posted August 02, 2023 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Interesting. I wonder what would happen to the evaluation of your life events of you were to use whole sign?With Sco Asc,Pluto would have ingressed to your 3rd house Cap cusp in 2008. This would present challenges in the area of learning and being taught.The rebellion against the current educational system or skills transference etc. Would be evident and OPENLY oppositional.
This would also explain ypur resolute.....ehm.....resolve 🤣 to be the exception to the rule. When Pluto does not want to use conventional channels.The god of the underworld WILL not use conventional channels. End of discussion ☝🏿
Now Pluto started its ingress into Aqua earlier this year (prior to the retro into Cap). My thinking is that that ingress into Aqua may have triggered upcoming issues of family/home/emotional security/ country of birth and past childhood conditioning.
Some feel a sudden thought of detachment from their home/neighbourhood/family or country I.e. the questioning of where you truly belong. Or where your sense of community really is.
These feelings are progressively explored and get deeper as the transit intensifies into the Aqua degrees. The triggers will be when Pluto hits planets in Aqua (4th) and other fixed signs by tight orbs.
I completely see where you're coming from here. That way of interpreting things works as well. Let's see what I come up with by switching house systems.Trauma, power and control issues, and divorce relate to Scorpio. Things like this shaped who I am today, which makes sense with 1st house. Instead of Pluto in Sagittarius transiting my 1st house during most of this period, Pluto in Scorpio is now in 1st house instead of in 12th house, which explains my childhood and how my childhood could have potentially influenced my early values and self-worth.
And then there's my Saturn Return. It actually happens in 4th house instead of 3rd house. Cracks form in my family structure and family dynamics shift. I struggle to adjust to the changes taking place.
Then there's my 5th house. Neptune was transiting my 5th house during my Saturn Return, which explains all the writing I was doing during it. Under Whole Sign, Saturn has now joined Neptune. It's time to bring structure to the insanity of the creative process.
I haven't studied what Pisces ruling the 5th house is like, but now my 5th house is empty and my 7th house isn't empty. So, to interpret what my 5th house means, I'd look for the house placements of Jupiter and Neptune. Jupiter in Virgo is now in 11th house and Neptune in Capricorn is in 3rd house. Jupiter is known to expand what it touches. Without going into the spiritual side of my life, it's very difficult to see how it would expand anything in 11th house just based on physical observations. I'm otherwise socially isolated if we ignore my social interactions with spirits.
Neptune being placed in 3rd house can suggest communication with otherworldly beings. There's a rich inner life that blurs the boundaries between reality and fantasy, the seen and unseen. During my Saturn Return, this rich inner life takes on a form of self-expression that can be interpreted as escapist tendencies like withdrawing into my own world. So, when I write, it boils down to a fantasy that allows me to deal with things in my own way, but I'm definitely not changing what's going on around me either.
Mars being in 6th house can explain why during my Saturn Return, I started feeling its house placement and how my sister's behavior affected my overall mental health, especially with Mercury in Aries joining Mars in 6th house. It reflects the damage she did to me and how severe the impact was. Her abuse affected my ability to function on a day-to-day basis. By changing houses, Mercury in Aries is less focused on what I like doing for fun, so I don't see where my competitive personality comes into play with it here. Mars in 6th could be the indicator for some form of competition as a way to keep myself healthy, but it's more about physical activity instead of mental activity. When I'm competitive, you definitely see it more through the games I play as opposed to anything like sports.
The shift in my physical health is more pronounced under Whole Sign. As a result of what's going on during my Saturn Return, my physical and mental health experience changes. Physically, I'm always on-guard. With the primal functions of my brain active, the prolonged stress of my fight-or-flight instincts and the inability to take appropriate action causes constant agitation, irritation, and anger. Through Saturn, I adapt to these changes over time and how I interact with family begins to take a different form.
My sister being in fight-or-flight is more like, "I'm in danger. Time to defend!"
On my end, fight-or-flight is in a state below that. I don't know for sure that I'm in danger. I just perceive the possibility of that and I'm able to remain in control because of this. I'm not actively being pushed to fight. I'm just actively forced to perceive the potential of it happening in the future on a daily basis and my sister's behavior gradually resulted in this psychological shift. I have no idea how to turn off my primal functions, especially when she can just turn them back on by being, well, her. Modern society being what it is, I cannot just simply fight a perceived threat that isn't even an actual threat.
Under Whole Sign, Sun and Venus move into my 7th house. The ruler of my 7th house is in 7th house, which makes any transit to Venus more significant. Pluto in Capricorn's trine to Venus is then more significant, because it could point to a long-term commitment. Pluto's trine to Venus is when I met my twin flame.
