posted February 08, 2024 06:23 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I know a Leo ascendant who doesn't do sweet and sugary, necessarily, but she doesn't scream "Leo ascendant" either.

I'm a Scorpio rising, and I have broad-ish shoulders. Uranus ascendant.

I don't have enough interest to dig into transits and progressions, but she had a big break-up last year (or it became known, almost a year ago). Joe Alwyn. They were involved since 2016.

She's been re-creating her own music, after Scooter Braun bought the rights to her originals, and wouldn't sell them to her. She should own her own music, he's a dick. So, she now releases "Taylor's version" and last Sunday (?) she apparently announced a brand new album, being released on April 19th.

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Really, my niece is a Leo rising and when she was young she looked very warm and friendly! I don't believe all Leo risings are these overly-aggressive, sharp, people! Just look at Marilyn Monroe and Maya Angelou.

Leo risings can be very warm and friendly. They can also be very loyal.

Again, just my two cents. Not everybody has had the same experiences with Leo risings; Also, synastry may play a factor too.

posted February 08, 2024 06:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Isa:
I think the tides are turning for Taylor Swift. She is overdoing it and people are tired of her. Ignoring Celine Dion, taking 13 minutes trips with a private jet, the racist ex, bringing Lana on stage, interrupting a band's interview, announcing a new album bashing the ex. She is overexposed and needs to hide for a moment. Taylor has a 1 degree AQUARIUS Venus. Pluto is coming for her.

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I agree. The Celine Dion thing is only the beginning though.

I like Taylor Swift but she's not perfect just like everybody else!

posted February 08, 2024 06:27 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I can think of someone else who is oversaturated, and should disappear, but we’re still lumped with him.

I’m kind of tired of hearing about her, but her haters keep her in the spotlight, too.

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I think you're talking about another Leo rising, the dude who was president from 2017 to early 2021! Hehe.

Yeah he-who-must-not-be-named is very overexposed! I agree, sure!

posted February 08, 2024 06:43 PM            

JFC. I'm not a runner. So, she really has stamina.

posted February 09, 2024 03:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
Really, my niece is a Leo rising and when she was young she looked very warm and friendly! I don't believe all Leo risings are these overly-aggressive, sharp, people! Just look at Marilyn Monroe and Maya Angelou.

Leo risings can be very warm and friendly. They can also be very loyal.

Again, just my two cents. Not everybody has had the same experiences with Leo risings; Also, synastry may play a factor too.

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posted February 09, 2024 04:22 AM            

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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
She likes to come of as a sweet person which annoys me because i feel she is overdoing it so in my opinion i don’t think she is a Leo rising. I feel she also has a tendency to play the ‘’victim’’ and wanting to look like the innocent party in whatever unfortunate situation she gets herself into. On Astro seek it shows that she is a Cap rising which makes her have Neptune conjunct her Ascendant which i feel explains the victim mentality and wanting to seem so sweet and her slim figure. Leo risings tends to have more of a feisty look to them and a pridefulness that is hard to miss. They might ‘’seem’’ full of themselves and confident just based on the way they look and like they are feisty. Might even have Cat like features where they resemble a Cat too. The hair tends to be big or stand out in someway esp in Females and it might even be the first thing you noticed about them.

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I tend to agree with this...

Plus, it also explains her more "tall/bony" features, as Capricorn can give an attractive skeleton (if that makes sense...).

posted February 09, 2024 05:24 AM            

-Leo rising
-Virgo rising
-Scorpio rising
-Capricorn rising!

posted February 09, 2024 05:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Amoranthaniela:
I tend to agree with this...

Plus, it also explains her more "tall/bony" features, as Capricorn can give an attractive skeleton (if that makes sense...).

Also, her moon being in the 8th house on astrotheme makes no sense at all based on her behavior and subject matter.

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posted February 09, 2024 05:42 AM            

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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
Exactly, the Capricorn side of this is what i associated the slim figure with and also with Neptune on top of that i feel it explains why she likes to potray herself as this sweet and innocent and victim like figure. I also agree that she doesn`t exude any Scorpio/Pluto/8th house vibes whatsoever.

