posted December 28, 2023 08:47 PM            

Pluto, as I've lived and been studying, seems to bring more of a hyperfocus to themes of it's position rather than any direct influence. So if Pluto is sitting with Venus, Venusian themes are obsessed over, values are more important than they may be otherwise.

So Pluto in the 7th house is how we interact with others. The versions of us that come out when we engage with friends, colleagues, people we see on the daily. This focus of interpersonal connections will become paramount when Pluto moves through this house. It wants to veto those who you interact with -- so that those who are allowed to move to your house of intimacy (8th, derivitive of the 7th, etc) are able to actually stand there with you.

posted December 30, 2023 09:01 AM            

I found one former classmate of mine who had Pluto transit through his 7th house. An Aquarius with Gemini Ascendant. When Pluto was in Saggitarius it went through his 7th house. I remember him struggling so much. Instead of supporting him, teachers let him down and made him change schools because his performance became too poor. It was a shame. Interestingly, Sagittarius is also the sign of high schools, universities, and education.

I don't think Pluto in Aquarius has the same themes. Lisa Kudrow, Ben Barnes, Robert de Niro and Arnold Schwarzenegger are all Leo's with Cancer Rising.

Since so many planets (sun, venus, rising) are involved in your case my best guess is that Pluto's transit in the 7th house deals with issues in partnerships and power conflicts in romantic or business relationships.

I would advise you to watch this video of Pluto in the 7th house as I can well imagine Pluto in transit will bring similar things into focus:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sSQNNFm_WM

posted December 30, 2023 04:28 PM            

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Originally posted by rockwell:
I checked the charts of relatives to see if anyone had ever had this constellation.

I found one former classmate of mine who had Pluto transit through his 7th house. An Aquarius with Gemini Ascendant. When Pluto was in Saggitarius it went through his 7th house. I remember him struggling so much. Instead of supporting him, teachers let him down and made him change schools because his performance became too poor. It was a shame. Interestingly, Sagittarius is also the sign of high schools, universities, and education.

I don't think Pluto in Aquarius has the same themes. Lisa Kudrow, Ben Barnes, Robert de Niro and Arnold Schwarzenegger are all Leo's with Cancer Rising [which currently had Pluto transit through their 7th house]. Maybe it gives indications of what could come up?

Since so many planets (sun, venus, rising) are involved in your case my best guess is that Pluto's transit in the 7th house deals with issues in partnerships and power conflicts in romantic or business relationships.

I would advise you to watch this video of Pluto in the 7th house as I can well imagine Pluto in transit will bring similar things into focus:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sSQNNFm_WM

Pluto in the 7th house could either bring people into your life with strong Pluto/Scorpio influence or you attract people who embody these qualities or you become fixated on the 'perfect' relationships. You also could get married or divorced.

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posted January 14, 2024 02:48 PM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
Something else hit me, can Pluto in Aqua bring in very intense lovers and intense relationships in a sexual sense?

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To be forward about it, Sagittarius style, yes, yes a Pluto transit to the 7th house can represent sex. Sex in relationships, or a person's relationship to sex!

Pluto tends to transform so I'd expect the way you look at relationships to transform too!

posted January 19, 2024 03:38 AM            

However, I can pin down some major changes in the way that I approach relationship since the beginning of this year, while Pluto has been going back and forth over my descendant. They are the following:

- ending of a toxic/plutonic relationship in March (finally after over a year of trying to finish it)
- boundaries in relationships and expressing needs
- confronting fears of self expression (probably more related to my NN 19’ Leo) and issues around authenticity
- examining my relationship with sex and intimacy
- reciprocity in relationship (I’m in a new romantic relationship where I’m getting as much as I give, for the first time in my life!)
- empathy
- examining my shadow side around issues with power, control, manipulation, possession and obsession
- affects of my neurodiversity on my relationships

So far it’s been intense, but then my life has always been that way ;-)

posted January 21, 2024 04:05 PM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
And just yesterday an old friend out of nowhere hits me up to hang out.

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posted April 08, 2024 03:00 AM            

If I was her publicist, I would encourage her to lay low for now. Trans Pluto opp will be quite tough for Leo Suns.

Dad has Cancer Sun cusping on Leo. The Plu in Cap transit has been tough on him. He has gone through a lot during this transit. A LOT.

