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Topic: Super Scorpio Stellium Man dishonest or just chaotic?
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ScorpioMango Newflake Posts: 5 From: Boston, MA USA Registered: Jul 2023
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posted July 14, 2023 10:12 PM
So, my best friend is a Scorpio sun and Mercury. She recently went on a date with a guy who has the following placements:Sun conjunct Pluto, Juno, and Jupiter in Scorpio Venus, North Node, and Mercury in Scorpio Mars in Leo Saturn in Pisces So, there's a lot going on. We don't know his birth time but his birthday gives a high likelihood he's an Aries moon. Their synastry shows quite a bit of compatibility. His Mars exactly conjunct her Asc. His Venus exactly conjunct her Sun. Her Mars and Venus trine his Mars. Her Mercury conjunct his North Node. Her Moon conjunct his Chiron. His Saturn trine her Mars. They DO have his Venus square her Uranus and his Pluto square her ascendant. Perhaps this is the issue. They went on a date and hit it off. He told her he's very attracted to her, finds her so interesting, and really wants to get to know her. He told her he wanted to see her the following day. They sat in his car and talked for hours in front of her apartment. She said he was probing her like crazy. Then she never hears from him so she texts him a night later asking if he is still interested. TWO weeks later, he texts her out of the blue and tells her he's really sorry, he's been so busy and he's still very interested. She responds that it's fine but she wants him to be more consistent (or clear, I don't remember) in his communication. He says he can do that and says he really admires how honest and direct she is. She asks if he's busy that weekend. ANOTHER week goes by. He calls her randomly again. She calls him back the next day and he doesn't answer, but texts her saying he'll call in a bit and again, he's so sorry. He calls her back 4-5 days later and she just never answered. I personally have never heard of a Scorpio guy say he's super interested in someone and not be this responsive. Sure, Scorpios can lie and manipulate, but the date was fairly PG and she said he really focused on her and she felt like he was being serious with how he felt. To me, this guy should be probably OVERLY communicative. Not throwing out compliments every few weeks but not following through. Would you say this interaction sounds more like a fault of his birth chart or their synastry? I think throwing Pluto into his natal conjunctions (especially in Scorpio) plays a huge factor here. Just chaotic, dramatic, and a bit anxiety-inducing I'd imagine. Like, perhaps he truly does have feelings but he's getting a power trip from controlling when he speaks to her. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10326 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 15, 2023 06:42 AM
Yikes. Sounds like there is Uranus/Saturn happening in the mix. The stop & start situation is awkward and confusing.IP: Logged |
ScorpioMango Newflake Posts: 5 From: Boston, MA USA Registered: Jul 2023
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posted July 15, 2023 10:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Yikes. Sounds like there is Uranus/Saturn happening in the mix. The stop & start situation is awkward and confusing.
Well that certainly could be the case. I didn't include their Uranus inter aspects for a few reasons, but here they are: Her Moon trines his Uranus Her Uranus squares his Venus and Mercury I’ve also had these Uranus squares in two longer-term relationships and they haven’t particularly manifested into hot-and-cold behavior (I have been Uranus both times). Typically my partner just thinks I’m very intellectual in a quirky way, though isolating inter aspects will never give us the whole picture. From my understanding the Uranus person tends to be the more aloof or unpredictable one in hard aspects to another’s personal planets, while the person who's personal planets are affected usually wonders why Uranus is acting like this. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 962 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted July 15, 2023 11:47 AM
Synastry with Uranus in hard aspect to Venus is notorious when it comes to "hot and cold" behaviour. https://cafeastrology.com/synastry/venus_uranus_aspects.html I'm not sure if this is what Aries23Degrees meant, but Uranus is currently in Taurus, making a hard aspect to his Scorpio placements. And Saturn is currently in Pisces, so this could be the Saturn return of the man in question. https://cafeastrology.com/uranustransits.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_return Both transits could cause this man to feel too much pressure into adulthood (Saturn return) and have a strong urge to act out and be unpredictable (Uranus opposition). IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10326 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 16, 2023 03:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by ScorpioMango: Well that certainly could be the case. I didn't include their Uranus inter aspects for a few reasons, but here they are:Her Moon trines his Uranus Her Uranus squares his Venus and Mercury I’ve also had these Uranus squares in two longer-term relationships and they haven’t particularly manifested into hot-and-cold behavior (I have been Uranus both times). Typically my partner just thinks I’m very intellectual in a quirky way, though isolating inter aspects will never give us the whole picture. From my understanding the Uranus person tends to be the more aloof or unpredictable one in hard aspects to another’s personal planets, while the person who's personal planets are affected usually wonders why Uranus is acting like this.
