posted September 06, 2023 12:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Oh ok. Noted. Mars house 2 would be likely- depending on the house system.i use whole sign houses. So when Mars is in Virgo and Asc I Virgo, I just take it to be House 1.

There is this girl I knew at work who used to pride herself on how good she is in bed and how her man will never cheat because she is "one bad b***ch" etc.

I thought to myself that she is the kind of woman who thinks of using her feminine charms in a competitive way . This including within the space of intimacy.

I didn't get to know her chart. This because I think I found her energy unsettling. Most guys at the office (like me) actually avoided her.

But this *I would imagine* is one of the ways of how the energy of Mars in 1st/8th and even 7th house , would manifest. Because the latter would be in terms of being the "best partner". So the person would "compete" with exes and try to "outdo" them. Mars energy is very competitive.

And Yes, I do know how you feel about Aries/Mars competitiveness SleepyDiary🤣🤣🤣. I actually didnt realize I was responding to you. And so I am not about to fan that flame🔥 again here 😜

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That is so trueee. There was this girl i got to know two years ago she had Mars and Venus in the 7th she was my neighboor who would talk about her ex and one time she bragged about how her ex told her that she was the best they ever had and the way she acted about it was like it was some sort of competition or something, haha.

And yeah you probably saw how ugly my Aries thread went 🤣 Sorry about that.

posted September 06, 2023 12:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Oh ok. Noted. Mars house 2 would be likely- depending on the house system.i use whole sign houses. So when Mars is in Virgo and Asc I Virgo, I just take it to be House 1.

There is this girl I knew at work who used to pride herself on how good she is in bed and how her man will never cheat because she is "one bad b***ch" etc.

I thought to myself that she is the kind of woman who thinks of using her feminine charms in a competitive way . This including within the space of intimacy.

I didn't get to know her chart. This because I think I found her energy unsettling. Most guys at the office (like me) actually avoided her.

But this *I would imagine* is one of the ways of how the energy of Mars in 1st/8th and even 7th house , would manifest. Because the latter would be in terms of being the "best partner". So the person would "compete" with exes and try to "outdo" them. Mars energy is very competitive.

And Yes, I do know how you feel about Aries/Mars competitiveness SleepyDiary🤣🤣🤣. I actually didnt realize I was responding to you. And so I am not about to fan that flame🔥 again here 😜

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But wouldn't that go for women who think that they're better, and it has nothing to do with Mars? Feminine charms, aren't usually associated with Mars, are they?

posted September 06, 2023 01:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
It's a very complex, I can tell you to be vulnerable and show him through encouragement to be "receptive". But men on the whole tend to be resistant to allowing females into their vulnerable areas.

And this is because of the ego attached to how they are being received by the opposite sex i.e. they don't want you to see them as "less".

You dont see them in that light (ofcourse). But they will often imagine that you do. And when you add race /ethnicity/culture into the mix, it can get very intricate.The ego is often a terrible thing to contend with in relationships. It is like having another person there. So it needs to be dealt with to help and not hinder the relationship.🤷🏿‍♂️

With Mars-7th,he thinks of relationships in terms of "I". They are more of an ego driven venture that reflects on him than anything else.

So I imagine that he can be type who doesn't admit to being wrong, slow to apologize openly (if at all), wants to "win" at arguments etc. He wants to be the "best" in the relationship. And admitting to any weaknesses that contradict that, would be out of the question.

He may even opt to use Viagra as a "fix" than have a heart to heart talk about feelings with you. That sqaure of Moon /Merc suggests that he is often saying things that are contradictory or in conflict with how he actually feels. There is a lot of pretension there.

My guess is that the mutual reception of Mercury in Cancer with Moon in Virgo is very sensitive and self critical. So there a projection of external "machoness" to try and "conceal" that.

He is actually better off addressing these issues with you than he is in being able yo face them up.woth another person. Because others would simply dismiss him and move to another person🤷🏿‍♂️

Being vulnerable is very necessary. He has been running away from himself f9r too long or hiding from his truth this far. And with your Saturn trine his Mars,you may be forcing him to face up to his sexuality issues.

Maybe because spontaneity is an issue,another solution would be to consciously look for patterns of when the sex drive peaks and troughs.

So that means that sex(Mars) will be regulated, organized and planned(Sat) I.e. on certain days ,he might be in the mood MORE than in other days.

This would mean that for a month or so, he watches his sex drive to see where it's at its most active. And how the medication has (if any ) effect on it? Etc.

Does he masturbate to porn? What kind? And when turned on,what is it that turns him on? It could be something as small as seeing legs, toes or a woman's panty line etc. Full disclosure and continuous conversation on this topic is very important.

