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GoldenSword
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posted January 08, 2024 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoldenSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like the Sun is Fire - Leo
Moon is Water - Cancer

Could the Ascendant be of Air or Earth nature??

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posted January 08, 2024 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aether. Imo it's similar to the jewel over the Sims.
In chakras the top of the head is where Source connects with us. I'd think Aether, it's more spiritual. Our ascendant is our first building block, I would guess if we were programs, asc is the black box. Like a plane has. Sorry, this is too ott. lol

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posted January 10, 2024 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoldenSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Aether. Imo it's similar to the jewel over the Sims.
In chakras the top of the head is where Source connects with us. I'd think Aether, it's more spiritual. Our ascendant is our first building block, I would guess if we were programs, asc is the black box. Like a plane has. Sorry, this is too ott. lol

Interesting! Thank you MM

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posted January 10, 2024 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
None. The Asc is not a planet like Mars or Mercury.

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posted January 10, 2024 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Aries23Degrees,
I think it should. I mean we have original rulers to Mc (Capricorn/ saturn earth), IC (Cancer/Moon water) and the desc as Libra/air as well asc in the standard is Aries/fire.
Idk but in other practices 5 pointed stars denotes the air, water, fire, earth and Aether. Maybe I'm weird. Idk. lol

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posted January 15, 2024 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoldenSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aether according to PLATO is 12 sides shape of equally sized pentagons.

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posted January 15, 2024 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If he hadn't written that, relativity may not have yet been discovered. That was a moment of evolution when Plato wrote this. It nudged others to think outside the original paradigms.
In my mind's eye, I see the fractals in water we don't see unless we use use image enhancing tools.

In that case, this was another discovery though not related I feel it shows how parts of our world do communicate though we don't recognize them to, as in the aether in this thread's instance, it might be a medium in the conducting of how we move, think, animate.

I've read the main location that is the sphinx, is radiowaved somehow to us and we move without acknowledgement of this. Like pneuma being breathed, there was a time it wasn't common to know of this.

In my thought of the water emotions, fractals and us with our aether as a minut source within, for the Ascendings, it is probable similar to water, aether surrounding and within are given codes to dance by. The transits in the wheel for us, emotion within water. Just my hunch. I know everyone has an idea, this is a mere idea.

Regarding aether there's so many spellings but he describes well aether/ether. I see it as a light unseen by the naked eye. Without it we wouldn't recognize another, we might not be self aware. This to me is the Anima and unseen connection to the whole .. the Divine. Which we might carry within ourselves a personal version, similar to how a blu tooth device operates and can have its own personality, yet connect with a bigger vast of other similar items.
We are made of light, in gnostic studies aether is well described. This video speaks on the spirit side of it. Pretty fascinating imo.
http://youtu.be/oT2DmLyrpws?si=_R12jNqtmXTCzFQK


Emotu http://youtu.be/dVWv1KZ7ypQ?si=SW3nrtFLqmnIjLqx

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posted January 17, 2024 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoldenSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
If he hadn't written that, relativity may not have yet been discovered. That was a moment of evolution when Plato wrote this. It nudged others to think outside the original paradigms.
In my mind's eye, I see the fractals in water we don't see unless we use use image enhancing tools.

In that case, this was another discovery though not related I feel it shows how parts of our world do communicate though we don't recognize them to, as in the aether in this thread's instance, it might be a medium in the conducting of how we move, think, animate.

I've read the main location that is the sphinx, is radiowaved somehow to us and we move without acknowledgement of this. Like pneuma being breathed, there was a time it wasn't common to know of this.

In my thought of the water emotions, fractals and us with our aether as a minut source within, for the Ascendings, it is probable similar to water, aether surrounding and within are given codes to dance by. The transits in the wheel for us, emotion within water. Just my hunch. I know everyone has an idea, this is a mere idea.