He is definitely not the same man as when the transit started-eyes sunken in, weight loss, limping whilst walking because of an injury sustained in an accident (but not taken seriously enough by him to treat it accordingly).

Even I with Pluto starting in Cap and conjunct my Sun very early on,have had the last 16 years of my life been less than easy. I have seen myself come undone. It's been brutal.😢

I keep on talking of how tired and beat down I feel on here. How I don't have much strength or oomph left to carry on. And that's really how deeply I have been affected by this transit.

To Leo's and Aquas. Good luck. 💪🏿. I wish strength to you all. This period of Plu in Aqua is very long(I think 20 years if not mistaken).

posted April 08, 2024 03:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Look at what is happening to poor JLo. She has natal Leo Sun opp transiting Plu. The loss of relevance, loss of power. Loss of influence. It's all happening in a very public way for her.

If I was her publicist, I would encourage her to lay low for now. Trans Pluto opp will be quite tough for Leo Suns.

Dad has Cancer Sun cusping on Leo. The Plu in Cap transit has been tough on him. He has gone through a lot during this transit. A LOT.

He is definitely not the same man as when the transit started-eyes sunken in, weight loss, limping whilst walking because of an injury sustained in an accident (but not taken seriously enough by him to treat it accordingly).

Even I with Pluto starting in Cap and conjunct my Sun very early on,have had the last 16 years of my life been less than easy. I have seen myself come undone. It's been brutal.😢

I keep on talking of how tired and beat down I feel on here. How I don't have much strength or oomph left to carry on. And that's really how deeply I have been affected by this transit.

To Leo's and Aquas. Good luck. 💪🏿. I wish strength to you all. This period of Plu in Aqua is very long(I think 20 years if not mistaken).

These 20 years will be exceptionally trying. You will be tested severely with all you have. Much of your sense of self (as I said) will be undone. Your self esteem will take quite a knock.

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posted April 08, 2024 04:43 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
People have been mocking her movies/documentaries that she made. I had no interest in them, but follow people who were watching mainly to mock.

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She(like Leo Sun Madonna) is struggling to stay relevant. So as some Leos often love to do ,is to centre attention around themselves through hectic publicity.Even if it is negative.

Madonna did that with her cartoon-like surgery.JLo is doing that with her Ben-Jen "Love Story"and "This is me...Now" concert etc.

When Pluto challenges the Sun, we can feel like our sense of self and subsequent self -worth,is being undervalued, attacked or sabotaged.

It's no wonder she is attracting haters right now more than ever. People WANT to see you fall when Plu is opposing the Sun. They delight in your destruction.

Plu in Aqua will "attack" Leo's need to be self important or impactful. It will have Leo question their confidence and talent.And it will make their often usually lovable & flamboyant character, mocked and ridiculed.

It will be a very humbling "shut up Meg!" period for them. Lots of eyes being rolled when they enter a room. And them having to "prove" their worth again and again.

For those born when Pluto was in Leo, it's their time to be phased out by society. A lot of their voices will be muted. People will care less and less about what they think or the wisdom they have to impart.

I see the rising of this anti "Woke" sentiment on social media. The likes of Stallone, Wahlberg and Mel Gibson etc. making their sentiments known by saying they do not want to work with "woke" people etc.

All of them are having oppositions from either Neptune or Pluto.Their influence is being phased out and so they are struggling to maintain a stronghold on the changes in the world.

Mark Wahlberg has trans Neptune closely opposing his Plu in Virgo.

Sylvester Stallone and Mel Gibson both have trans Plu opp their natal Plutos in Leo.

Sylvester will experience the closer aspect of this transit much sooner than Mel though. It will be interesting to see.

Remember in 2010 when Mel had his infamous racist rant captured by his then girlfriend? It would cost him his reputation and stall his career.

At that time,trans Nep was opp his natal Plu. He sounded so irrational and off the hinges in the recording.

For those who have Sun in Aqua however. They will feel themselves stepping into powerful roles, given the microphone and keys to the city etc.

With much power comes a great deal more of responsibility.Something that they will quickly learn is how this power hangs by the edge of a knife. If they stray but a little, it will be their ruin and downfall.

