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Topic: OMG! If you follow western astrology you may be off by 23 degrees
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PhoenixRising
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posted September 17, 2023 12:18 AM
  
No wonder, your analysis and observations are wrong.By now you all know that we all have been double crossed by our education system, government , medical establishments, NASA, church, and now I can say with certainty even astrology. Throw that trash away. Or keep it to do cafe astrology. If you are serious, study Vedic astrology which is very advanced and scientific. Also don't stop there, study how to plot Navamsa (9) chart and understand second half of subject life. Example, I had sun in 10th which is not great, but in the second half of my life, i experience sun in 5th energy which is great and what i needed most. Even better is if you get Stellarium software , installed locally and you see exact sign where the planets were when you were born and rectify even the Vedic charts. I really didn't had to , for the most part.
http://stellarium.org/
Many live a purposeless existence reacting to events , few study the mazzaroth and live consciously and thus die consciously too.
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PlutoWasHere
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posted September 17, 2023 12:43 AM
I’m glad Vedic Astrology works for you. But there are different styles of Astrology for a reason. Just because something works for you, doesn’t mean the other styles are trash. That’s a very biased take on Astrology but also on life in general. Different people have different needs.I use Astrology so I can get to know myself better and work on personal growth. Psychological Astrology works for me. The reasoning for not using constellations but a fixed position in the sky has to do with the seasons and their meaning for human development. Having different options to choose from is a good thing in this case. It allows you to find out what works for you and leads to more insight than a “one size fits all” approach. Let’s appreciate that. IP: Logged |
PhoenixRising
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posted September 17, 2023 12:54 AM
You may be the lucky one who escaped the double cross. I cannot imagine how an Australian can contemplate like you do for self realization and what tool they use tropical or sidereal. Most of the population of earth resided thousands years ago on the north half of the earth. Unfortunately Stellarium doesn't plot houses Tropical astrology is good for predicting season patterns. Point is if you are on the north half, do give it a try. It is amazing. No wonder, they say India was the last nation to be shutdown. Hence they have those knowledge in memory.
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PhoenixRising
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posted September 17, 2023 10:36 PM
BTW, I also learnt western astrologers trap you with magic.. Their charts are circle. And they draw the houses anti clockwise. That direction, suck energy out of you.In contrast Vedic astrology charts are square. And houses numbering corresponds to sun going clockwise. Clockwise gives life to humans and animals from the heavens above, while anti clockwise sucks life out of you. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere
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posted September 18, 2023 04:08 AM
I agree that India has an incredibly rich history and that there’s so much ancient wisdom we have lost. But our environment and society has changed a lot. Some of the wisdom can still be applicable but some doesn’t fit these modern times anymore. It’s out of context. We should feel free to use what still holds value and let go of what has passed. Cycles of destruction of the old and transformation into the new are natural, “panta rhei”.I do not feel the need for magic. I go with the flow and don’t resist change. If you feel connected with existence, you accept what is and work with the possibilities it offers you. No anger, no bitterness and no disappointment, just deep understanding. IP: Logged |
Librapurr
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posted September 18, 2023 01:16 PM
I see Vedic is depending on very precise birth time. What’s almost impossible to know for many people. Especially, considering that birth time certificate could be incorrect many ways.IP: Logged |
PhoenixRising
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posted September 18, 2023 02:10 PM
One can always rectify based on empirical evidences when time is not known.IP: Logged |
Librapurr
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posted September 18, 2023 02:35 PM
Not many actually do rectification. When I read a chart I often think the time might be incorrect. I’m not sure if it’s possible at all in Vedic to do charts of anybody who cannot find his birth time. Don’t tell me I need to rectify them all myself… Sometimes it could be easy to get suggested time, but some situations It could take a lot of researches. IP: Logged |
PhoenixRising
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posted September 18, 2023 02:56 PM
BTW, the hindus took astrology to the next level. Navamsa focusses on fortune which everyone cares for. But there are 108 navamsa like techniques for those who want to know more about themselves from other perspective.No wonder masses reject complexity and accepts simplicity  I haven't dabbled with Tarots . But it seems that is amazing as each card represents the constellation . May be it is easier for some to work with fingers and hands and bring in the cosmic energy.
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PhoenixRising
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posted September 18, 2023 03:10 PM
Interesting ... 23 = 23 cycles of the physical body bio rhythm.
Sept 23... They keep showing that in Hollywood movies . Origin from the magical withcraft holly tree 
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mee_chryssa
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posted September 18, 2023 03:49 PM
i dont think the sidereal works, ive tried it many times and the easiest way to prove it is the ASC because, for real now, you can’t change the appearance. Is the most obvious. After, the dignity of the planets changes. Again… didn’t check the box for me. I use mostly hellenistic and I learned alot from Vedic techniques, but I don’t use the Sidereal zodiac. They do count the houses counter clockwise. I dont know why u say they don’t. I would be careful with dismising the witchcraft in Vedic. They have a ritual for any problem. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted September 18, 2023 04:52 PM
Personally vedic works very well for me. The descriptions of Aquarius(4 planets there) did not quite fit me but once I took nakshatras into account they made every sense.IP: Logged |
Fromashell
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posted January 03, 2024 01:13 PM
You would be in connection with your higher self to resonate with your vedic chart. Western astrology is aligned with the Sun and the lower self while Vedic astrology is aligned with the stars, the Galactic Center and the higher self. Both are relevant within an Earthly existence but we should strive to connect with the higher self more in my opinion. I am feeling into my Vedic chart more and more these days.
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MoonMystic
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posted January 03, 2024 02:07 PM
OP,I agree that those you've mentioned do like to influence many, to convolute and tear away the origins of wisdoms of every age before the moder ones. We can find the most truth where the least popularity remains. Imo. So Sr is significant but there's some details in western that are still important. As well, Arabic parts are a lost art, many don't appreciate. I have witnessed much truth with those. Re life, death etc. I've not publicly spoken on.
I agree with Pluto, re all these styles of astrology are nicely used to create a full look @ourselves, each other etc.
As well I find it necessary to use tropical for the nodes plus draconic& helio help me see beyond my 3d version. As said ^ Our higher selves are moreso can be encapsulated in the Sr chart. I agree, this is one reason I use that chart majority of the time.
Using midpoint (in any style),progressed charts as well pull a closer look to individuals/couples and groups - in real-time. We're similar to cakes. We start out with ingredients and develop from there. So a nice cake can culminate into a masterpiece - or remain basic. (Less growth).Though this does mean we use lessons both good/bad to "become" our higher versions. Ascension is a peak spiritually, I'm seeing wedding cake tbh, in my mindseye.
Sr is the viewpoint from said location. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted January 21, 2024 10:05 AM
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PhoenixRising
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posted January 22, 2024 09:27 AM
I have found out why people of the Old testament used to live for several hundreds of years and at times thousand. Simple, the calendar back then was based on moon calendar. So you divide the quoted age in OT by 13 . Example Noah at the age of 950 should be read as Noah at the age of 950 divided by 13 approx 73 years (solar calendar we follow today).
Incidentally, by 713 bc almost all civilizations moved to a solar based calendar. So the age quoted from that point on is the correct age as we know know today.
Everyone realized by then the seasons which are clock work were our of whack when following a moon based calendar. Bad for harvesting by the farmers who relied spring and harvest pointers. Hence the switch. The mayans whose long count calendar was purely on moon cycles and very accurate was used to predict the next big event. Will do more deep later.
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