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I can see her having issues with forgiveness. That could be her 'Scorpio parts.' But she has Mars and Pluto (10 degrees orb) in Scorpio!

I don't see her as a Scorpio rising but you never know!

posted February 09, 2024 06:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
I can see her having issues with forgiveness. That could be her 'Scorpio parts.' But she has Mars and Pluto (10 degrees orb) in Scorpio!

I don't see her as a Scorpio rising but you never know!

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posted February 09, 2024 12:01 PM            

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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
I think that might be her Cancer moon they can hold a grudge believe me i know i have the same Moon sign. The Mars part might be "put" onto the Males in her life where they are the ones who might have more of a Scorpionic nature or the way she approaches her goals or sexual matters might be more Scorpio in nature.

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It could be both!

posted February 09, 2024 12:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Isa:
I think the tides are turning for Taylor Swift. She is overdoing it and people are tired of her. Ignoring Celine Dion, taking 13 minutes trips with a private jet, the racist ex, bringing Lana on stage, interrupting a band's interview, announcing a new album bashing the ex. She is overexposed and needs to hide for a moment. Taylor has a 1 degree AQUARIUS Venus. Pluto is coming for her.

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She always goes through cycle of overindulging with public admiration and manipulation till it turns against her and she needs to take a break. What seems like Pluto or Saturn doing.

posted February 09, 2024 01:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
It looks like the most sources are dividing between Scorpio and Capricorn.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Isa:
[b]I think the tides are turning for Taylor Swift. She is overdoing it and people are tired of her. Ignoring Celine Dion, taking 13 minutes trips with a private jet, the racist ex, bringing Lana on stage, interrupting a band's interview, announcing a new album bashing the ex. She is overexposed and needs to hide for a moment. Taylor has a 1 degree AQUARIUS Venus. Pluto is coming for her. I like her, but it gets too much. Most of her relationships were overexposed and it backfired. It seemed like she learned lessons and kept it private with Alwyn what was her longest relationship. And now she is back to public insanity. I think it’s not gonna end up well as before.

She always goes through cycle of overindulging with public admiration and manipulation till it turns against her and she needs to take a break. What seems like Pluto or Saturn doing.

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posted February 09, 2024 02:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
I can see her having issues with forgiveness. That could be her 'Scorpio parts.' But she has Mars and Pluto (10 degrees orb) in Scorpio!

I don't see her as a Scorpio rising but you never know!

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posted February 09, 2024 02:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
I think you're talking about another Leo rising, the dude who was president from 2017 to early 2021! Hehe.

Yeah he-who-must-not-be-named is very overexposed! I agree, sure!

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auto-correct, changed this smiley to :sighing: and that made me laugh, too, because you’re correct.

posted February 09, 2024 02:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
It looks like the most sources are dividing between Scorpio and Capricorn.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Isa:
[b]I think the tides are turning for Taylor Swift. She is overdoing it and people are tired of her. Ignoring Celine Dion, taking 13 minutes trips with a private jet, the racist ex, bringing Lana on stage, interrupting a band's interview, announcing a new album bashing the ex. She is overexposed and needs to hide for a moment. Taylor has a 1 degree AQUARIUS Venus. Pluto is coming for her.

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She always goes through cycle of overindulging with public admiration and manipulation till it turns against her and she needs to take a break. What seems like Pluto or Saturn doing.

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Maybe she’s just having fun, because she was so quiet with him, for a long time.

Nobody’s perfect, but I don’t get the adoration or the hate. She’s going to get it, no matter what, and I don’t think she needs to be a shrinking violet.

posted February 09, 2024 04:32 PM            

I can see the argument (s) that Taylor might be a Capricorn rising! Can see it!