They must remain incorruptible throughout this tenure. Be careful of saying unsavoury things on public platforms that will come and bite them in the a** etc.

If Aqua is the Asc with Obama,this period should be interesting for him. His Sun in Leo means that he is part of the Plu generation.He'll face the challenges of Leo energy spoken of.

But with Asc in Aqua interacting with Plu in Aqua, he will also come into the spotlight somehow.

Perhaps it is to be "undone" or exposed in some way as a fraud? Or hailed as a hero from his generation?

posted April 09, 2024 06:43 PM            

https://twitter.com/TheJulieBenson/status/1777575151154131320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1777575151154131320%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

posted April 10, 2024 01:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
She(like Leo Sun Madonna) is struggling to stay relevant. So as some Leos often love to do ,is to centre attention around themselves through hectic publicity.Even if it is negative.

Madonna did that with her cartoon-like surgery.JLo is doing that with her Ben-Jen "Love Story"and "This is me...Now" concert etc.

When Pluto challenges the Sun, we can feel like our sense of self and subsequent self -worth,is being undervalued, attacked or sabotaged.

It's no wonder she is attracting haters right now more than ever. People WANT to see you fall when Plu is opposing the Sun. They delight in your destruction.

Plu in Aqua will "attack" Leo's need to be self important or impactful. It will have Leo question their confidence and talent.And it will make their often usually lovable & flamboyant character, mocked and ridiculed.

It will be a very humbling "shut up Meg!" period for them. Lots of eyes being rolled when they enter a room. And them having to "prove" their worth again and again.

For those born when Pluto was in Leo, it's their time to be phased out by society. A lot of their voices will be muted. People will care less and less about what they think or the wisdom they have to impart.

I see the rising of this anti "Woke" sentiment on social media. The likes of Stallone, Wahlberg and Mel Gibson etc. making their sentiments known by saying they do not want to work with "woke" people etc.

All of them are having oppositions from either Neptune or Pluto.Their influence is being phased out and so they are struggling to maintain a stronghold on the changes in the world.

Mark Wahlberg has trans Neptune closely opposing his Plu in Virgo.

Sylvester Stallone and Mel Gibson both have trans Plu opp their natal Plutos in Leo.

Sylvester will experience the closer aspect of this transit much sooner than Mel though. It will be interesting to see.

Remember in 2010 when Mel had his infamous racist rant captured by his then girlfriend? It would cost him his reputation and stall his career.

At that time,trans Nep was opp his natal Plu. He sounded so irrational and off the hinges in the recording.

For those who have Sun in Aqua however. They will feel themselves stepping into powerful roles, given the microphone and keys to the city etc.

With much power comes a great deal more of responsibility.Something that they will quickly learn is how this power hangs by the edge of a knife. If they stray but a little, it will be their ruin and downfall.

They must remain incorruptible throughout this tenure. Be careful of saying unsavoury things on public platforms that will come and bite them in the a** etc.

If Aqua is the Asc with Obama,this period should be interesting for him. His Sun in Leo means that he is part of the Plu generation.He'll face the challenges of Leo energy spoken of.

But with Asc in Aqua interacting with Plu in Aqua, he will also come into the spotlight somehow.

Perhaps it is to be "undone" or exposed in some way as a fraud? Or hailed as a hero from his generation?

Oprah is a part of the Plu generation and has Sun in Aqua. The same will be done to her. My uncle is Sun in Aqua and Plu in Leo (opposition in his chart). He will go through the same during this period.

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I know that Madonna isn't a perfect person but her tour is doing fine!

Jennifer Lopez is a bit lacking in the acting, and singing, area! Madonna at least can put on a show!

posted April 10, 2024 03:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
I know that Madonna isn't a perfect person but her tour is doing fine!

Jennifer Lopez is a bit lacking in the acting, and singing, area! Madonna at least can put on a show!

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I think my point is that Madonna always pulls some type of stunt to get attention back on her. That's what i mean by 'staying relevant '. She really doesn't have to because she (like Michael Jackson) is already at legendary status.

But because she is 'Madonna' and knows that courting controversy is her thing, she will always be game for that.

I remember watching her on "Graham Norton" with other celebrated celebrities also being interviewed. She was rude and dismissive. I thought that perhaps it was scripted?