Venus IN Gemini would suggest that the mind is a tool for getting in touch with ones sensual side.So (as I suspected) there is something in talking and verbalizing. And not trying to "censor" or go against what one truly feels.

Is he attracted to you? Truly attracted to you? Or is he with you because it feels "safe"? Hard question to ask. But it must be asked. Honesty is needed.

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Yeah I've been wondering about this. We met on a dating app and he knew what I looked like before we actually met in person. So I don't know why he would continue to have sex with me for this long if he's not attracted to me. He told me he wouldn't have sex with a woman he's not attracted to. I told him I didn't know why men had sex with women who they aren't attracted to. And he said he didn't know that was a thing. Does his chart show he might be lying about being attracted to me?
I will just ask him right out if he's actually attracted to me or not. I mean my Sun is in his 7th house but I don't know if that means attraction.

He told me he doesn't really watch porn and that he uses his imagination. But I'll ask him what kind he likes. Sexually I know for sure he's into male stimulation (if you know what I mean) this was something he was ashamed to admit. He said he has a high sex drive but he controls it (whatever that means). When we first met he told me he hadn't had sex in a long time. Says he doesn't want to ever get married again. He was married for three years and it needed in divorce. He hasn't exactly told me what happened. I think maybe she cheated on him. Because he told me he was sure that there was someone else. He doesn't want kids and doesn't want to live with anyone again. Also he said he doesn't like his neighbors he doesn't want to live around people.

posted September 06, 2023 02:52 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
But wouldn't that go for women who think that they're better, and it has nothing to do with Mars? Feminine charms, aren't usually associated with Mars, are they?

I don't compete for men, and I think that insecurities are natural for everyone.

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Where is your Mars? What aspects does it make?🤔. Insecurities are there with everyone. True. But Aries is 1st sign of the zodiac and likes to be in that position. It does not like to give that up NOR share that space. There is a 'self promotion' aspect of Aries that often precludes others

Aries is (by extension) ruled by Mars. Wherever we have Mars in the chart( unless there are various aspects to Mars to the contrary),is where we want to give the "best" of ourselves. And not looking to be outdone.

Mars in 6th- "Best" Employee or Employer
Mars in 4th-"Best" Home in the hood
Mars in 5th-"Best" at sherades
Mars in 3rd-" Best" car or "Best" driver

The interpretations are not limited to this ofcourse.Suffice it to say, Mars in the chart is usually (together with the Sun) where we want to "throw down". We are not subtle in the house area. Unless Sat/Nep is sharing the house or on aspect to Mars.

Oh Yes,and by "feminine charms", what I meant is that this is what she believes differentiates her from other women. It gives her the "edge". So she considers it "charm" or "swag". And includes it very much in her identity as a woman.

Not all Ari/Mars women are like that ofcourse.Context & chart is everything. My Tau sister is Ven/Jup in Ari with Mars on Sun/Moon midpoint and Moon/Merc midpoint. Mars is also opp Ura and so she is strongly Mars painted.

Impulsive? Yes.Confrontational? Yes. She may not "compete" for men. No. But nobody can accuse her of being an
"iffy" girlfriend. She is "all" in . Maybe too intense for some guys? But very present. Mars influences us to be PRESENT.

posted September 06, 2023 03:06 PM            

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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
That is so trueee. There was this girl i got to know two years ago she had Mars and Venus in the 7th she was my neighboor who would talk about her ex and one time she bragged about how her ex told her that she was the best they ever had and the way she acted about it was like it was some sort of competition or something, haha.

And yeah you probably saw how ugly my Aries thread went 🤣 Sorry about that.

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It's all good. For me its just confirmation of the nature of Aries/Mars combo. It does tend to get people heated and passionate.

I recall there was a member who disappeared after rattling a few cages when they stated that Aries women are "masculine" and thus (by extension) inferred that Aries women lack "femininity" and the affiliated "attractiveness" of those who have that femininity.

She was very blunt and inflammatory.Had a very skewed or extreme polarizing view of Astrology (in my opinion)- focusing on Sun sign descriptions and discounting everything else.

The irony? Though she was a Pisces Sun, much of her chart had Aries placements. The very sign energy she opposed and thought of as "vile"🤷🏿‍♂️

posted September 06, 2023 03:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
It's all good. For me its just confirmation of the nature of Aries/Mars combo. It does tend to get people heated and passionate.

I recall there was a member who disappeared after rattling a few cages when they stated that Aries women are "masculine" and thus (by extension) inferred that Aries women lack "femininity" and the affiliated "attractiveness" of those who have that femininity.

She was very blunt and inflammatory.Had a very skewed or extreme polarizing view of Astrology (in my opinion)- focusing on Sun sign descriptions and discounting everything else.