I meant Uranus/Saturn with him natally. This can cause the stops and starts. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10326 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 16, 2023 03:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by PlutoWasHere: Synastry with Uranus in hard aspect to Venus is notorious when it comes to "hot and cold" behaviour. https://cafeastrology.com/synastry/venus_uranus_aspects.html I'm not sure if this is what Aries23Degrees meant, but Uranus is currently in Taurus, making a hard aspect to his Scorpio placements. And Saturn is currently in Pisces, so this could be the Saturn return of the man in question. https://cafeastrology.com/uranustransits.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_return Both transits could cause this man to feel too much pressure into adulthood (Saturn return) and have a strong urge to act out and be unpredictable (Uranus opposition).
Yes. Absolutely what I meant..🙌🏿. Hard to tell without the details of the Sco person's chart. But my experience has been that Uranus aspects (by transit and/or natal) tend to have the individual be unable to maintain a level of consistency in commitments I.e. they cancel dates last minute, firget appointments or simply not show up OR rarely follow up with phone calls etc. IP: Logged |
ScorpioMango Newflake Posts: 5 From: Boston, MA USA Registered: Jul 2023
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posted July 16, 2023 03:04 PM
Yes, totally see the Uranus transit at the root here. As this woman and I are both Scorpios (very much a "til death do us part" type of sister-friendship!), we're loving this investigation. Since both her and this man are both Scorpios as well, I'm posting their combined synastry (note we do not know his birth time). In my opinion, even if Uranus transits weren't a factor, there's quite a bit of Scorpio energy. The relationship would be far to Plutonic to last in a healthy way. And, I'm personally a bit too protective of her to let it get to that level IP: Logged |
ScorpioMango Newflake Posts: 5 From: Boston, MA USA Registered: Jul 2023
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posted July 16, 2023 03:13 PM
Hopefully this works and we see the chart! IP: Logged |
Hmmm Knowflake Posts: 132 From: Registered: Jun 2023
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posted July 16, 2023 05:10 PM
i don't know his birthday other than that he was a scorpio...most scorpio person i have metand that's pretty much how it went down with us ------------------ my chart https://pasteboard.co/t0WQvE5zztNK.png IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10326 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 16, 2023 06:43 PM
Yes. The Scorpio man likely has Uranus/Moon square. My guess is tht even with a very early birth time, the Moon would be at 20Aries. Whilst latest @ 27Aries. Either way however , there would be an aspect to Uranus (and perhaps Neptune too). So this isn't someone who likes to be tied down or be "hemmed" in. Very open ended. This especially with Neptune in the mix of things. Currently Ura is opposing his Sun. Not the best period for consistency. And Uranus also squares his Mars. Also not great for stability. There could genuinely be stuff that is chaotic in his life right now that makes him unable to follow through on set commitments. Add to that the Saturn return. Perhaps it is a peak pount in the career? Lots of demands placed on him? And with the return, we are usually eager to impress and focus our attention on one thing. Not being distracted by too many other things that may come along. This even when those things are "leisure" focused. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 2241 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted July 17, 2023 12:01 PM
I had known bunch of people with Uranus influence in chart and our synastry. There was a time when I learnt not to care. I knew if we’re doing something at 10.30 am, it means somewhere after 11 am, probably if we were lucky. When somebody says I call you back- it doesn’t mean more than a regular bye. I still have people around like that. When they accidentally start to care more and as that why didn’t you call me back. I get surprised. Do we actually following through with other nowadays?! Lol IP: Logged |