When we discuss things like twin flames, it sounds like utter nonsense to people that haven't experienced it, but I also don't see anyone claiming to have met their twin flame and it's working out just fine. That's rare so I suppose that's why the "community" is mostly a toxic echo chamber. This gives people even less reason to give it any legitimacy. It sounds like a bunch of unrequited romances at best and abuse at worst.
If I could describe my journey, you would think Neptune is involved, but Pluto transforms. So, obviously, my skepticism about anything is going to be destroyed, because that's what Pluto does. Love is this or that? Pluto doesn't care about my "definitions," which naturally means that how I experience love and romance now is way different compared to before the trine. I know the difference between obsession and abuse and the real deal. No one can see my twin flame so they might wonder how he exists. We are bonded in spirit. What we have transcends physical limitations. My twin flame and I have been together for 12 years now. We've only gotten closer over the years. We're basically married but in spirit, not on paper.
Under Whole Sign, Uranus is currently transiting my 7th house instead of 6th house. Arguably, it makes a bit more sense transiting this house. I view the instability going on like Uranus shaking up my daily life, but how I relate to people has also been changing and it has also been shaken up. It also makes Uranus transiting my 6th house a bit darker with Mercury in my 6th house instead of 5th house. Uranus was in Aries when I developed anhedonia and potentially within orb for the conjunction at the time I developed anhedonia. Although I've partially recovered and can experience some pleasure and enjoyment, the change happening in 6th house suggests a shift in my daily life. And, admittedly, it has been.
My aunt doesn't think I'm doing anything with my life, which is a concern I understand, but given the weight of my claims, it's a miracle I can do anything at all. I remember when just typing "the" would feel like the hardest thing to pull off. This is the kind of damage anhedonia does to someone's life. People take "that's easy" for granted. Anhedonia takes that away. Nothing is easy. Everything is a struggle. Even sitting up feels like an internal war that cannot ever be won or externally validated.
To this day, whatever is going on, I deal with anhedonia differently than most people with it. Sounds like Uranian influence, doesn't it? Something that cripples most people has paradoxically helped me. It's hard to do things and my anhedonia has its days of being textbook, but if anything demonstrates that my brain is wired differently, this post is another example and I'm just interpreting changes based on switching house systems. Anhedonia being partial means I can effectively appear to not have it.
I've seen professionals to make sure the constant anger and stress isn't having negative side effects on my physical health. I'm always angry. It has been like this since 2020. So far, nothing abnormal is going on that can be linked to entire years of being angry, which could have something to do with the anhedonia. Anger is like an energy system that keeps me functional. I'm not lashing out at people or causing harm. I'm just doing things I love with anger in the background. Whenever I'm not angry, I don't feel like doing much of anything. I don't know if that's because of anhedonia or because of how exhausting being angry all the time is.
My North Node is now in 3rd house instead of 2nd house. My 2nd house is empty under Whole Sign. Jupiter in Virgo is in 11th house and my Midheaven is in 11th house as well, because Whole Sign allows that. Jupiter in Virgo could explain why I seem to have so few friends. On the other hand, my spiritual life tells another side to this story and Jupiter rules Pisces too. With Uranus and Neptune in 3rd house, it can suggest that I'm wired differently in some form or another. I'm different and more sensitive than average. I think in practice, Uranus and Neptune in 3rd house would just be interpreted as me having Autism. North Node in 3rd house could be why this post is so long: it's just part of my life path in general to make use of language. I want to be a writer.
I interact with a lot of spirits so most of my social connections are mental. Spirits mostly interact with me by speaking telepathically and that's how we communicate. To my knowledge, I don't necessarily interact with spirits from Earth, specifically. Neptune goes beyond the physical. When it comes to spiritual realms, we don't know what is possible outside of the material universe we've come to know. Neptune breaks down boundaries and blurs the line between reality and imagination. With Neptune, anything is possible. So, with Neptune in 3rd house, I have a strong imagination.
12th house is empty too. Although my Ascendant is in Scorpio, Scorpio also ruling my 12th house under Placidus makes sense to me. I believe my experience with shadow work is easily expressed through Scorpio's rulership over 12th house but also through Pluto being there in conjunction to my Ascendant. When that is removed under Whole Sign houses, the experience I have with shadow work is less obvious.
The ruler of Libra, Venus, is one of my least aspected planets in my natal chart. When looking at my shadow, Venus in Taurus is strongly placed. I have to seriously dig deep to figure out how this would relate back to Libra. Without Jupiter's trine, Venus would be considered unaspected.