The irony? Though she was a Pisces Sun, much of her chart had Aries placements. The very sign energy she opposed and thought of as "vile"🤷🏿‍♂️

As she went on on about Pisces women being "angelic" in comparison to Aries etc. You can guess how that thread went down.🤣🤣🤣.....🌋🌋🌋 Fire! Fire! Fire!

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posted September 06, 2023 03:57 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Yeah I've been wondering about this. We met on a dating app and he knew what I looked like before we actually met in person. So I don't know why he would continue to have sex with me for this long if he's not attracted to me. He told me he wouldn't have sex with a woman he's not attracted to. I told him I didn't know why men had sex with women who they aren't attracted to. And he said he didn't know that was a thing. Does his chart show he might be lying about being attracted to me?
I will just ask him right out if he's actually attracted to me or not. I mean my Sun is in his 7th house but I don't know if that means attraction.

He told me he doesn't really watch porn and that he uses his imagination. But I'll ask him what kind he likes. Sexually I know for sure he's into male stimulation (if you know what I mean) this was something he was ashamed to admit. He said he has a high sex drive but he controls it (whatever that means). When we first met he told me he hadn't had sex in a long time. Says he doesn't want to ever get married again. He was married for three years and it needed in divorce. He hasn't exactly told me what happened. I think maybe she cheated on him. Because he told me he was sure that there was someone else. He doesn't want kids and doesn't want to live with anyone again. Also he said he doesn't like his neighbors he doesn't want to live around people.

He did say that he knows that he needs counseling to help him with communication.

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What is "Male stimulation "?🤔

He has Sat/Nep/Ura in house 4. Saturn conj Ic. He doesn't come from a very supportive environment. It was largely rigid,strict and wanted conformance from him.

Look at that Moon in house 12. Never sure about how one really feels. Not trusting ones own opinion OR keeping own thoughts hidden from others.

Ruler of his 1st house (the focus area of ones thrust in life) is in house of teachings/beliefs and morality 9th house. Venus widely trine Moon in 12th. He means well(9th) but his ideals don't come to fruition (12th) I.e. he can make promises that he cant keep.

Is he a person who is learned or religious? Jup (signifier of religion, belief systems and moral judgement) is opposing Sat. So the religious beliefs were likely imposed on him? Or there was trouble with educators or authority figures whom he had to learn under (including parental figures).

My thinking is that perhaps he lived a life where he felt oppressed & stifled by his religious beliefs? Or else his home environment was strict/suppressive? They expected religious alignment and detachment from hedonistic things *including sex*.

Venus rules the 1st house and is ruling the 8th house. This points to problems in getting in touch with their sensual side. Venus in 9th can be an attempt to combine ones sensual nature with religious beliefs or ideals (including abstinence- if they are considered the "ideals" of the 9th).

Venus in Gemini can also make sexuality more "cerebral" and not physical. It is the "idea" of sex that is more attractive than the actual act.

I would be interested to know aspects (by declination) TO Neptune/Sun/Merc (if any).

Jupiter is squaring Mars. His beliefs (Jup) interfere or are "incompatible" (square) with his drive to express himself impulsively (Mars).

Maybe religious guilt interferes with sexual expression? Or else he considers his innate desires(Mars) too "unclean" to act on, so he suppresses them? That could be the Saturn- Mars square I.e. restrict (Sat) acting on them(Mars).

posted September 06, 2023 05:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
What is "Male stimulation "?🤔

He has Sat/Nep/Ura in house 4. Saturn conj Ic. He doesn't come from a very supportive environment. It was largely rigid,strict and wanted conformance from him.

Look at that Moon in house 12. Never sure about how one really feels. Not trusting ones own opinion OR keeping own thoughts hidden from others.

Ruler of his 1st house (the focus area of ones thrust in life) is in house of teachings/beliefs and morality 9th house. Venus widely trine Moon in 12th. He means well(9th) but his ideals don't come to fruition (12th) I.e. he can make promises that he cant keep.

Is he a person who is learned or religious? Jup (signifier of religion, belief systems and moral judgement) is opposing Sat. So the religious beliefs were likely imposed on him? Or there was trouble with educators or authority figures whom he had to learn under (including parental figures).

My thinking is that perhaps he lived a life where he felt oppressed & stifled by his religious beliefs? Or else his home environment was strict/suppressive? They expected religious alignment and detachment from hedonistic things *including sex*.

Venus rules the 1st house and is ruling the 8th house. This points to problems in getting in touch with their sensual side. Venus in 9th can be an attempt to combine ones sensual nature with religious beliefs or ideals (including abstinence- if they are considered the "ideals" of the 9th).

Venus in Gemini can also make sexuality more "cerebral" and not physical. It is the "idea" of sex that is more attractive than the actual act.

I would be interested to know aspects (by declination) TO Neptune/Sun/Merc (if any).

