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cunning_strobe
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posted October 10, 2023 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cunning_strobe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've read both that this aspect means charm(not romantic, but social) and even popularity and awkwardness. What is the actual effect it produces? Or maybe it leads to awkwardly charming personalities?

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posted October 10, 2023 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diobrando13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this aspect and I'd say I'm charming... I thank the stars that I find it very easy to make friends and have admirers. Not sure about the charming-but-awkward - I do get away with a lot of things that may be awkward for other people, but mostly because I don't sweat it in the first place

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posted October 10, 2023 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have not noticed that Moon square Venus is a charm aspect... though I have noticed that the easier aspects (conjunction, sextile and trine) natives are quite charming.

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posted October 10, 2023 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frida     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know anyone with this aspect, but I have the opposition. I think people with hard Moon Venus aspects will try to please others to get their emotional needs met, until they mature and become more emotionally independent. Perhaps that's where the charm comes from - the natives have a strong need to get love and attention from others, and what better way to get it than honing and using your charm skills? I don't know if that's really the case, just a thought...
(I think people see me as charming, but there are many other factors)

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posted October 11, 2023 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by frida:
I don't know anyone with this aspect, but I have the opposition. I think people with hard Moon Venus aspects will try to please others to get their emotional needs met, until they mature and become more emotionally independent. Perhaps that's where the charm comes from - the natives have a strong need to get love and attention from others, and what better way to get it than honing and using your charm skills? I don't know if that's really the case, just a thought...
(I think people see me as charming, but there are many other factors)

This is how I see it too🤔.

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posted October 23, 2023 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 25, 2023 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm so glad I don't have this. Mommy self esteem issues, from my observations...and because of that...can't seem to be happy for others, hard to say nice things about people cause their mommy doesn't make them feel like they are doing good enough.

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posted October 25, 2023 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
100% agree Stawr about mommy issues

http://www.healthline.com/health/mommy-issues
Mommy issues in men

People usually apply the term “mommy issues” to men who display some of the following traits and behaviors:

• an expectation that romantic partners will provide more than a fair share of household labor or emotional support

• trust issues or difficulty showing vulnerability

• a strong need for affection and approval or difficulty showing affection or rapid shifts between the two

• “cold feet” when it comes to relationship commitment

• a need for maternal guidance when making decisions

• difficulty spending time with or discussing their mother

• relationship anxiety

• discomfort with intimacy

• extreme sensitivity to real or perceived criticism

• underdeveloped relationship boundaries

• a habit of dating people who share certain similarities with their mother

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posted October 25, 2023 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon conj. Venus and square give some feminine, maybe house caretaker qualities to men as I saw. First ones are more comfortable with it and like to be around women, the second is a more rough expression and try to reject and deny those qualities sometimes, could try to compensate engaging in more stereotypical masculine activities.

I would say it’s not popularity as they might be introverted, but some Venus and agreeable vibes what makes them comfortable and likable.

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posted October 29, 2023 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
“Moon discordant to Venus

Your habits may annoy others. You may have bad manners, bad breath or bad personal hygiene habits that irritate those around you. You can be lazy at times and you hate to get your hands dirty. You prefer other people doing the hard work while you sit around and reap the benefits or the glory. You know exactly how to tell people what they want to hear, regardless of whether it is really honest or not. You may have conflicting emotional desires and needs which complicate your personal life. Perhaps you are trying to please someone you care about so much so that you end up being some other person instead of yourself, becoming very unhappy in the process. You may have trouble figuring out just what you want in a relationship, a mother or a lover. If your needs for emotional satisfaction and love are not met, then overeating (especially sweets) can be a problem for you. You have a tendency anyway toward rich, sweet food and emotional imbalances set you to overeating as compensation for what you feel you are lacking. You are insecure and do not have a very high opinion of yourself. Perhaps you find yourself ugly or unattractive in some way, regardless of what the people around you tell you. You need to learn how to emotionally stand alone on your own two feet and to stand up for yourself and what you believe. You want and need the love of others in order to feel secure and if that love seems to be taken away, then you crumble. You are very warm and loving, but you must learn that you cannot possess anyone. We have all loved countless souls in all our previous incarnations here on earth and there is never a final farewell for love. You always are reunited with those you love. Anything to the contrary is an illusion.