But, for now, I stand by my opinion that Taylor Swift is a Leo rising!

posted February 10, 2024 01:25 PM            

I would think that Children who work with Adults a lot or are in an environment that requires professionalism, typically have a relationship between Saturn and Moon, Saturn and Ic/4th or even Saturn and the 5th house.

Jackson had Saturn /Moon square, Culkin has Moon strung up with Saturn via Jupiter. Britney has Ic/5th house ruled by Saturn in her 1st house trine her Moon.

There is usually either a strict "stage parent pushing them on. Or the native pushed themselves on to start achieving quite early.

I also think Moon/Mercury opp in Taylor's chart plays a role in her ability to write about her emotions. Her articulation and catchy hooks for her songs are very Mercurial imo.

If I were to guess her Asc, I would look at the event around 2019 when she and Scooter Braun had a fallout.

Saturn was (at the time) transiting Cap. So I would reckon that a cardinal Asc Cap, Cancer, Libra or Aries would fit.

Going back from that date, her Dad moved with the family when she was 14(2003) in order to advance her music career.

She also had to change schools after the move to accommodate her touring schedule. She graduated a year early.

To quote Wicki "Swift became the youngest artist signed by the Sony/ATV Tree publishing house,[42] but left then BMG-owned RCA Records (later bought by Sony Music) at the age of 14 due to the label's lack of care and them "cut[ting] other people's stuff". She was also concerned that development deals can shelve artists[33][23] and recalled: "I genuinely felt that I was running out of time. I wanted to capture these years of my life on an album while they still represented what I was going through."

All that pressure and changes, delays and career motivated moves sounds like Saturn to me.

Taylor would have been 14 in Dec 13 2023. Saturn was in Cancer then and stayed there till she turned 15.

That infamous MTV award speech interruption from Kanye West in 2009 Sep 13, had transiting Saturn on her natal Sun.

But what's more telling is that her "Speak Now: World Tour" started in Feb 2011 to March 2012 . Saturn was in Libra throughout that time.

For me, a cardinal Asc makes sense.With Cap Asc, Moon would be in 7th house?With Cancer Asc, Moon would be in 1st house
With Libra Asc, Moon would be in 10th house.With Aries Asc, Moon would be in 4th house .

My vote is Libra Asc with Moon/Jup in 10th house and Merc/Ura/Sat/Nep in house 4. Sun would be in house 3.Mars/Plu in house 2 and Venus in house 5.

posted February 10, 2024 07:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Looked at her wiki. There isn't much in her life by way of dramatic events to mark transits. But I think Saturn is very active for her. I mean she started working pretty early in writing songs and collaborating with industry heads.

I would think that Children who work with Adults a lot or are in an environment that requires professionalism, typically have a relationship between Saturn and Moon, Saturn and Ic/4th or even Saturn and the 5th house.

Jackson had Saturn /Moon square, Culkin has Moon strung up with Saturn via Jupiter. Britney has Ic/5th house ruled by Saturn in her 1st house trine her Moon.

There is usually either a strict "stage parent pushing them on. Or the native pushed themselves on to start achieving quite early.

I also think Moon/Mercury opp in Taylor's chart plays a role in her ability to write about her emotions. Her articulation and catchy hooks for her songs are very Mercurial imo.

If I were to guess her Asc, I would look at the event around 2019 when she and Scooter Braun had a fallout.

Saturn was (at the time) transiting Cap. So I would reckon that a cardinal Asc Cap, Cancer, Libra or Aries would fit.

Going back from that date, her Dad moved with the family when she was 14(2003) in order to advance her music career.

She also had to change schools after the move to accommodate her touring schedule. She graduated a year early.

To quote Wicki [b]"Swift became the youngest artist signed by the Sony/ATV Tree publishing house,[42] but left then BMG-owned RCA Records (later bought by Sony Music) at the age of 14 due to the label's lack of care and them "cut[ting] other people's stuff". She was also concerned that development deals can shelve artists[33][23] and recalled: "I genuinely felt that I was running out of time. I wanted to capture these years of my life on an album while they still represented what I was going through."