Jupiter is squaring Mars. His beliefs (Jup) interfere or are "incompatible" (square) with his drive to express himself impulsively (Mars).

Maybe religious guilt interferes with sexual expression? Or else he considers his innate desires(Mars) too "unclean" to act on, so he suppresses them? That could be the Saturn- Mars square I.e. restrict (Sat) acting on them(Mars).

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Prostate stimulation is what I mean and he was ashamed to admit it.

He told me growing up he was poor. So now he works really hard. Because he wants nice things. Since he didn't have it growing up. That's the difference between us. I always had nice things but the lack of emotional support.

He did say him and his mother were close though. She has Cancer I can only imagine how he's feelings about that. Of course he hasn't talked about it. I do worry about how it'll impact him if something happens to her. Sometimes he'll talk about her and I just listen. Currently he has transit Pluto in the 4th house close to the IC I hope he doesn't lose his mother right now. He doesn't talk to his siblings.

My Moon is in his 4th house conjunct his North Node. So I assume maybe I give him some kind of comfort in that regard. I don't know how he feels but I made a comment about how I get to come over and relax and have coffee. He didn't say anything but I saw him smile so I guess that's a good thing. For a long time

posted September 07, 2023 02:54 PM            

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Prostate stimulation is what I mean and he was ashamed to admit it.

He told me growing up he was poor. So now he works really hard. Because he wants nice things. Since he didn't have it growing up. That's the difference between us. I always had nice things but the lack of emotional support.

He did say him and his mother were close though. She has Cancer I can only imagine how he's feelings about that. Of course he hasn't talked about it. I do worry about how it'll impact him if something happens to her. Sometimes he'll talk about her and I just listen. Currently he has transit Pluto in the 4th house close to the IC I hope he doesn't lose his mother right now. He doesn't talk to his siblings.

My Moon is in his 4th house conjunct his North Node. So I assume maybe I give him some kind of comfort in that regard. I don't know how he feels but I made a comment about how I get to come over and relax and have coffee. He didn't say anything but I saw him smile so I guess that's a good thing. For a long time

He doesn't believe in God his Moon is in the 11th house. But maybe the 12th house does have some influence by it being so close.

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Oh,prostrate stimulation. I see. I find it ironic that those who have sexuality issues ,tend to have these so called "off the wall" things turn them on.🤔

Had someone I know who has a thing for armpits. Armpits!🤷🏿‍♂️ We like what we like I guess.

So prostrate stimulation huh? Has he asked you to do that to him? Have you offered?

It's bot as "embarrassing" as he thinks, some men like to get their 🍑 eaten out to stimulate that part. Its called "gay" by closed minded people. But i don't agree. Men actually fun through the prostate being stimulated. Its biology.

And add to that, when it comes to pleasure, we must be open-minded and not label things. It makes people hesitant to share what they really like. People hate labels. And we tend to feel more free with someone whom we feel sexually understood and accepted by.

There are girls who but strapons for their men. Or play around with butt-plugs etc. Its really a question of what someone likes and how their partner ( within reason and not without the threat of health or psychological impairment) pleasing Them.

I find it interesting that with Moon in house 12,Chiron in Cancer and Moon in mutual reception and square to Mercury,that his relationship with his Mom is close. I would not have thought that. Especially with added Sat conj Ic

But perhaps the poverty he spoke of is representative of that Saturn on Ic ? That would make sense too. Plus the Saturn/Jup opp would make one sceptical of religion.

I am glad that religious guilt is not tied to his sexuality repression. That would make things more tricky. That wohld require more mental untangling.

I am also happy that he told you of what turns him on. That is brave and shows trust. So now the question is,would he let you and him explore that fully to see where that takes you? Would he be open to that? Would You?

posted September 07, 2023 03:10 PM            

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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
Haha it probably "beat" my thread 🤣 But seriously for me the reason why i put more attention on the Sun in my thread was bc that was the placement i`ve experienced those issues with the most and i thought it might have to do with us being opposite. So while i realize i have Mars on my Rising and can be combative and blunt myself i`m still no full blooded Aries/Mars person and my chart is full of influence that either square or opposite their Sign so a lot of their behavior feels foregein to me and sometimes very irritating.

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I know what you mean. I am still constantly testing transits and my Asc to check for consistencies. I have always thought I was Tau Asc. I didn't understand it when Aries was the calculated Ascendant sign during the rectification process.How?

And with the added Mars planet angular in a T-square formation to accentuate the Asc in Aries? What?

So far however,I have noted that Aries Asc does seem to fit. As I get to know my Asc deeper,I realize that having Mars in Lib,Merc in Cap and Moon in Cancer, ALL tend to weigh down on the nature so much.

