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Topic: Astrology & Manifestation
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Rose06 Knowflake Posts: 76 From: Registered: Oct 2023
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posted November 15, 2023 04:48 PM
This just came to mind. I've seen in recent times, manifestation getting really popular, do you believe in it? And do you think it trumps astrology in that, astrology is never set in stone type of thing and at the end of the day you can create your own reality? And that you shouldn't be too reliant on astrology because of that? I'm just curious on people's thoughts on that. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 197273 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2023 07:42 PM
Astrology really doesn't "cause" anything. However, astrology can be a helpful tool, since transits and synastries, as just two examples, can provide valuable insight. As above, so below. As someone who believes in manifestation and the LOA, one's thoughts creating one's reality is really mutually exclusive from astrology, IMHO. People create their reality irrespective of astrology, and they do so either intentionally or unknowingly, but we are all responsible for our own lives. Those who have tried LOA and failed really don't understand how LOA works. I call it the Negative Law of Attraction. It's very tricky. People attract what they DON'T want. I recently received a fortune cookie that says: "Never underestimate your ability to create your own reality." Quite! Most fortune cookies are rarely so profound. IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 9350 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 17, 2023 02:17 PM
GREAT topic. I am into both!! I also do witchcraft Dabble in feng shui in tune with my 6th sense and worship Satan I have enough spirit animals to have a zoo I just got back into making visions of my goals on microsoft with clipart. I play music and scroll try to do it twice a day and do a new one every month until my life gets too exciting. I see a difference when I do it. Firm believer in astrology...it just gave me answers in a way that I wasn't getting from my Christian upbringing. I've been sexually frustrated for sometime...but the NN is about to exactly sextile my Mars. I was very close to getting laid last week but I fell off a sex swing and got a concussion. Also Chiron is squaring my Neptune Capricorn 8th house. I've read that this can make people venerable to spiritual attack. I forgot when Chiron goes direct but I've learned a lot about this and how to deal with it better. And how to fight back. I am pro anything that gives people an outlet and raises their vibration. I have been doing a floor wash that I whooped, up. I've been getting physic messages/signs that certain rooms in the house have bad energy. I am really feeling a turn around very recently compared to a year ago. Pluto is done squaring my sun after all. Over the hump with NN squaring my Saturn. (still is) Feeling some relief after these retrogrades. I am willing to answer questions about anything. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 29434 From: Here Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 17, 2023 02:27 PM
I don't believe in it, in the way that it's been pushed. Where you have to be totally at peace, and happy, etc. That if you don't get something, it's all your fault, because you weren't living at the right vibration. There's a thread in another forum, where someone got through to an old friend, when she didn't have their number, she went outside and called out to this person, and he contacted her. Out of the blue. IP: Logged |
Rose06 Knowflake Posts: 76 From: Registered: Oct 2023
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posted November 17, 2023 03:08 PM
I don't believe in that type of manifestation either, where you have to always be high vibration and basically always be happy 24/7 or whatever to get something.I've found a new section of the manifestation community that's called Law of Assumption, so not the Law of Attraction. They get their teachings from Neville Goddard and I've tested it out myself and it does work honestly, have gotten some things from it. It's not hard to do at all compared to Law of Attraction, it's actually very effortless. Seen others have really good success with it too, you should look at the subreddit for the success stories, it's really nice and insightful! Knowing about the Law of Assumption, made me think about how I sometimes tend to rely on astrology a bit too much, but astrology is just so damn interesting, and it does help me kind of realize a lot of things, whether that's about myself or others. But I also have to remind myself that, nothing has to be set in stone if I don't want it to be you know?  IP: Logged |
Rose06 Knowflake Posts: 76 From: Registered: Oct 2023
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posted November 17, 2023 03:13 PM
And wow, Stawr that's really interesting. I'm happy that Astrology could help you find answers, same! Astrology helped me find out a lot about why others specifically are the way they are, since most people aren't as 'deep' into astrology as us I guess, hehe, and so they act out their natal chart by design.It's helped me understand myself and others better :') IP: Logged |
StrangeCat Knowflake Posts: 140 From: Kangarooland Registered: Nov 2023
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posted November 17, 2023 05:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by Rose06: And wow, Stawr that's really interesting. I'm happy that Astrology could help you find answers, same! Astrology helped me find out a lot about why others specifically are the way they are, since most people aren't as 'deep' into astrology as us I guess, hehe, and so they act out their natal chart by design.It's helped me understand myself and others better :')
It takes a conscious effort not to act out your natal signature even when you are decades into astrology.
