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Topic: How Will The Discovery Of A Ninth Planet Transform Astrology?
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Randall
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posted December 05, 2023 06:58 PM
  
http://astrobiology.nasa.gov/news/caltech-researchers-find-evidence-of-a-real-ninth-planet/ Linda (as well as some other traditional astrologers) have long said that there are two undiscovered planets—Pan Horus and Vulcan. The idea has been mocked by some of the newest generation of astrologers. Well, now it appears that one has been found (not seen but it’s powerful gravitational pull felt). The other planet is expected to be close to the sun and its gravitational pull hidden by Mercury, but it has not been found as of yet. Opinions? IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted December 05, 2023 10:05 PM
I don’t know, but last night I started a movie called “Another earth” that played with the subject of parallel lives. IP: Logged |
sashavittoria
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posted December 06, 2023 07:27 AM
Randall, can you explain more of Linda’s beliefs about Pan Horus and Vulcan? I know they’re supposed to rule Taurus and Virgo, respectively, but I don’t understand the connection. I also always thought asteroids Ceres and Vesta would make more sense as rulers of those signs. Is that dumb?IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 10, 2023 12:10 AM
No, that’s not dumb. We weren’t aware of all these many Asteroids when Linda was alive. I think she would have been so happy to see the development of technology and all of its discoveries. Linda (although not her alone) predicted the discovery of two more planets in our solar system. The thought was always that a planet could be closer to the sun, but the mere idea of another planet beyond Pluto was ridiculous. Astrologers who thought otherwise were mocked. It feels good to see Linda vindicated! This planet is huge and has a great gravitational pull. It’s impact will no doubt be significant now that it has been discovered. However, size does not matter with Astrology. Pluto is tiny, but it is (arguably) the most powerful planet, according to Linda. Each planet is assigned a number, and Pluto is a zero. Zero added to any number increases it. Other than the rulerships and names of the two yet undiscovered planets, Linda didn’t say much. Only that they would be discovered at the right time. We won’t fully understand the connection yet until we apply the mythos of the two and then grant those planets the rulerships they deserve, much like we did with the discovery of the outer planets. We really have no choice. Another planet in our solar system? That’s huge!IP: Logged |
implosions
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posted December 10, 2023 03:15 PM
Super neat Randall!! Is there a spot on this forum somewhere that discusses Pan Horus and Vulcan at all? IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 10, 2023 07:36 PM
Not yet, but I think there have been threads here. I'll search for them and bump what I find.IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted December 10, 2023 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by implosions:
Super neat Randall!! Is there a spot on this forum somewhere that discusses Pan Horus and Vulcan at all?
The asteroids section discusses asteroid Horus. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted December 10, 2023 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
I don’t know, but last night I started a movie called “Another earth” that played with the subject of parallel lives.
uhhhh I love stuff like that, I will check out that movie. Netflix? IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted December 10, 2023 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
No, that’s not dumb. We weren’t aware of all these many Asteroids when Linda was alive. I think she would have been so happy to see the development of technology and all of its discoveries. Linda (although not her alone) predicted the discovery of two more planets in our solar system. The thought was always that a planet could be closer to the sun, but the mere idea of another planet beyond Pluto was ridiculous. Astrologers who thought otherwise were mocked. It feels good to see Linda vindicated! This planet is huge and has a great gravitational pull. It’s impact will no doubt be significant now that it has been discovered. However, size does not matter with Astrology. Pluto is tiny, but it is (arguably) the most powerful planet, according to Linda. Each planet is assigned a number, and Pluto is a zero. Zero added to any number increases it. Other than the rulerships and names of the two yet undiscovered planets, Linda didn’t say much. Only that they would be discovered at the right time. We won’t fully understand the connection yet until we apply the mythos of the two and then grant those planets the rulerships they deserve, much like we did with the discovery of the outer planets. We really have no choice. Another planet in our solar system? That’s huge!
Interesting... I will say this I don't feel moon in cancer should be at home, I feel a lot of folks with moon in cancer have issues with emotional regulation and I would say a lot of people with moon in Taurus struggle with anxiety... I feel specially with the discovery of a new planet it would be nice to have a discussion about where planets are at home and exalted and make some changes. A planet that is at home in a sign should feel cozy and comfortable. I think the discovery of new planets will allow each planet to have a sign they are at home in. Like mercury is at home in Gemini and Virgo, so perhaps mercury will stay at home in Gemini and one of the new planets that gets discovered will fit better being at home in virgo or vice versa so its almost like the missing puzzle and then everything will fit and flow nicely and astrology will make even more sense then. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 11, 2023 01:00 AM
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Originally posted by implosions:
Super neat Randall!! Is there a spot on this forum somewhere that discusses Pan Horus and Vulcan at all?