Then I also heard of her being on "Will & Grace" . How she was rude to Sean Hayes(Jack) and aloof with actors who play Will and Grace. And that suggested to me that it's just her thing.

I think she likes to come off being the one spoken about. There are many other reports of her not being a nice person. So she has to keep the b*** act up. It's addictive 🤷🏿‍♂️

Madonna has also said that she never became a singer because of her "talent". She didn't think she had a great voice. But she definitely felt that she had something to say. So she became an entertainer-which meant singing was part and parcel of that.

Talented? I don't know. But I have to admit that I do admire her staying power. The race is always won by those who endure. And her Mars in Tau definitely made her endure throughout her career through reinvention.

Another person who is also about enduring through their career is Janet "Miss Jackson if you're nasty". She has Mars in Tau too.

posted April 10, 2024 03:52 AM            

I wonder if he will still have the wherewithal for it though? As trans Neptune has been doing the most to his Sun/Moon in the previous years.

And with his Sun(ruling the 1st house of body) perhaps it would be a situation where he will be an armchair activist rather than one who is in the ring?🤔

Neptune weakens the body when on the Asc ruler or Sun( and Donald has Asc ruler and Sun connected ). Saturn will also be crossing his Sun/Moon next year. So some challenges ahead for Trump.

However, I see that this year Donald has Uranus in Tau and Jupiter in Tau currently crossing his Mc.Trans Jupiter will square his Asc before going into Gemini.

posted April 10, 2024 04:08 AM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
Leo Stellium here and thriving. The previous poster has no idea of what they are talking about. I think Scorpios are going to get it really bad in this transit but hey, let Aries deny all they want.

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🤣🤣 oh wow. Well I did expect push back from you. What kind of interaction would it be otherwise without it?☝🏿

It's fine. Just a perspective -as you did invite speculation from us about Pluto in Aqua transit on Leo's did you not? And some of it may not be pleasing to hear unfortunately.

But Let's see how things play out for you and other Leo's during this tenure. 🙌🏿

And yes, Scorpios are fixed sign energy. So they too will feel the impact of Plu in Aqua. Not exempt.

There are certain emotional fixations with Scorpio that will come to the foreground. Things that they have long nursed (grudges
and obsessions)that need to be purged.

posted April 10, 2024 04:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Isa:
Aries23Degrees is right once again.

https://twitter.com/TheJulieBenson/status/1777575151154131320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1777575151154131320%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

"Sylvester Stallone reportedly goes full-blown on the set of Tulsa King, dragging extras’ looks/disabilities & demanding “pretty young girls” only"

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Yikes.And I actually like Stallone. "The Expandables" franchises are some of my favourite movies.

He is a little bit overly "macho". But with that Moon/Jupiter/Chiron on the Mc squaring Saturn, he wants to portray the "traditional man" as his public persona (Mc). And the latter is often "macho"🤷🏿‍♂️

It actually surprises me how i often see that Moon strong men can come across as being the "macho" man or patronize "machismo" culture . Hmmmm🤔

Anywho, transiting Mars/Saturn conj in Pis was already widely opp Stallone's natal Mars in Vir(separating by 5 deg) and approaching his natal Ura in Gem (also by 5 Deg).

This connection of Mars/Ura/Mars/Sat could have triggered the outburst. That's a lot of energy build-up right there.

Judging from Twitter (many negative comments about the "softie" generation of Millennials aside) it seems like many people will sidestep this fiasco as just "work tension".

I would expect Saturn to be severe. Yes, Paramount is "investigating".But that doesn't mean the show will be cancelled or stalled?

My suspicions is that perhaps the direct transit isn't as strong as the retrograde hit for him yet(where the energies can get more thorough)?

So the ramifications are not (to my knowledge)as tangible or devastating as I would expect them to be. Let's just wait and see.

Stallone must however be careful though. Sat tends to leave a dent. And transit Sat will retro on his Ura in Gemini by square this year Aug.

There will also be a Jup/Mars conj trans on the same Mars/Ura midpoint on his natal at that time .

posted April 10, 2024 07:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
I know that Madonna isn't a perfect person but her tour is doing fine!

Jennifer Lopez is a bit lacking in the acting, and singing, area! Madonna at least can put on a show!

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