But even with that being the case,the characteristics do show up very spontaneously.And the transit hits do align. I just have trouble always seeing it for myself because of the other planets squaring it.

posted September 07, 2023 03:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Oh,prostrate stimulation. I see. I find it ironic that those who have sexuality issues ,tend to have these so called "off the wall" things turn them on.🤔

Had someone I know who has a thing for armpits. Armpits!🤷🏿‍♂️ We like what we like I guess.

So prostrate stimulation huh? Has he asked you to do that to him? Have you offered?

It's bot as "embarrassing" as he thinks, some men like to get their 🍑 eaten out to stimulate that part. Its called "gay" by closed minded people. But i don't agree. Men actually fun through the prostate being stimulated. Its biology.

And add to that, when it comes to pleasure, we must be open-minded and not label things. It makes people hesitant to share what they really like. People hate labels. And we tend to feel more free with someone whom we feel sexually understood and accepted by.

There are girls who but strapons for their men. Or play around with butt-plugs etc. Its really a question of what someone likes and how their partner ( within reason and not without the threat of health or psychological impairment) pleasing Them.

I find it interesting that with Moon in house 12,Chiron in Cancer and Moon in mutual reception and square to Mercury,that his relationship with his Mom is close. I would not have thought that. Especially with added Sat conj Ic

But perhaps the poverty he spoke of is representative of that Saturn on Ic ? That would make sense too. Plus the Saturn/Jup opp would make one sceptical of religion.

I am glad that religious guilt is not tied to his sexuality repression. That would make things more tricky. That wohld require more mental untangling.

I am also happy that he told you of what turns him on. That is brave and shows trust. So now the question is,would he let you and him explore that fully to see where that takes you? Would he be open to that? Would You?

Maybe one of the things that you can suggest is that he "self please" in front of you and tell you where to touch? Nothing builds trust more than "climaxing" in the presence of someone. ☝🏿

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Yes, he's asked me and I have done it. I have no problem with it at all. I'm very open-minded when it comes to sex. So it takes a lot to turn me off.

You were right about trying to be sensual. He's mentioned that he thinks kissing is sensual and I think he likes lingerie too. Sometimes he likes to cuddle. I'm not really the touchy-feely type. (I hate my Aquarius Moon) At first, it was awkward for me and I kind of pulled away. But now I'm more used to it and it feels more comfortable.

You said he has Moon in the 12th house. But it looks like it's in the 11th house. Or do you consider it to be in the 12th house because it's so close?

posted September 08, 2023 12:47 AM            

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So for men, they can feel judged on their 'manhood' constantly and wanting to live up to some ideal. And if "success" is not had through the bedroom, it will be through attaining control and material success by beating the competition and impressing others through lofty ambitious goals achieved! Hence Mars in Cap is "exalted" in this position. It's VERY competitive and attached to ego success.

I often see "Machoness", "Machismo" and even misogynistic tendencies to be there too in this personality.There is a traditional/conservative outlook to what constitutes "manhood".And that's because there's conditioned perfectionsistic approaches to expressing the divine masculine.This to such an extent, that it can result in putting down the divine feminine within and then (by extension) without.

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I see now why he (my Mars/Saturn ex) fought someone just because the person was not acting like a "macho" man and he disliked so much with a man who act like more feminine, soft, or passive - non competitive. He could mock the person if the person passed on him, like, not really nice of him and I kind of turned off by that side of him.

I also knew someone whom after we met with my husband and his wife, he later messaged me. At first it was about job and soon the conversation about my husband. He started criticizing but more like he tried to belittled him and did a comparison (I knew my husband was so shy at the time - meeting new people, I knew he was passive at the time, I knew he didn't appear strong nor aggressive like "macho" man out there, what was wrong with that?). I thought, "why do you try to talk bad about my husband (Cancer Mars) to ME? what is your purpose? To feel better?" I was so upset reading his long messages, because it was not appropriate, very arrogant of him, and he violated our professional boundaries - I avoid talking about personal issues because I am quite a private person and do not like mix professionalism with some kind of personal issues that has nothing to do with it. I didn't even have time to scanning his wife and I expected him to do the same with my husband because we met for professionalism not a gossip group. (which later he then ended up talking bad about his wife to me and tried to compare her with me. He saw me better that he wanted his wife to copy me, but she kept failing because, yes, she wasn't me and why he pushed his wife to be like me?? It made me having a flash back to my ex)

I was curious to see his natal chart because I knew he was a Cancer Sun, but where is this arrogance coming? No matter how much he tried to charm his pants off with me (he is also a Gemini influence), he successfully turned me off with it. It's interesting that he has Mars square Saturn.

**This is all about personal taste, maybe for some, they prefer this look alike "macho" man, but for me, it can be a not nice behavior as it fails to see the other side of coin.

