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Topic: 5th House vs. 8th House: Which house actually represents sex?
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Rose06 Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Registered: Oct 2023
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posted November 13, 2023 11:08 AM
Traditionally, 5th house, represents procreation, therefor it would represent the act of procreation, aka, sex. However when you search on the web of 'what astrology house represents sex' it will always say the 8th house, when traditionally, the 8th house represents other people's assets, money, etc. opposite to the 2nd house which represents OUR own money. Also a lot of people hype up the 8th house to mean things related to Pluto or Scorpio, I study a lot of traditional astrology, and most of the time in trad astrology they don't associate the houses with the signs, so could that be where the meaning of the 8th house being this house of sexuality and intimacy stem from? Most likely. However, let me play fair, I don't think people are lying when they talk about their 8th house experiences, in natal and in synastry/composite, but if so then what could this all mean? Do both houses represent sex then? Here's my two cents, I've always thought that 5th house sex is casual sex, whilst 8th house is deeper more passionate and meaningful sex, and just deep intimacy in general, since it is a water house. Do you feel the same? Let's discuss, I'm very curious about what people think about this. IP: Logged |
StrangeCat Knowflake Posts: 106 From: Kangarooland Registered: Nov 2023
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posted November 13, 2023 04:18 PM
I’m also of the opinion that 5th house sex is casual sex while 8th house (which comes after the 7th house of partnership) is committed sex. That’s not to say that sex can’t be fun or casual (for the sake of release) in a committed relationship. Based on my own chart, I’m more comfortable with people sticking their planets in my 5th than in my 8th. IP: Logged |
implosions Knowflake Posts: 669 From: canada Registered: Aug 2017
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posted November 16, 2023 04:38 PM
Both! 5th is playful, (or what you consider playful, ie the difference between say a Capricorn 5th and a Leo 5th) and more about indulging in the pleasure of being seen and performing together. This can even mean shyness and how we confront those topics. Can sometimes see less long-term committment, but only if you're viewing it in short term perspective. Long term couples benefit a lot from indulging in their 5th house play style.8th house is more about the coming together style of intimacy. Uh, pun not necessarily intended lol -- It's the intensity of completion, for sure, but also how it feels to be tucked away together, to close all the doors and maybe turn off the proverbial lights, to just FEEL your partner and let the senses guide the process. 5th house intimacy can feel very intentional and conscious, each individual person meeting the Other Playmate. 8th house typically feels like it's Both Of You at Once, mirroring and sensing each other sometimes more than you're aware of yourself. (Of course depends, if you have Sun in the 8th house this can be blended, as consciousness is just ... Very Present in this arena. Which is why some folk wonder if trauma is present here as well, as consciousness here can mean it happened in formative years).
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rainbownsideatornado Knowflake Posts: 35 From: Longmont, Colorado, USA Registered: Sep 2023
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posted November 16, 2023 06:08 PM
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Here's my two cents, I've always thought that 5th house sex is casual sex, whilst 8th house is deeper more passionate and meaningful sex, and just deep intimacy in general, since it is a water house. [/B]
That's mostly been my understanding too. I think of 5th House sexuality as romantic, fun, procreative, playful - maybe the type of sex you'd have when first falling in love. And I think of 8th house sex as somehow deeper, or even perhaps transformational. A shade darker, perhaps - in a good way! One way I heard an astrologer describe the debts associated with the 8th house is that those debts can also be karmic - so karmic debt you owe someone or someone owes you. In that sense, then, it would make sense that 8th house sex could happen on a very deep level, with someone you've created a lot of karma with in this lifetime or lifetimes before. ------------------ "The ocean never misplaces even a single grain of sand." IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 8882 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 17, 2023 11:09 AM
I think its good when something is in 5th 7th and 8th house.The most important person has Jupiter in my 5th house, NN in my 7th and Neptune and Uranus in my 8th house maybe. Its my TF Ex husband had a stellilum in my 8th house (Lilith, Uranus, Neptune, NN) it was more about money than sex, if I could stand him I would of been financially set for life and not have to work. Rising in the 5th house. best dates I've had so far....IC in the 7th house. but the sex got boring fast and the lack of emotional support was destructive. TF actually got me to kiss him when I was married and had no plan of divorcing, I was at least contemplating it sometimes. IP: Logged |
Rose06 Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Registered: Oct 2023
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posted November 17, 2023 03:19 PM
Stawr, so you'd say 5th house is more prominent for you in terms of sex?IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 8882 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 19, 2023 02:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by Rose06: Stawr, so you'd say 5th house is more prominent for you in terms of sex?