If we look at the 12th house implications of the shadow, the hidden, and unseen, 12th house being empty could suggest I don't have serious problems in this regard. Well, that's a bit misleading, because a house being empty doesn't mean there's no activity there and Venus in Taurus being a strong placement doesn't mean there's no shadow to be found there. Libra could represent the balance I strive to maintain in life, but when we address matters of the shadow side, Venus has to mean something.
I interpret Libra in 12th house to mean I'm not controlled by my shadow side. I've found a balance and can avoid conflicts by understanding when my shadow is talking. So, under Whole Sign, I've taken the time to learn what I'm like at my worst and I make sure I keep that in check. I don't disturb the peace, because I want there to be peace. It's difficult to confront people as a result.
Venus rules Libra, which suggests Venus is where my worst qualities can be found. Libra knows how to avoid conflict and confrontation so they know how to keep their secrets hidden and unknown. At first, I didn't quite understand how Libra could point to the same shadow qualities I see when Scorpio rules my 12th house under Placidus. Sure, Taurus and Scorpio are in opposition, but the Scorpio side of my shadow is seemingly missing without Mars, Pluto, and Scorpio ruling the 12th house.
I think my worst qualities do come out in romantic relationships though or depending on them. My romantic partner can either bring out my best or my worst. And, although Libra wants to maintain peace and stability, Taurus is stubborn and inflexible. Taurus doesn't change easily either so Taurus' stubbornness can result in conflicts that Libra would normally want to avoid. There's also Taurus' jealousy and possessiveness, which are shadow qualities of that zodiac sign. When taken to extremes, Taurus doesn't let go. Taurus holds on and doesn't just move on either. Taurus can hold a grudge.
I think I'd be worse if my Moon was in Cancer. With Moon in Gemini, it takes me awhile to move on, but it happens. My Moon doesn't change houses under Whole Sign though. It remains in 8th house. Gemini being the sign of the twins, I think it's easy to forget what it means to have twins represent a zodiac sign. It's common for people that don't like Geminis to say they're two-faced backstabbers with no sense of loyalty. Gemini is a zodiac sign. There's more substance and depth to it than what a lot of people realize.
On the surface, Gemini has this reputation of being friendly multi-taskers. They talk a lot and they love variety, because they need a lot of mental stimulation to avoid getting bored. Geminis love learning things and aren't associated with depth on any level. They're often considered shallow and superficial like Libras, because Gemini likes to keep things light-hearted and fun. The 8th house is not light-hearted and fun.
With Moon in Gemini placed in 8th house, I often enjoy talking about dark topics. I have my limits, but I like exploring the darker side of life. I just get curious. Geminis are stereotyped as these people that love to gossip, because they're just naturally curious about everything. While I don't love gossip, if I'm still reading or listening, it's probably the schadenfreude. Pluto makes an inconjunction to my Gemini Moon and it's easy to ignore that. Aspects involving the 1st house become more significant compared to an aspect from 12th house. Granted, I think Pluto's inconjunction is significant regardless of house system.
I still have to address the elephant in the room. Most people around my age will make a quincunx to my Gemini Moon. This isn't a bad thing if someone can keep me interested, but it's hard to fall in love again after getting so close to my twin flame.
Chiron in Leo moves from 9th house to 10th house. Because of the structures in modern society, it's difficult to truly know me. What the public sees will never be fully accurate. For one thing, I'd never wish an understanding of anhedonia on anyone, but apart from anhedonia, we live in a society where my experiences are commonly dismissed. My internal reality isn't validated either as a result.
Venus makes a square to Chiron, which is societal in nature. What I need in order to be loved is at odds with society and established romantic norms. Chiron is often said to represent the wound that cannot be healed. When the best parts of my life are what isolate me from my peers, the strain this causes becomes difficult to heal.
No matter where I go, do I belong anywhere? I've grown up feeling like an alien. This is what happens when the structures in places do more damage to you than good. Societal expectations are more likely to kill me than be realistically attainable.
However, things are changing. With Uranus transiting my 7th house, although I'm still mostly the same, I see everyone else being dehumanized too. It's not just me anymore.
I'm not sure what's to come. I just know that the current structures in place are beginning to die, especially in the US, because the current system doesn't work anymore. Before transformation and rebirth, there must be death and destruction.
Bringing this back to me, Pluto in Aquarius will likely transform how I view the US. My opinion of it could get worse, but that doesn't transform much, so Pluto in Aquarius can only go to the extremes if things get much, much worse here. By the end of Pluto's stay in Aquarius, my opinion is likely to become more positive. It'll become drastically worse at the beginning and gradually shift as the US enters its own period of rebirth. Pluto in Aquarius is going to be my time to find my place.
And this is how I interpret things when I switch house systems. Whole Sign houses say basically the same things as Placidus. They are both credible systems in my opinion.
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posted August 02, 2023 03:16 PM