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So you may notice that they like to be "on top" as men and being the one "dominating"? They prefer submissiveness of the partner and for them to be given complete control over your body in bed? There may even be sadism involved in the act of sex? The act can be aggressive or be to "incept" or "plant" a seed than having them being on the receptive side?

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Sadism? Hmm.. My ex raped me, is it included? He offered me a drink which he called "a new formula of herbal drink" (he knew I was living a healthy life and I had a low tolerance to an alcohol). He already took away the original bottle and changed it to another bottle that cover up the color of the drink, he put a straw in it. It was very sour taste to me that I refused to take another sip, but he pushed the bottle to make me take another sip and told me it was good to my body and I should take more and I started loosing the control of my body that I couldn't push my body to stand up. I felt like I wanted to sleep but funny that my brain was still active saying, "wake up! wake up!" but my body couldn't synchronize. He immediately dragged me soon after I collapsed.

I was confused and was manipulated. Or maybe I was too naive at the time.

He did planned to "plant a seed" without my consent as what he thought a way to own me and to make his way clear from possible obstacles like (rejections) from my family and other guys. Thankfully it didn't work.

Thinking about how he planned to do all those things, how he tried to dominate me in a way making me feel like I wasn't enough, other jealousy-possessiveness-controlling issues, it won't work for me in the future.

**again this is personal taste, maybe for some, they like some possessiveness in their relationship (jealousy, etc), it's ok, like my ex who told me that he liked being in a possessive relationship (a little drama here and there - rollercoaster?) and my character is not like that. The problem is, sometimes the other person just wants you to submit into his/her idealism in an aggressive and forceful way.

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posted September 08, 2023 03:34 AM            

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Yes, he's asked me and I have done it. I have no problem with it at all. I'm very open-minded when it comes to sex. So it takes a lot to turn me off.

You were right about trying to be sensual. He's mentioned that he thinks kissing is sensual and I think he likes lingerie too. Sometimes he likes to cuddle. I'm not really the touchy-feely type. (I hate my Aquarius Moon) At first, it was awkward for me and I kind of pulled away. But now I'm more used to it and it feels more comfortable.

You said he has Moon in the 12th house. But it looks like it's in the 11th house. Or do you consider it to be in the 12th house because it's so close?

I did some research and I found info about his mother (it's public documents). And it seemed like in the past she had some psychological issues based on what I read.

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The reason I say Moon is in 12th is because with Libra Asc,Moon on Virgo would automatically be in the "Whole sign house" 12th house.

Yes. Sensuality can many times be a way of bridging those sexuality issues I.e. oral instead of full on penetration.. Sensual massages and "self-pleasure" instead of "wham,bam, thank you mam".

In the past definitions, the word "Sex" used to be a very broad word indeed. It used to encompass a lot of things I.e. oral play, mutual masturbation, frottage,suckling etc. But nowadays, if you are not putting 🍆 in 🍑, it's called "vanilla" or "soft".

And this puts men under a lot of presure to perform and have "wood" ready to go at the drop of the hat. The definition of "masculinity" has also included the idea that you have to perform like a porn star and have a 🍆 that is gigantic.

Its become so intimidating, that many men turn to porn. Porn doesn't care for size,porn doesn't make you feel bad about your "performance" or looks,porn doesn't talk about your "abilities" to others and porn doesn't require you to be ashamed or embarrassed about what you ACTUALLY like☝🏿

The downside to porn however is that you do become emotionally redundant or stunted. When you start to think that sex is the "be all" and "end all" of intimacy and why people come together etc. You will measure yourself relative to the porn stars you see. Believing that you really have nothing to offer by comparison.

That's when it starts to have a negative impact on your psyche. Making you believe that if you don't have the 'stuff' to perform with a real person, you might as well stay alone because you will NOT be loved.And there is somebody out there "better" than you -size, height, performance etc.🤷🏿‍♂️

I LOVE the fact that you are so open to explore with him. That is fantastic. I wish more women would open their minds up and not be so quick to label their men "gay"- which isn't derogatory btw, but it does contextually have the man attach all sorts of connotative meanings to the word that don't make him confident.

Not all men are macho. And not being macho ,doesn't mean they are gay. Ironically, I have found more macho men identifying as bisexual or flat out gay. This because (contrary to pop belief) the gay scene is VERY much a macho contest. Hence the issues within the community when it comes to fem gays. Gay people can be THE most homophobic to the latter because of worshipping the "masculine, macho" ideal☝🏿

Also try doing these sensual things in tight/confined spaces I.e. sneak a kiss in when in a lift, grab his butt and squeeze whilst walking through a passage, wearing pencil skirts that outline your butt etc.

