posted November 25, 2023 10:50 AM            

So let's say one sibling has their moon in Aquarius, and they view their mother as maybe not the most emotionally available kind, but another sibling has their moon in Cancer, so they view the mother as emotional and moody or caring and nurturing. Even if the mother is doing nothing different, her two children, the siblings, will view her actions different?

posted November 25, 2023 10:43 PM            

Cancer Moon ma (to note, she has lilith on the moon as well).

Decade+ gap between the first cancer moon kid and the next gemini moon (myself), which is funny as her sun is gemini.

It's pretty on the nose. Cancer seems to be overly attached but also some enmeshment.

Gemini is sometimes too 'friendly' when young rather than parental/child, but overall good mental connection.

Virgo is deeply loving but also very nitpicky, lol.

Aquarius is a whole galaxy out/different than the last kids but also the most loved in some ways lol.

It's a grab bag.

posted November 25, 2023 10:57 PM            

We both thought she was on the phone too much. We would be watching a movie, the phone would ring, and she'd pick it up. If we were doing anything else together, same thing. When my sister was getting ready to go out with her, it was almost time to go, and Skype rang on her computer. She answered, and sat chatting. It was something she was working on, before she got really sick.

posted November 25, 2023 11:38 PM            

Whenever my parents bring up a past moment from our childhood and it involves her she points out how unsupportive or draconian they were.

The topic of her first child came up...Then she reminded my parents how they threatened to kick her out because she got pregnant.

As an Aries moon....I saw my parents as inept, overbearing, and negligent.

I dealt with the negative side of dealing with two Cancer parents (mom & dad) not the positives.

I've gotten a bit older and realized there's no point in staying mad at them, there going to die soon anyway.

But I tell them...it's because of both of you I work in the tech field. "You've trained me to always expect something to go wrong to which I have no control over then to come up with a solution or some kind of work around".

posted November 26, 2023 03:07 AM            

I am the first born and after me is my sister. We generally have a similar view of Mom I.e. protective, nurturing to the point of smothering, can be meddlesome but good intentions overall.

posted November 26, 2023 04:54 PM            

I have a Leo Moon in 10th, part of a stellium that starts with Merc and ends with Saturn. My Sun and Moon are in mutual reception. Moon also squares Uranus conjunct my AC, sextiles Pluto in 12th, trines Neptune in 2nd. To say her influence in my life is writ large is an understatement of the greatest degree. While there is a consensus that I look like my father, as I age, I see her more and more often in the mirror.

Notice the Moon Saturn aspects for the both of us? My son has that too. He has Moon in Taurus opposite Saturn. He thinks I’m the best thing since sliced bread.

Moon Saturn loves routine. Looking at us and talking to us, you could never tell that all 3 of us have Aspergers. After all, our love of routine is only a subset of our overall personality; we have gone to mainstream schools with no curriculum adjustment or accomodation and thrived. Apart from my son who is only almost 10 (who taught himself to read at 2 years and 4 months), my brother and I have both been to a Group of 8 (the equivalent of a US Ivy League uni), we have jobs, we married, we have friends (I’m more of an extrovert so have many more friends than he)…

I also grew up in an era where there was less medicalisation of behavioural traits. Basically there was a vacuum of knowledge where diagnosis now sits.

posted November 26, 2023 08:51 PM            

But I only notice this with the females. When I get to know a relationship with an Aries moon child. I realize I don't have it so bad with my mom.

A lot of 'nothing you do will ever be good enough.'

My one friend...some examples. Her mom text her when I got margaritas with her and our two other female friends....that a good Christian wife should be at home with her husband, and not drinking margaritas with girlfriends.
Tells her she does not cook and clean enough for her husband
bullies her about her weight
She has Cancer Sun Aries moon-my friend

Ex sister in law
*would seethe if her mom gave me validation
*did not like her now husband constantly encouraged her to be with someone else. This guy is beyond amazing. Washes dishes after she cooks, wants everyone to feel included, helps the old people in the family. Like ex SIL's personality would probably be worse if it wasn't for him. ---actually she does not get along with her MIL...and oh yes...This MIL would dig at her even more and talk about how great I am.
*also bullied her about her weight, and would give me clothes that she didn't want anymore that she could not fit into.

posted November 26, 2023 10:51 PM            

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Originally posted by StrangeCat:
My brother has Moon conjunct Venus in Cancer in 7th square Saturn in 10th. He is close to our mother, although at times I can only presuming that he feels smothered, as evidenced by him avoiding her for close to a decade before he had a kid of his own.