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StrangeCat Knowflake Posts: 140 From: Kangarooland Registered: Nov 2023
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posted November 17, 2023 05:06 PM
I agree with Randall re: positive and negative manifestation. Anything we put our emotions in, we also turn our mind to. Certainly negative emotions have a lot more charge than positive ones, which is why you don’t hear that many people manifesting lottery wins but hear of people “having a bad gut feeling” that eventuates. Then again astrology doesn’t make things happen; it only shows what could happen in this area of your life if you persist the way you do. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 29434 From: Here Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 17, 2023 05:24 PM
I’ve had too many things happen, that I never expected. I didn’t fear them, they happened anyway. I have experienced some precognition, like something that happened when I was a teenager. Or when my mum died. We thought she was doing well, and finally felt some relief. We took part of the afternoon to visit a few stores that we hadn’t been to in a month. Dad dropped me off at home, saying the dogs had been alone for too long, and I said I thought I should be at the hospital. He insisted I go home, and he would go on to the hospital. I called, after he left, and told him I thought I should go too. He left the hospital at 10pm, and got about an hour of sleep, before they called and said she was gone. They were still trying to bring her back, but her aneurysm had burst. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 29434 From: Here Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 17, 2023 06:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Astrology really doesn't "cause" anything. However, astrology can be a helpful tool, since transits and synastries, as just two examples, can provide valuable insight. As above, so below. As someone who believes in manifestation and the LOA, one's thoughts creating one's reality is really mutually exclusive from astrology, IMHO. People create their reality irrespective of astrology, and they do so either intentionally or unknowingly, but we are all responsible for our own lives. Those who have tried LOA and failed really don't understand how LOA works. I call it the Negative Law of Attraction. It's very tricky. People attract what they DON'T want. I recently received a fortune cookie that says: "Never underestimate your ability to create your own reality." Quite! Most fortune cookies are rarely so profound.
People aren’t responsible for all health conditions, violence they experience, etc. but I’m not going to argue with you here, and derail the thread. IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 9350 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 17, 2023 09:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I don't believe in it, in the way that it's been pushed. Where you have to be totally at peace, and happy, etc. That if you don't get something, it's all your fault, because you weren't living at the right vibration. There's a thread in another forum, where someone got through to an old friend, when she didn't have their number, she went outside and called out to this person, and he contacted her. Out of the blue.
Ugh yeah I've never read the book I did watch the documentary. But I'm all about the vision boards, being mindful of the environment, and get rid of anything that is not in align with your peace and or ambitions. (like gifts from people you don't like or pictures or malicious people in your home etc) The way I see it, if you like/want something and it seems to just be difficult to receive currently what do you have to loose making a vision board!? BUT GOSH I SEE where you are coming from with the just think more positive and this would not be happening to you. Anyone with that attitude must have a ridiculous amount of privilege. Like maybe do not ask people if they have tried thinking more positive if they are going through something you have never had to experience. I've told my sister to go to Detroit and tell people they should just think more positive. In my experience somethings I get right away and other things I takes a decade. IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 9350 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 17, 2023 09:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by Rose06: I don't believe in that type of manifestation either, where you have to always be high vibration and basically always be happy 24/7 or whatever to get something.I've found a new section of the manifestation community that's called Law of Assumption, so not the Law of Attraction. They get their teachings from Neville Goddard and I've tested it out myself and it does work honestly, have gotten some things from it. It's not hard to do at all compared to Law of Attraction, it's actually very effortless. Seen others have really good success with it too, you should look at the subreddit for the success stories, it's really nice and insightful! Knowing about the Law of Assumption, made me think about how I sometimes tend to rely on astrology a bit too much, but astrology is just so damn interesting, and it does help me kind of realize a lot of things, whether that's about myself or others. But I also have to remind myself that, nothing has to be set in stone if I don't want it to be you know? 