Go to our custom search at www.lindagoodman.org and use the search term Pan-Horus. Use the hyphen. It will pull it up both ways. There are a lot of threads, and most of them include Vulcan. Enjoy! IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 11, 2023 01:02 AM
Well-said, hypatia!IP: Logged |
sashavittoria
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posted December 11, 2023 06:29 AM
Thank you Randall! That's so cool... I wonder why of all the signs, it's the first two earth signs whose ruling planets have been undiscovered until now.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 12, 2023 05:30 PM
Since Pan-Horus has been officially discovered (or rather re-discovered, since Japanese astronomers have recently proven its existence by the powerful gravitational pull it has on other planets' orbits around the Sun), I have been seriously considering giving it (with Vulcan) a separate Forum. If I do, I will transfer all of those threads there. IP: Logged |
Dons2angelss
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posted December 12, 2023 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Interesting...I will say this I don't feel moon in cancer should be at home, I feel a lot of folks with moon in cancer have issues with emotional regulation and I would say a lot of people with moon in Taurus struggle with anxiety... I feel specially with the discovery of a new planet it would be nice to have a discussion about where planets are at home and exalted and make some changes. A planet that is at home in a sign should feel cozy and comfortable. I think the discovery of new planets will allow each planet to have a sign they are at home in. Like mercury is at home in Gemini and Virgo, so perhaps mercury will stay at home in Gemini and one of the new planets that gets discovered will fit better being at home in virgo or vice versa so its almost like the missing puzzle and then everything will fit and flow nicely and astrology will make even more sense then.
I don't think mercury is at home in gemini. It acts as if on autopilot and can't form a precise thought pattern. Gemini is the twins, polarity. Mercury doesn't fit here, it wants to get it's point across but can't seem to do that in Gemini. If there were a planet to be discovered, I hope it's sign would be for either Gemini or Libra. Venus is much at home in taurus, not quite a snug fit in Libra. Libra has an almost judgemental quality about it. Libra doesn't always involve emotions when making decisions and I think that goes against venusian qualities. Anywho, I've been waiting for the discovery of a major planet. I feel like the zodiac as a whole is incomplete. I get excited to hear about possible evidence of such a massive planet beyond Pluto. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted December 12, 2023 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
uhhhh I love stuff like that, I will check out that movie. Netflix?
It was on a dodgy free site, where I use adblockers, because I couldn’t find it streaming. You could probably rent it on Amazon, though. I didn’t get very far, because it was depressing, and I needed something lighter. It’s kind of a thread through some of Brit Marling’s work, though. IP: Logged |
Fromashell
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posted December 16, 2023 11:22 AM
I have been working with ’Planet Nine’ since 2016 when they first made the search public and I would definitely say that there are astrological indications of this hypothetical body. One way in which it would change astrology has to do with the rulerships. I think we are moving out of the system that only considers the planetary rulers visible to the naked eye. The new system would incorporate all twelve planetary rulers, visible and invisible to the naked eye. My proposal for this new model includes the Galactic center and ’Planet Nine’, and builds on the microcosm of the human body.I was not aware that Linda had named one of these ’to be discovered’ planetary archetypes Pan Horus. I guess there must be something to it, something hidden in the unconscious. I initially gave this planet the working title Pan, but since there already is an asteroid named Pan, and the guidelines for naming new planetary bodies prohibits the use of anything other than Roman deities, I found Faunus to be equally as fitting as a working title since my initial inspiration was that of a forest. For the twelfth planetary ruler I found the Galactic Center to be the closing of the circle. I wonder if Lindas Vulcan has any association to Rudolph Steiners teaching about Vulcan? I feel it would then correspond nicely to the Galactic Center as the keeper of the Crown center within the microcosmic body. One of my methods for discerning the imagery for Planet Nine includes studying song lyrics. I welcome anyone to view the playlists arranged according to planetary themes on Spotify. It is getting lonely over there. But loneliness happens to be one of the themes of Faunus. Anyways, I welcome anyone to view the ongoing study. I have a whole section of playlists with a Faunus theme on my Spotify account ’belowthebridgeology’ at https://open.spotify.com/user/marsinlibra?si=vrFTlGfEQPuoZbt631VLcQ I recommend reading the intro at https://belowthebridgeology.com/playlists-on-spotify/ The keywords I have gathered for Faunus are found in the Astro Key here https://belowthebridgeology.com/astro-key/ You will find my proposal for the map of the microcosmic body here https://belowthebridgeology.com/the-microcosmic-body/ In this proposal Faunus is the keeper of the Hands and Pisces, while the Galactic Center is the keeper of the Crown Center and Aries, creating the circulating flow within the microcosmic body. You may also notice a few other adjustments which support the rhythm of the zodiac signs as they fall naturally into the planetary order according to the elements.