I have a Leo Moon in 10th, part of a stellium that starts with Merc and ends with Saturn. My Sun and Moon are in mutual reception. Moon also squares Uranus conjunct my AC, sextiles Pluto in 12th, trines Neptune in 2nd. To say her influence in my life is writ large is an understatement of the greatest degree. While there is a consensus that I look like my father, as I age, I see her more and more often in the mirror.

Notice the Moon Saturn aspects for the both of us? My son has that too. He has Moon in Taurus opposite Saturn. He thinks I’m the best thing since sliced bread.

Moon Saturn loves routine. Looking at us and talking to us, you could never tell that all 3 of us have Aspergers. After all, our love of routine is only a subset of our overall personality; we have gone to mainstream schools with no curriculum adjustment or accomodation and thrived. Apart from my son who is only almost 10 (who taught himself to read at 2 years and 4 months), my brother and I have both been to a Group of 8 (the equivalent of a US Ivy League uni), we have jobs, we married, we have friends (I’m more of an extrovert so have many more friends than he)…

I also grew up in an era where there was less medicalisation of behavioural traits. Basically there was a vacuum of knowledge where diagnosis now sits.

Maybe it’s our Moons that show how our mother raised us, but also it shows our propensity to be “medicalised.” I have no doubt that at least 3/4 of Autistics require intervention to function in an NT world.

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I forgot to answer the question about my relationship with my mother. 😬😅 First up, I would describe it as a “complex friendship” (Moon sextile Pluto in Libra 12th); I was her chosen person to offload her and her family secrets too. She was a disciplinarian and a hard worker (Moon in rolling conjunction to Saturn) who could be altruistic (square Uranus) and idealistic (trine Neptune) at the same time. She could be charming (Moon in Leo conjunct Merc and Venus Saturn) to outsiders (in my 10th), she could be larger than life.

Our relationship was never conventional; she didn’t want more children when she had me to please my father. She disliked children on the whole. In my childhood and young adulthood, she competed with me for my father’s affection and resources. Hence, why I say our relationship is complex.

posted November 27, 2023 12:04 AM            

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Originally posted by StrangeCat:
My brother has Moon conjunct Venus in Cancer in 7th square Saturn in 10th. He is close to our mother, although at times I can only presuming that he feels smothered, as evidenced by him avoiding her for close to a decade before he had a kid of his own.

I have a Leo Moon in 10th, part of a stellium that starts with Merc and ends with Saturn. My Sun and Moon are in mutual reception. Moon also squares Uranus conjunct my AC, sextiles Pluto in 12th, trines Neptune in 2nd. To say her influence in my life is writ large is an understatement of the greatest degree. While there is a consensus that I look like my father, as I age, I see her more and more often in the mirror.

Notice the Moon Saturn aspects for the both of us? My son has that too. He has Moon in Taurus opposite Saturn. He thinks I’m the best thing since sliced bread.

Moon Saturn loves routine. Looking at us and talking to us, you could never tell that all 3 of us have Aspergers. After all, our love of routine is only a subset of our overall personality; we have gone to mainstream schools with no curriculum adjustment or accomodation and thrived. Apart from my son who is only almost 10 (who taught himself to read at 2 years and 4 months), my brother and I have both been to a Group of 8 (the equivalent of a US Ivy League uni), we have jobs, we married, we have friends (I’m more of an extrovert so have many more friends than he)…

I also grew up in an era where there was less medicalisation of behavioural traits. Basically there was a vacuum of knowledge where diagnosis now sits.

Maybe it’s our Moons that show how our mother raised us, but also it shows our propensity to be “medicalised.” I have no doubt that at least 3/4 of Autistics require intervention to function in an NT world.

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I was diagnosed with Aspergers as well, I graduated from one of the top 10 universities in Canada for Computer Science.

My issue with my parents is they whould never let me pursue what I really wanted. I'd have to fight my parents or figure out how to do it myself!!!

Dad had a prove it first attitude, my Mom was a stingy insecure Cancer...the more she saved and less she spent on the family the more secure she felt.

Now on the surface you whouldn't be able to tell me from the others. But if you pay attention I think my traits come out...

I know my boss is going to ask me tomorrow why I didn't ask or say anything in some of the meetings?. To which I try to explain to him it wasn't the right time and place!!.