All that pressure and changes, delays and career motivated moves sounds like Saturn to me.

Taylor would have been 14 in Dec 13 2023. Saturn was in Cancer then and stayed there till she turned 15.

That infamous MTV award speech interruption from Kanye West in 2009 Sep 13, had transiting Saturn on her natal Sun.

But what's more telling is that her "Speak Now: World Tour" started in Feb 2011 to March 2012 . Saturn was in Libra throughout that time.

For me, a cardinal Asc makes sense.With Cap Asc, Moon would be in 7th house?With Cancer Asc, Moon would be in 1st house
With Libra Asc, Moon would be in 10th house.With Aries Asc, Moon would be in 4th house .

My vote is Libra Asc with Moon/Jup in 10th house and Merc/Ura/Sat/Nep in house 4. Sun would be in house 3.Mars/Plu in house 2 and Venus in house 5.

#This would be using whole house system ofcourse. [/B]

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Taylor definitely could be Libra rising. But Libra rising isn't my first choice, though!

posted February 10, 2024 11:21 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
I know how her chart is mars, plutonian but -

In truth I looked through her bfs and see a typical Sagittarius theme, differing partners, most unlike the last. I did see Aquarius signs, SleepyDiary. Which made me think yeah Leo (as it is opposite), yet her hair made me think more Sagittarius, Aries but more the later imo. I looked at her guys and thought like it was previously covered I believe, she's learning to heal, work through "other's" in relationships. My first thought is scorpio asc, as at least one bf was Taurus, her being opposite his desc made me think this. Plus sag rising can be passionate, unable to turn off that factor that gets heated up -with another.
Sagittarius/ Scorpio cusp next. Because she does feel extra sag too but my third thought is Aries rising. I see Leo as long flowing maybe wavy but didn't someone say ringlets?
Idk, Aries feels more kinky curly but in today's world how many are perms vs real?
I do feel fire is most textual in hair, bounce etc. I'm fire rising, my hair looks permed every time it gets wet. Dead give away of my genes in bad climate.
Taylor did attract more Aquarius than other energies from what I noticed so you could be right, re Leo!

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Speaking of hair, I've read that Capricorn can also rule hair? Correct me if I'm wrong! This just adds more to the argument that Taylor could be a Capricorn rising.

I still have the opinion that Taylor is a Leo rising but the Capricorn rising argument is also tasty!

posted February 11, 2024 12:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
Speaking of hair, I've read that Capricorn can also rule hair? Correct me if I'm wrong! This just adds more to the argument that Taylor could be a Capricorn rising.

I still have the opinion that Taylor is a Leo rising but the Capricorn rising argument is also tasty!

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I forgot to say earlier, preppyarcher, I see your Capricorn idea too, she does have good bone structure as well. Do cappy risings have ringlets? Do we know if she's just not public about her tob or if it is unknown?

posted February 11, 2024 04:32 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
I know how her chart is mars, plutonian but -

In truth I looked through her bfs and see a typical Sagittarius theme, differing partners, most unlike the last. I did see Aquarius signs, SleepyDiary. Which made me think yeah Leo (as it is opposite), yet her hair made me think more Sagittarius, Aries but more the later imo. I looked at her guys and thought like it was previously covered I believe, she's learning to heal, work through "other's" in relationships. My first thought is scorpio asc, as at least one bf was Taurus, her being opposite his desc made me think this. Plus sag rising can be passionate, unable to turn off that factor that gets heated up -with another.
Sagittarius/ Scorpio cusp next. Because she does feel extra sag too but my third thought is Aries rising. I see Leo as long flowing maybe wavy but didn't someone say ringlets?
Idk, Aries feels more kinky curly but in today's world how many are perms vs real?
I do feel fire is most textual in hair, bounce etc. I'm fire rising, my hair looks permed every time it gets wet. Dead give away of my genes in bad climate.
Taylor did attract more Aquarius than other energies from what I noticed so you could be right, re Leo!

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