Money goes out as fast as it comes in, sometimes faster. You have a tendency to be self-indulgent, over-extravagant and too desiring of luxury. You have the tendency to take the easy way out of things and to not stand up for your rights and needs. You are sensitive about your personal popularity. You may have an inferiority complex. The challenge is for you to develop the courage and learn how to voice your convictions. You have such a strong emotional need to be liked and accepted that you avoid making waves. By standing up for your personal convictions, you will build strength of character and will be free to be yourself. And this will make you a much happier person.“

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posted October 29, 2023 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diobrando13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eh, I wouldn’t say this is accurate, at least to me. *shrug* Maybe I have other aspects that balance it out. No mommy issues- I’m very close to my mother (daddy issues, on the other hand…). No to the bad hygiene, the lack of hard work, the fear of commitment, the overeating, the finding oneself ‘ugly’, lmao.

Although, in my own life I agree with issues showing vulnerability and definitely what Librapurr said about engaging in stereotypical masculine activities. (I paint and play piano, but I really looove sports, racing, and video games). But my closest friendships are with other women and it’s less of issues with my mom or wanting to date people like her/ more a fear of becoming a mother. Probably my greatest fear :3 Yes on being a people pleaser too.

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posted October 29, 2023 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturus90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It means many varying relationships probably

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posted November 15, 2023 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 19, 2023 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StrangeCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by arcturus90:
It means many varying relationships probably

It depends on whether this square has aspects to any of the outers; my husband has this on his MC and DC but his Venus is conjunct Saturn. We have been married for 22 years, together for 23 years.

For him, it only means that his marriage partner (me) cannot sit on her arse.

Culprits in varying affections include hard aspects to Uranus (love of excitement), Jupiter (love of many), even Pluto (love of drama).

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posted December 04, 2023 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 17, 2023 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vansio:
“Moon discordant to Venus

Your habits may annoy others. You may have bad manners, bad breath or bad personal hygiene habits that irritate those around you. You can be lazy at times and you hate to get your hands dirty. You prefer other people doing the hard work while you sit around and reap the benefits or the glory. You know exactly how to tell people what they want to hear, regardless of whether it is really honest or not. You may have conflicting emotional desires and needs which complicate your personal life. Perhaps you are trying to please someone you care about so much so that you end up being some other person instead of yourself, becoming very unhappy in the process. You may have trouble figuring out just what you want in a relationship, a mother or a lover. If your needs for emotional satisfaction and love are not met, then overeating (especially sweets) can be a problem for you. You have a tendency anyway toward rich, sweet food and emotional imbalances set you to overeating as compensation for what you feel you are lacking. You are insecure and do not have a very high opinion of yourself. Perhaps you find yourself ugly or unattractive in some way, regardless of what the people around you tell you. You need to learn how to emotionally stand alone on your own two feet and to stand up for yourself and what you believe. You want and need the love of others in order to feel secure and if that love seems to be taken away, then you crumble. You are very warm and loving, but you must learn that you cannot possess anyone. We have all loved countless souls in all our previous incarnations here on earth and there is never a final farewell for love. You always are reunited with those you love. Anything to the contrary is an illusion.

Money goes out as fast as it comes in, sometimes faster. You have a tendency to be self-indulgent, over-extravagant and too desiring of luxury. You have the tendency to take the easy way out of things and to not stand up for your rights and needs. You are sensitive about your personal popularity. You may have an inferiority complex. The challenge is for you to develop the courage and learn how to voice your convictions. You have such a strong emotional need to be liked and accepted that you avoid making waves. By standing up for your personal convictions, you will build strength of character and will be free to be yourself. And this will make you a much happier person.“


I don't have this aspect natally, but I have seen it play out countless times in real life and this is probably the best description I've seen so far.

People with this aspect definitely have a certain eye for beauty without them necessarily being "beautiful" themselves. Money is never really an issue either which further reinforces the "beauty". It's a lot easier to look clean, accomplished, and charming when you have the funds to do so. A good example of this aspect playing out would be the individual coming from a wealthy family, but always attracting/ wanting poor friends/associates or vice versa: poor family, rich friends. Either way, this would eventually cause some type of conflict between the two.

I also find these people phony or fake. This gets them a lot of admirers and job offers, but not too many points in the substance/ character department (which isn't all that important nowadays anyway). Very popular.. but in a shallow way. Lots of likes and reactions on social media.


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