I tend to observe the problem first then put together a solution. He wants me to just charge in there.

From my experience the people that work in tech...charge right in there talk a lot about themselves aren't the guys you want to be around.

posted November 27, 2023 05:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
Wow that is so interesting what everyone put for their relationships w/ moms and Aries moon.
It seems like the worst place to have a moon sign in relation to a mom! Saying this as a Scorpio moon.

But I only notice this with the females. When I get to know a relationship with an Aries moon child. I realize I don't have it so bad with my mom.

A lot of 'nothing you do will ever be good enough.'

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I would dispute that "But I only notice this with the females. When I get to know a relationship with an Aries moon child. I realize I don't have it so bad with my mom."

Stawr, a lot depends on aspects that make planets to the moon. If an Aries moon is healthy and has no heavy squares from major planets or signs (especially Capricorn or Cancer), it's a great moon sign to have and has saved me many times. The combination of Cancer (or Capricorn) and Aries is particularly challenging. One of the most toxic personalities I can think of now had a strong Cancer-Aries aspect in his chart. It is Robert Durst (Aries Sun - Cancer Moon). The energies just do not flow in this combination. With Cancer or Capricorn, it is as if the individual has intense feelings but cannot express or channel them adequately.

I have an Aries moon and Aries is also the strongest sign in my entire chart according to Astrotheme's diagram. Emotions come and go quickly with the Aries moon. Anger, but also joy and enthusiasm! The good thing about an Aries moon is that it is not vengeful and can let go of negative feelings as quickly as they come. A healthy Aries Moon, like the other two Fire Moons, can express feelings freely. If we don't like something you do or say, we'll let you know. Unless there are other aspects, an Aries Moon doesn't like intrigue or secrecy. It's also the sign of high individualism, bravery, and of course competition.

I experienced my mother as a self-confident person who taught me to be independent from an early age. She wanted me to know how to assert myself and not always hang on her coat-tail. My mother wasn't always able to give me as a child enough emotional attention because she was busy and had to earn a living. This may explain why I can have an initial attitude of resistance and competition toward others

The Scorpio moon is a whole different chapter. The Scorpio moon is so emotionally changeable and volatile that they need psychologically stable partners from whom they know exactly what to expect. You have no idea how many Scorpio Moons I've seen over the years in happy relationships with Taurus sun's! In fact, Taurus is the most predictable sun sign I can think of. In my opinion, have Scorpio moons a deep fear of being hurt or abandoned. Trust and emotional understanding really should be the most important thing in their relationships.

I have seen Scorpio moons that have a tendency to be subtly provocative even as a child. Their emotions are already very strong in childhood. Disagreements between parents won't go unnoticed by them. A child with this placement longs for recognition and acceptance and secretly fears rejection by others. This results in a pronounced ambition. Highly ambitious goals are therefore consistently pursued and they suffer from not being able to fulfil the demands and expectations placed on them. I have to admit, that their ability to accept defeat is considerable.

From what I've observed there is either a very deep attachment to the mother or alienation. It's that black and white but nothing in between. Scorpio moon children might experience mother as extremely consistent and forceful or, on the contrary, as weak. Where the Scorpio moon person cannot be very deeply connected with the mother, alienation can become apparent. I have also met Scorpio moons whose deep emotions as children were in some way devalued as too dramatic or they were given the impression that they were just imagining it all so that these children learn to hide their intense inner life early in life.

posted November 27, 2023 06:05 AM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
I was diagnosed with Aspergers as well, I graduated from one of the top 10 universities in Canada for Computer Science.

My issue with my parents is they whould never let me pursue what I really wanted. I'd have to fight my parents or figure out how to do it myself!!!

Dad had a prove it first attitude, my Mom was a stingy insecure Cancer...the more she saved and less she spent on the family the more secure she felt.

Now on the surface you whouldn't be able to tell me from the others. But if you pay attention I think my traits come out...

I know my boss is going to ask me tomorrow why I didn't ask or say anything in some of the meetings?. To which I try to explain to him it wasn't the right time and place!!.

I tend to observe the problem first then put together a solution. He wants me to just charge in there.

From my experience the people that work in tech...charge right in there talk a lot about themselves aren't the guys you want to be around.