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implosions
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posted December 16, 2023 03:04 PM
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the guidelines for naming new planetary bodies prohibits the use of anything other than Roman deities
WHATTTTTT. This is furthering my irritation bias when it comes to modern astrology (and further with any witchcraft study around it re deity work) .. how are we only allowed to work within a singular, ancient historical reference? And a lousy, patriarchally twisted and overall rotten one? (Anyone wanna argue, do your history on 'ancient rome' first). I know there must be nuance here because there are absolutely planets and bodies out there named from other cultures (or, yawn, the people that discovered them) ... is it just the PLANETS in our own solar system that we are prohibited from naming outside the Roman circle? Who enforces this?! IP: Logged |
Amoranthaniela
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posted December 16, 2023 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by implosions:
WHATTTTTT.This is furthering my irritation bias when it comes to modern astrology (and further with any witchcraft study around it re deity work) .. how are we only allowed to work within a singular, ancient historical reference? And a lousy, patriarchally twisted and overall rotten one? (Anyone wanna argue, do your history on 'ancient rome' first). I know there must be nuance here because there are absolutely planets and bodies out there named from other cultures (or, yawn, the people that discovered them) ... is it just the PLANETS in our own solar system that we are prohibited from naming outside the Roman circle? Who enforces this?!
Well, to be honest I'm glad if this is a real guideline. Saves us from enduring mistakes like naming planets Tesla, Mcdonalds or Starbucks lol knowing how crazy the world is today they just might do it. IP: Logged |
Fromashell
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posted December 16, 2023 03:57 PM
To my understanding it's in the IAU guidelines. I think smaller astronomical bodies will receive names outside the Greco-Roman pantheon. A planet will correspond to a certain imagery regardless of the name. Perhaps we should not get too hung up on the name and mythology. I would say one is free to associate a planet to other deities if they resonate with the imagery of the planetary archetype. Personally I find it helpful to just view the planetary archetypes as functions within the microcosmic human body. IP: Logged |
Librapurr
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posted December 16, 2023 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by Amoranthaniela:
Well, to be honest I'm glad if this is a real guideline. Saves us from enduring mistakes like naming planets Tesla, Mcdonalds or Starbucks lol knowing how crazy the world is today they just might do it.
Ha, definitely😅IP: Logged |
MoonMystic
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posted December 17, 2023 01:39 AM
This is the kinda stuff I enjoy indulging in. I sought info and in 2005 it was getting discussed here: http://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/taurus/pan-horus-true-ruler-266647/ I'll add my thoughts after reading more on this.
Pan has my thinking of Capricorn and Taurus was mentioned, I need to read more clearly but my thoughts on this do pull in on Capricorn and Aquarius because http://my.astrofame.com/astrology/article/E2909-egyptian-astrology-portraits
Horus (Amun ra) is signified in Egyptian Astrological means as Aquarius. Though ram is Aries, we clearly get the tower of babel unraveling old education, theory to the wheel. Editing - has anyone here even looked @their own Vulcan asteroid in their charts?
I just realized mine is (0) my pallas, ruled by Uranus , 3rd house and in the comparison chart mercury hits them. I feel like Spock! Lol
So it turns out my vulcan&hours in midpoint are exact my mercury. Paint me green and change my ears! I can't do the splayed digits. Damn it. 
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Fromashell
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posted December 17, 2023 09:45 AM
Planet Nine lies beyond Pluto, where conscious shifts to unconscious, and we move into the unbodied realm of spirit. Sedna moves in this region and holds some of the imagery that Planet Nine conveys. Spirit is a realm of light and darkness, hence you will see a theme of dualization. You can also find this in the glyph of Pisces, representing the two fish swimming in opposite directions, also reminiscent of a torus field.
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PlutoWasHere
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posted December 17, 2023 02:12 PM
If there’s any outer planet that’s still undiscovered then I suspect it’s going to be named after a female Roman goddess. I think Minerva is a good candidate. She’s a main character in the Roman pantheon and Minerva would fit nicely as a ruler for Virgo. As the outer planets all have big orbits and take a long time to move across the zodiac, it’s going to be generational. All the generational planets embody the energy and major shifts of the time period they were discovered in. Maybe Minerva could be linked to AI, an anti aging breakthrough or something we can’t even foresee right now but will have major societal implications. Probably linked to strategy, intelligence, medicine and/or (sacred) wisdom. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted December 17, 2023 02:59 PM
Yesterday, someone referenced a project being worked on, that would help people to work *in their sleep*. On threads, someone said that people don’t really need weekends, which sparked a lot of postings taking the first bit, and adding their own silly part to it. This is a link that talks about the company that wants to have people working in their sleep, through lucid dreaming.
http://fortune.com/2023/11/30/lucid-dream-startup-prophetic-headset-prepa re-meetings-while-sleeping/#
http://www.independent.co.uk/tech/lucid-dream-work-prophetic-ai-b2457929.html
I’ve only tried chatgpt, a couple of times, because it weirds me out a bit. It’s also going to be something they want you to pay for, eventually. I thought I heard that.
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Spica
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posted December 18, 2023 04:08 PM
Hello Randall this is Spica. Long time no talk. How are you? I want to post my advertisement on your website.IP: Logged |
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