to winning the presidential election. I hope he has success and gets into the debates, but even if he accomplishes that, he will not win. He's an academic candidate who influences politics and public thinking, and I think his influence may be increasing — but he's not the kind of candidate that gets the job. There are one or both of two basic practical factors that are required for someone to be a viable candidate for actually winning the White House: 1) If not an established political operator they need to be well known enough or well enough supported by big money backers to gain notoriety quickly enough in the campaign. 2) And/or they need the support of an established political party with enough voter/financial support to push the person into notoriety quickly enough. Dr. West does not fit either basic qualifier. He is not well known, being an academic, and too leftist to draw big funding support. His political party, the People's Party, is new (est. 2016) with few members so far. It is without a big national personality to represent and grow it. Dr. West may act as that figure now and help bring more attention to it, but it will not be enough for the 2024 election. They have to first get the party on the ballot in all 50 states. As of now they are on the ballot only in 1 — Flordia. 49 states to go. I don't even believe they will get in all 50 states. The attempt to both establish a party in popularity AND run a presidential campaign is too much to accomplish in such a short period of time. Astrologically ... There are patterns in the birth charts of many presidents of the United States: - The birth chart overall needs to show affinity for being a single, buck-stops-here executive. - Moon in earth sign is most common. - Placements in cardinal signs are very common as they hold the most initiative in general. - Verified (rectified/validated) angles (Asc / MC) in the cardinal signs or Sagittarius rising. - Mercury very often shows strong aspects like to Mars or Pluto, because speechifying and decisiveness is so necessary to campaigning and the job. - The birth chart needs major key synastry connections to the US (Sibly) birth chart showing reception by the public. The factors you mentioned just aren't enough or specific enough. You really need a valid birth chart for him to assess it. The other problem for Cornel is that he entered the race after Robert F. Kennedy Jr had entered and gained quick backing in the polls http://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2023/06/14/robert-f-kennedy-jr-tops-biden-trump-in-new-favorability-poll/?sh=64316fdc4395. RFK Jr is also an anti-establishment, anti-corporate, ecological, peace-oriented/anti-war candidate who overlaps with Cornel's politics significantly, with recognition due to his legal work (victories over Monsanto and many other corporate polluters), environmentalism (establishing lawyer of Riverkeeper), and his legacy Democratic party family name.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 173792 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2023 07:52 PM
Thanks, Kannon. I heard someone mention him being in the Green Party during an interview with West, and he didn’t correct her. I concur; if he is leading the People’s Party, his chances are nil.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 24719 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2023 09:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Biden has too much baggage now. The majority of Dems want someone else. Nothing short of death will stop President Trump from winning the nomination.
And Trump doesn't have baggage? Former president Trump, that is. I'd like to hear who you think would be the candidate, if Trump is in jail. But, of course, the DOJ that you claim is going after Biden's political enemies, has been dragging its feet over charging the people who encouraged the January 6th defendants. He potentially has more charges coming from Georgia. I knew you wouldn't even consider another candidate. RFK is another rich guy, and I don't see him relocating to the middle of nowhere, living off the grid, to get away from anything like 5G. He claims things like wifi are causing cancer. What caused it before all of this? He used to be an environmentalist, and has backtracked since Bannon got hold of him. He's just another grifter. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 173792 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2023 09:58 PM
You and I have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the term “baggage” means. But I think you know what I mean. I’m trying to keep this thread about the astrology, though. Cell towers located near schools are causing childhood leukemia.IP: Logged |
Dons2angelss Knowflake Posts: 1184 From: Virginia, US Registered: Jan 2019
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posted June 28, 2023 12:22 PM
I'm a registered independent and I pay close attention to the candidates running. My natal has many oppositions so I'm always looking to blanace out. That being said, I can, with about 99% certainty, say I will be voting red across the board next year (obviously I'll still weigh both candidates).Personally, I like to use my vote as a weight. Think of a scale, red on one side, blue on the other. Blue has way too much weight recently (in my opinion) and we need to balance that out. I'm always thinking in terms of moves and counter moves and never taking a permanent stance on either side. My chart reflects this well. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 2218 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted June 28, 2023 02:37 PM
Hilary 🤪 It’s seriously hilarious how 8 years ago she was portrayed as the evil. And her shady history would be nothing comparing to nowadays politics. I wasn’t her supporter then, but when you look at the current selection…IP: Logged |