It really seems like the combo of something being in 5th, 7th, and 8th are most important to me these days. Sometimes I don't think astrology can fully answer this and I'm no expert with my failed marriage...and the factor that not everyone who is married and stays married is even happy. and the best XXXX is not always a stable relationship. Especially learning about twin flames and soulmates...I still look to astrology to explain the attraction and connection though. I don't really get what a soulmate is though. But people talk about having one. I'm guessing it's one of those things where if you know you know, and you only know if you actually experience it. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 6266 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted November 19, 2023 06:21 PM
Kinky Taboo sex is 8th houseIP: Logged |
plutonianmenace Knowflake Posts: 799 From: Iowa Registered: Feb 2021
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posted November 22, 2023 10:41 AM
So as a Leo rising, my 5th house is Sag and 8th is Pisces. Both Jupiter ruled. What I have realized is that with Pisces, I feel this sense of protection or sharing something. Like they make me feel safe and protected. However, the passion so to say can go either way.With Sag women, the sex is quite passionate and brings out the best of us. Most of the women I have slept with have been Sags and it is always an intense moment with them. Come to find, I attract them quite often and have had moments where I have seen quite a few streaks of women who all have early to mid December birthdays. 5th house IMO is no strings attached sex. It is sex embodied as a form of arousal, fun, and freedom. I have had this type of sex with Sag women on holidays, tropical destinations, in club bathrooms, and usually had a lot of fun doing it. I have had moments where even if there is friction between me and a Sag woman, we sort it out through sex. I used to wonder why I draw in so many Sag women but now I know. IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 1160 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted November 22, 2023 01:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by plutonianmenace: So as a Leo rising, my 5th house is Sag and 8th is Pisces. Both Jupiter ruled. What I have realized is that with Pisces, I feel this sense of protection or sharing something. Like they make me feel safe and protected. However, the passion so to say can go either way.With Sag women, the sex is quite passionate and brings out the best of us. Most of the women I have slept with have been Sags and it is always an intense moment with them. Come to find, I attract them quite often and have had moments where I have seen quite a few streaks of women who all have early to mid December birthdays. 5th house IMO is no strings attached sex. It is sex embodied as a form of arousal, fun, and freedom. I have had this type of sex with Sag women on holidays, tropical destinations, in club bathrooms, and usually had a lot of fun doing it. I have had moments where even if there is friction between me and a Sag woman, we sort it out through sex. I used to wonder why I draw in so many Sag women but now I know.
it's because you have Mars in Gemini and chances are more than 50% that the Sagg women u dated had Venus in Sagittarius also and it's opposite their Venus, that's a strong physical attraction. quote: Originally posted by plutonianmenace: we sort it out through sex.
lool that's exactly what the opp does.IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10511 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted November 24, 2023 04:04 AM
I would say it's house 5. My premise is based off of the notion that the 5th house is pleasurable activities. And sex(for the most part) is supposed to be pleasurable.However,the attitude towards pleasurable activities (including sex) will depend on the planet/s there for each chart. I have noticed that Saturn in 5th house natives find it hard to relax. So even the activity related to something that is deemed to be pleasurable (like sex) will be seen as tough or anxiety inducing. Some may have long-standing trauma associated with sex I.e. childhood rape/sexual violence that has them associate sex with pain. Therefore they may restrict (Sat) their involvement in it , and not see it as a "pleasurable" activity. Or deem it a violent act(Mars in 5th) Others may have sexuality hangups, warped views and oppression issues when it comes to what they deem as "pleasurable".This whether it's strict religious upbringing or social conditioning etc. So the "pleasure" they get or want to experience via sex has deep fears and inhibitions (Saturn) attached to it I.e. fear being judged as "gay" if they (Male) likes anal sex-either as the "giver" or "receptor" , maybe there is the love inserting objects into the sexual object in an abrasive manner? But still deriving pleasure from that? etc. Sat,Mars can be especially challenging for the native when in house 5.Pleasure (5th) has an association with discomfort/ pain (Mars/Saturn). There is often self judgement / reprimand that is projected on to others,that makes sex a not-so satisfying experience I.e. "what if I tell them my kinks and they think me a pervert?" Etc. So one may restrict expressing themselves and not fully experience pleasure in sex. Jupiter is a generous energy. So when associated with the 5th house,it's a "giver". It will do a lot of giving as an expression of pleasure I.e. gift giving, taking care of the mate, being gentle and patient with the mate,not overtly sexual but understanding and patient with them etc. Mars is more acquisition centred energy. So when associated with the 5th house of pleasure,it's expression of pleasure is to "get" for itself. As such,It can be aggressive/forceful, self gratifying and direct/overtly sexual. Moon is shy energy. It often expects the other party to "sense" it's needs as it communicates intuitively, is indirect, romantic ,changeable and tends towards being more mood/ emotion centred when it comes to pleasure I.e. what was pleasurable an hour ago, is not pleasurable now.🤷🏿♂️ Since the 8th house is about the revelation of hidden things OR insight into the obscure/unknown. So sex (although an area of much interest) is also an area of mystery and mysticism i.e. sex as a conduit to otherworldly dimensions, sex as a catalyst to revealing childhood/pre adult wounds,sex as a spiritual realization towards greater conscious awareness of self etc. Similarly,planets in the 8th would then dictate how open/closed the native is to "deeper intimacy exploration".The latter sounds very serious indeed because it means digging deep within. A STRONGLY psychological tint. Mars in 8th is on one hand good. The native likely throws themselves "all in "into these endeavours. On the other hand ofcourse,is that the digging will probably never stop. Addiction to "crisis" driven intimacy OR "dangerous" sex may stimulate one. One thinks the more "edgy" , the better. Adrenaline pumping sex can be a thing. Venus in 8th can be more open to such experiences.Seeing erotica and similar stuff as a gateway to self understanding and exploration. Their approach is protracted,the experience being more "sensually focused" etc. I don't see the 8th house as "fun". But I do see it as a revelation. Many times uncomfortable , tear-jerking and even downright terrifying. When Saturn is there, one can close it off or simply suppress the very idea of revealing "what lies beneath ". It is also possible that one may discover that they have "fears" or "debilitating " beliefs surrounding vulnerability and trust *which are essential for sexual intimacy* Damne!! This was an essay🤣. Sorry folks. Will come back to edit later. IP: Logged | |