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This has a lot to do with Capricorn Rising and other aspects. You also have moon inconjunct Saturn in Scorpio. I would take a look at this aspect. It could be the culprit for some difficulties with your parents and the challenges you have had to overcome but is often overlooked.

posted November 27, 2023 10:34 AM            

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Originally posted by rockwell:
The 7th house typically tells us how someone sees the world. Just take the negative side of the 7th house sign and you will know. A Capricorn Rising will see others as "stingy insecure", a Leo Rising may think that people are too indifferent or do not care, a Scorpio Rising may see others as too lazy or stubborn, a Libra Rising will see them as aggressive or/and selfish and so on.

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posted November 27, 2023 02:07 PM            

My other siblings' moons, in birth order:
Sagittarius, Scorpio, Cancer, Aquarius

The 2nd was the favorite, and my Cancer Sun, Aquarius Moon sis was her minime. Mom was Libra Sun, Cancer Moon.

They experienced her as a mother in varying ways whereas I experienced her as an owner and jailer. Not great, to say the least.

They experienced Mom as a single mother who escaped an abusive husband (he hit her and the kids) and was raising them on her own with help from her own (divorced) parents. So they excuse a lot of things or "that's the way things were back then".

posted November 27, 2023 07:03 PM            

My older sister has Scorpio Moon in the 4th, grand trine with ASC and Jupiter. Squares Mercury. They are very close and are friends. They talk daily, and my sister is very protective of my mom, and my mom is protective of her.

I have two daughters. Oldest has Gem moon conjunct Saturn, trine Uranus and Mars. She and I are opposites, but I am her rock, whether she likes it or not. She doesn't like the structure I bring, but she also needs it and she knows it.

posted November 27, 2023 10:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Rose06:

So let's say one sibling has their moon in Aquarius, and they view their mother as maybe not the most emotionally available kind, but another sibling has their moon in Cancer, so they view the mother as emotional and moody or caring and nurturing. Even if the mother is doing nothing different, her two children, the siblings, will view her actions different?

How would this work exactly?

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Hi there! I have firsthand experience with this exact example you gave above.

I'm a Cancer Moon w/ Capricorn IC. 🌕 First Born child. I had a lot of responsibility placed onto me at a young age. And my mother often leaned on me for emotional support. While she did treat me like a mini-adult at times... she was *highly* attached to me and I knew how loved I was. 💜 I was her Miracle Baby! We had a *mutual* caregiving relationship. I viewed her as moody and fragile but also very loving.

My brother is an Aquarius Moon w/ Sagittarius IC. 🌙 Youngest Child. He was allowed more freedom than I was! FAR less responsibility was put onto him. He used to get into trouble quite a bit back then because my mom coddled him too much. Eventually, he calmed down though. 👍 He viewed our mother as someone wise, funny and willing to sacrifice for him.

posted December 02, 2023 01:04 PM            

We argue a lot. My childhood was extremely rough, full of yelling. There are other aspects that make this the case but from an Aries Moon perspective basically I would have strong emotional reactions to things and she would respond in a way that only made me more reactive. Things have gotten better now that I'm older and we do have a very close bond.

posted December 02, 2023 06:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Rose06:

another sibling has their moon in Cancer, so they view the mother as emotional and moody or caring and nurturing. Even if the mother is doing nothing different, her two children, the siblings, will view her actions different?

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I have moon in Cancer and my mother was none of those things and I never viewed her that way. She put me (and my siblings) in a position that we had to care for her and protect her. Not the other way round.

posted December 03, 2023 05:42 AM            

Me: I have aquarius moon, capricorn sun, pluto IC. My mother is taurus sun, capricorn moon. She considers me her best friend, the reincarnation of her mother. I have a soft spot for her, no matter how many times I've told myself to set very strict boundaries, I end up feeling guilty and sorry. The biggest memories in childhood are her closing the door on me, not picking me up on time, me hiding under the bed because she was never there (Ok some background info, we were new immigrants and there are the early struggles ofc). But on the outside, everyone thinks we are so close, she is biased towards me compared to my sister. Everything I do, in her eyes, is correct.

My sister: she is aquarius sun, cancer moon, virgo IC. her moon is opposite ALL of her personal planets (except sun). and because my mom's moon is capricorn, its opposite that of course. their suns are square. lets say my sister has always felt like an "outcast". my mother has, on multiple occasions, say that she never wanted children. my sister has a strong recollection of the day I was born, she felt abandoned because she didnt know where my parents were (they left her with my grandma). in my sister's case, my mother was there "more often" but not out of choice.