There is something about Sat and liking "tight" spaces or lines. Even anal sex with you may appeal to him(the anus is a "tight space"). And ofcourse lingerie would appeal,this because of the the way lingerie "outlines" a woman's body i.e accentuate her butt, breasts etc.

Usually tight (Sat)fitting lingerie does the trick of maximum arousal because (As I said ) there is somethimg about Saturn and "tightness" - this whether tight spaces, lines, boundaries, enclosures, restrictions etc.

I was watching Sex and the City 2 the other day (where they go to AbuDabi) and Samantha's love interest mentioned something that I thought was VERY Ven-Sat and Sat-Mars to me.

He said that despite the conservative laws of the country, he felt most aroused each time he visited it.

This is once again Saturn's classic nature of being into spaces where there are restrictions or boundaries. And the idea of "breaking"them , can be so arousing. But the trick is to NEVER be caught. If the latter ,the game is over and its a "NO" for their image.

posted September 09, 2023 12:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
The reason I say Moon is in 12th is because with Libra Asc,Moon on Virgo would automatically be in the "Whole sign house" 12th house.

Yes. Sensuality can many times be a way of bridging those sexuality issues I.e. oral instead of full on penetration.. Sensual massages and "self-pleasure" instead of "wham,bam, thank you mam".

In the past definitions, the word "Sex" used to be a very broad word indeed. It used to encompass a lot of things I.e. oral play, mutual masturbation, frontage,suckling etc. But nowadays, if you are not putting 🍆 in 🍑, it's called "vanilla" or "soft".

And this puts men under a lot of presure to perform and have "wood" ready to go at the drop of the hat. The definition of "masculinity" has also included the idea that you have to perform like a porn star and have a 🍆 that is gigantic.

Its become so intimidating, that many men turn to porn. Porn doesn't care for size,porn doesn't make you feel bad about your "performance" or looks,porn doesn't talk about your "abilities" to others and porn doesn't require you to be ashamed or embarrassed about what you ACTUALLY like☝🏿

The downside to porn however is that you do become emotionally redundant or stunted. When you start to think that sex is the "be all" and "end all" of intimacy and why people come together etc. You will measure yourself relative to the porn stars you see. Believing thar you really have nothing to offer by comparison.

That's when it starts to have a negative impact on your psyche. Making you believe that if you don't have the 'stuff' to perform with a real person, you might as well stay alone becuase you will Not be loved.And there is somebody out "better" than you -size,height, performance etc.🤷🏿‍♂️

I LOVE the fact that you are so open to explore with him. That is fantastic. I wish nore women would open their minds up and not be so quick to label their men "gay"- which isn't derogatory btw, but it does contextually have the man attach all sorts of connotative meanings to the word that don't make him confident.

Not all men are macho. And not being macho ,doesn't mean they are gay. Ironically, I have found more macho men identifying as bisexual or flat out gay. This because (contrary to pop belief) the gay scene is VERY much a macho contest. Hence the issues within the community when it comes to get gays. Gay people cam be THE most homophobic to the latter because of worshipping the "masculine, macho" ideal☝🏿

Also try doing these sensual things in tight/confined spaces I.e. sneak a kiss in when in a lift, grab his butt and squeeze whilst walking through a passage, wearing pencil skirts that outline your butt etc.

There is something about Sat and liking "tight" spaces or lines. Even anal sex with you may appeal to him(the anus is a "tight spaces"). And ofcourse lingerie would appeal,this because of the the way lingerie "outlines" a woman's body i.e accentuate her butt, breasts etc.

Usually tight (Sat)fitting lingerie does the trick of maximum arousal becuase (As I said ) there is somethimg about Saturn and "tightness" - this whether tight spaces, lines, boundaries, enclosures, restrictions etc.

I was watching Sex and the City 2 the other day (where they go to AbuDabi) and Samantha's love interest mentioned something that I thought was VERY Ven-Sat and Sun-Mars to me.

He said that despite the conservative laws of the country, he felt most aroused each time he visited it.

This is once again Saturn's classic make of being into spaces where there are restrictions or boundaries. And the idea of "breaking"them , can be so arousing. But the trick is to NEVER be caught. If the latter ,the game is over and its now and for their image.

So yes,the more "restrictive" a place seems to be.The more aroused they can get. The more tight the outfit or well-tailored(girl's gotta breathe after all🤣 , the more attention they'll give it!🙏🏿

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Thank you for your input I appreciate it. What you've said makes a lot of sense. I also agree that women can be judgmental. Which is why a lot of people are afraid to share what they like. I see so many people saying a man is automatically gay if he likes that kind of play. Which is so strange to me this is why sexual compatibility is so important.

posted September 09, 2023 08:36 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Thank you for your input I appreciate it. What you've said makes a lot of sense. I also agree that women can be judgmental. Which is why a lot of people are afraid to share what they like. I see so many people saying a man is automatically gay if he likes that kind of play. Which is so strange to me this is why sexual compatibility is so important.