Regarding aether there's so many spellings but he describes well aether/ether. I see it as a light unseen by the naked eye. Without it we wouldn't recognize another, we might not be self aware. This to me is the Anima and unseen connection to the whole .. the Divine. Which we might carry within ourselves a personal version, similar to how a blu tooth device operates and can have its own personality, yet connect with a bigger vast of other similar items.
We are made of light, in gnostic studies aether is well described. This video speaks on the spirit side of it. Pretty fascinating imo.
http://youtu.be/oT2DmLyrpws?si=_R12jNqtmXTCzFQK


Emotu http://youtu.be/dVWv1KZ7ypQ?si=SW3nrtFLqmnIjLqx


Fascinating

Thank you, I really appreciate that.

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posted January 30, 2024 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 30, 2024 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Preppyarcher7989Wiff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fire? Aries is associated with the body? My assessment is boring! I want to hear other people's opinions!

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posted February 03, 2024 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoldenSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Fire? Aries is associated with the body? My assessment is boring! I want to hear other people's opinions!


Is it fair⚖ though to give fire 2 of the big 3's and none to air or earth?

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posted February 06, 2024 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoldenSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More insights?

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posted February 07, 2024 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Preppyarcher7989Wiff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Is it fair⚖ though to give fire 2 of the big 3's and none to air or earth?

My opinion only! Fire signs are about the physical body! Earth signs are about material things, wealth, and working with your environment!

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posted February 08, 2024 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoldenSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
after reading some alchemichal texts.. it seems that mercury's nature is similar to the ascendant nature!

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posted February 14, 2024 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see it as Fire since it is Aries house. The Ascendant is just like Aries when anything lands here everything becomes more "brave" and out there for the world to see. Strong 1st housers tend to have strong characters, be blunt and obvious with their feelings and reactions and might even be a bit self-centered and have a "me" attitude.

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posted February 14, 2024 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Preppyarcher7989Wiff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I see it as Fire since it is Aries house. The Ascendant is just like Aries when anything lands here everything becomes more "brave" and out there for the world to see. Strong 1st housers tend to have strong characters, be blunt and obvious with their feelings and reactions and might even be a bit self-centered and have a "me" attitude.

Even though air rising signs aren't always conventionally attractive they do truly come off extroverted and socially attractive!

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posted February 22, 2024 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 27, 2024 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
I see it as Fire since it is Aries house. The Ascendant is just like Aries when anything lands here everything becomes more "brave" and out there for the world to see. Strong 1st housers tend to have strong characters, be blunt and obvious with their feelings and reactions and might even be a bit self-centered and have a "me" attitude.

this is the only answer here that makes sense to me. the "natural"/default ascendant is aries, so the ascendant's natural element would have to be fire.

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posted April 20, 2024 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you goldenSword for challenging my thinking, perception.


To add to my original hypothesis, Element aether is actually "vibration, frequency". As in harmonic, cymatics, sound etc.


I stand by my belief this previously unused element in Astrology truly encapsulates the person's identification in essence. We vibrate, are recognized by our "frequency", hence the ascendant would denote such a dynamic to reveal "whom we are". How we are SEEN. Infared cams pick up on us in the physical. Our aura might weave in like the strands of our dna to our packets within, a bit off topic, my point is we might see revolutionized thinking in Astrology NOW. Let them discover things they have yet to, this COULD be something. The plutonium Aquarius energy now is a NEW thinking. Aquarius is revolutionary and networking but stars, space too. You opened a topic I think the astrol. community should look closer at. Jmo.

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posted April 22, 2024 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoldenSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Thank you goldenSword for challenging my thinking, perception.


To add to my original hypothesis, Element aether is actually "vibration, frequency". As in harmonic, cymatics, sound etc.


I stand by my belief this previously unused element in Astrology truly encapsulates the person's identification in essence. We vibrate, are recognized by our "frequency", hence the ascendant would denote such a dynamic to reveal "whom we are". How we are SEEN. Infared cams pick up on us in the physical. Our aura might weave in like the strands of our dna to our packets within, a bit off topic, my point is we might see revolutionized thinking in Astrology NOW. Let them discover things they have yet to, this COULD be something. The plutonium Aquarius energy now is a NEW thinking. Aquarius is revolutionary and networking but stars, space too. You opened a topic I think the astrol. community should look closer at. Jmo.


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