I've accumulated so many other things to get answers now besides astrology. But sometimes I will be like "seriously what is going on?" Tonight will be interesting because the moon will cojunct pluto. and there is a sun mars cazimi again sextiling it. A lot of neat stuff in the late 20 degress. I wont spill too much but I have Saturn Capricorn 24 degrees house 9. I've never seen the 9th house as a spiritual house until lately....probably because I have this in Saturn. LOL and I'm 33 now. IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 9350 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 17, 2023 10:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by Rose06: And wow, Stawr that's really interesting. I'm happy that Astrology could help you find answers, same! Astrology helped me find out a lot about why others specifically are the way they are, since most people aren't as 'deep' into astrology as us I guess, hehe, and so they act out their natal chart by design.It's helped me understand myself and others better :')
I just happened to get a better job offer when NN is sextiling my 10th house mars. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 197273 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 18, 2023 10:04 AM
LOA isn't about being happy all the time. It's about tipping the scales at 51 percent. We all create our experiences, whether we choose to believe it or not. It is much more nuanced than that, but within those nuances we have the power to completely change our lives. As just one example, gratitude attracts more things to be grateful for. Choose a day, look for those things that you are grateful for, and mentally say thank you. Watch the blessings increase. IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 9350 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 19, 2023 11:30 AM
Being happy all the time sounds like toxic positivity, and would probably make you feel worse for having bad feelings. IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 9350 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 19, 2023 11:36 AM
TF told me to make money part of my manifestation so that has been added to my clipart vision board. He also helped me get a better job, and gave me a lot of messages that job I was trying to stick it out at was way too toxic and I need to hurry up and get out of there IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 9350 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 19, 2023 02:17 PM
I bathed in money coin leafs. My witchcraft is becoming a bit more intuition based. Wondered why I was called to use those in my bath...but I ended up getting a job that is "easier" and pays more. And actually gives me retirement and health insurance right away. Like I got called to show up. I had no makeup on, and my sports bra was sticking out of my top. I got offered the job on the spot. I also got a message that I needed to do my hair I thought that was a bit much but as I was about to drop stuff off at my other new job that place called me back. It's weird and awesome how I was led to this other job, I basically got it by applying for another job. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 197273 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 19, 2023 04:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by Stawr: I bathed in money coin leafs. My witchcraft is becoming a bit more intuition based. Wondered why I was called to use those in my bath...but I ended up getting a job that is "easier" and pays more. And actually gives me retirement and health insurance right away. Like I got called to show up. I had no makeup on, and my sports bra was sticking out of my top. I got offered the job on the spot. I also got a message that I needed to do my hair I thought that was a bit much but as I was about to drop stuff off at my other new job that place called me back. It's weird and awesome how I was led to this other job, I basically got it by applying for another job.
Awesome! IP: Logged |
GoldenSword Knowflake Posts: 317 From: ⚜ Registered: May 2023
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posted November 21, 2023 03:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Astrology really doesn't "cause" anything. However, astrology can be a helpful tool, since transits and synastries, as just two examples, can provide valuable insight. As above, so below. As someone who believes in manifestation and the LOA, one's thoughts creating one's reality is really mutually exclusive from astrology, IMHO. People create their reality irrespective of astrology, and they do so either intentionally or unknowingly, but we are all responsible for our own lives. Those who have tried LOA and failed really don't understand how LOA works. I call it the Negative Law of Attraction. It's very tricky. People attract what they DON'T want. I recently received a fortune cookie that says: "Never underestimate your ability to create your own reality." Quite! Most fortune cookies are rarely so profound.
That's how i see it too, I believe in free will. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 197273 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 06, 2023 04:17 PM
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Stawr Moderator Posts: 9350 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 16, 2023 10:51 AM
I do think at times we need to be shown what we need and not what we think we need. I was going through that since the summer.It was that stinkin NN square Saturn transit. I have my Saturn in Capricorn. Capricorn is very goal oriented will work very hard and have a lot of discipline to accomplish them. But life can be more complicated than that...though a lot of people are brought up to believe that you can get and do whatever you want if you just work hard enough. It's not always the case. After being over the hump with this transit...it is starting to feel like things can be MY IDEA again. I don't know what other's experiences are having NN square their Saturn...but I would sum mine up by saying it will all work out as long as it's not my idea. Not to mention Eris is in the late degree of Aries. Pluto in Capricorn in the late degrees too. It's been a lot. I've accomplished great things...but it can also all fall to **** just like that. Sometimes it really doesn't matter how you try and that can be spiritually humbling I guess. I finally got to do some retail therapy. I haven't since the summer. I got the last garnet ring at costco that I have been eyeballing for months. I then went to my local jewelry shop to get it to fit my finger. And they have their gem candle holders back! I got a rose quartz one. I might start trying some travel plans again. I've learned to be less FML about living with my parents. (Mainly because they have a great property to do witch craft on) I might try revisiting making vacation plans happen. In the winter/fall season I like to buy myself flowers to uplift my spirits. But in the spring and summer I will utilize what we have on the property. (daffodils, and snowdrops) If I have the time I will incorporate them into my witchcraft...let them dry before they wilt/rot. Or use them in a spell while fresh. It is not good for my brain to see them wilt and die in the vase. I got a festive bouquet at costco. White flowers with past of pine branches in it with pine cones. Good festive boosting for this time of year. This time of the year is hard. Family stuff just isn't the same anymore...and sort of dreadful. IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 9350 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 23, 2024 09:39 AM
I am getting into planetary days and hours. I did gratitude rituals on Sundays and Thursdays. Because they are ruled by Jupiter and the sun. I was extra spicy yesterday and did it during the hour of Jupiter. I do believe though sometimes with some transits like Saturn, Pluto, and Uranus “if you try to hide under the bed, the bed will break” but I like to do energy work almost everyday. I am really digging making my energy work seasonal/celestial. Like doing gratitude and manifesting during Sagittarius with a bonus of Mercury being in Sagittarius too. This year I have a lot of good challenging and nutral things going on with all Jupiter and 9th house related things. I have been doing abundance ritual baths. I took one last night. I’ve even been making abundance tea. IP: Logged |