I have issues with finding someone who's compatible with me too. I've been told that I use my sexuality as a way to communicate. It bothered me for awhile but then I realized that there isn't anything wrong with how I am sexually. And that maybe me and that person just wasn't sexually compatible.

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Yes absolutely 🙏🏿. And thank you for reading through those awful typos. I edited the response. So if you read it again, it will make more sense than before 🤦🏿‍♂️

Sexual compatibility is very important to personal happiness and authentic compatibility.

posted September 14, 2023 03:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Yes absolutely 🙏🏿. And thank you for reading through those awful typos. I edited the response. So if you read it again, it will make more sense than before 🤦🏿‍♂️

Sexual compatibility is very important to personal happiness and authentic compatibility.

I just don't think I can be with anyone long-term if I can't be intimate with the partner in "kinky" ways that appeal to me. It's not possible 🙌🏿

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posted September 15, 2023 03:41 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Do you think it's possible that he could be bisexual?

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Hmmm...sometimes I think we can easily confuse someone's inability to give and receive love/affection, as a sign that they are not living as authentically as they want. Or are "hiding" their sexual libido under layers of secrecy.

Sometimes it could be that the person is indeed hiding and therefore that can affect their ability to be intimate.

But ime, I have found that the two are not always related. Just like losing weight or gaining muscle, doesn't a confident person make. If insecurities were there before the muscle gain or weight loss,they will be there afterwards. Perhaps even amplified? 🤷🏿‍♂️

I don't think a chart can tell sexual orientation. But as I said in another post,the chart can give insight into how comfortable the person is in their own skin and can receive/ give love. This regardless of the gender that the love is intended to be showered on to.

posted September 27, 2023 07:14 PM            

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What indicates this in a man's chart?

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Please keep in mind that I am a very new astrology amateur, but the first thing that also comes to mind for me is any Chiron action happening vis-a-vis Mars, Eros, etc. Apologies if someone already mentioned this and this comment is redundant!

posted September 28, 2023 08:50 AM            

Mars in Virgo

Mars in hard aspect to Chiron
Mars in hard aspect to Saturn
Mars in hard aspect to Pluto

This doesn’t mean the sex will be bad or that their insecurities will be apparent. Quite the contrary actually.

posted September 28, 2023 02:02 PM            

Though totally unrelated I saw an old film yesterday The Big Chill. It's an unusual hippy story but intimacy played a huge role in it.

I think they had group s3x or were swingers previous to a meet up, based on a funeral. These were Woodstock types. One character lent her husband to another woman and another character iir, I wasn't super focused on it yesterday, he had erectile dysfunction. The one character he might have been responsive to, a dancer, it spoke to me of the chiron in synastry. Like she was that certain ingredient he needed to bring him his ..

posted October 14, 2023 07:36 AM            

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Virgo influence, Neptune/Pisces anywhere in the chart or Cancer influence.

Virgos might find it awkward and uncomfortable and they are often insecure with their bodies even when they look good.

Neptune/Pisces are not the most confident people around and men with this influence might be very submissive in bed and prefer women that takes the ‘’lead’’ because of insecurity.

Cancers are shy and the men might prefer someone who is shy so he can ‘’man’’ up.

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Virgo and pisces are comfortable with sex tho. Its either understandable, healthy and natural (virgo) or romantic, etheral, delusional (pisces)

I think air signs would be too much in their head so gemini, libra and aqua it is

posted October 14, 2023 07:45 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Yeah I've been wondering about this. We met on a dating app and he knew what I looked like before we actually met in person. So I don't know why he would continue to have sex with me for this long if he's not attracted to me. He told me he wouldn't have sex with a woman he's not attracted to. I told him I didn't know why men had sex with women who they aren't attracted to. And he said he didn't know that was a thing. Does his chart show he might be lying about being attracted to me?
I will just ask him right out if he's actually attracted to me or not. I mean my Sun is in his 7th house but I don't know if that means attraction.

He told me he doesn't really watch porn and that he uses his imagination. But I'll ask him what kind he likes. Sexually I know for sure he's into male stimulation (if you know what I mean) this was something he was ashamed to admit. He said he has a high sex drive but he controls it (whatever that means). When we first met he told me he hadn't had sex in a long time. Says he doesn't want to ever get married again. He was married for three years and it needed in divorce. He hasn't exactly told me what happened. I think maybe she cheated on him. Because he told me he was sure that there was someone else. He doesn't want kids and doesn't want to live with anyone again. Also he said he doesn't like his neighbors he doesn't want to live around people.

He did say that he knows that he needs counseling to help him with communication.

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