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elisa1978x
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posted February 21, 2024 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elisa1978x     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would really appreciate it if someone could give some opinion on my doubt, I was born in Recif in the -2 time zone but this was replaced by the -3 time zone. but I discovered official information about a 40-minute difference for those born where I was born. Should I adopt this 40 minute time difference on my map?
I will leave below what the official text says:
"The standardization of the observance of four time zones has since caused differences between the apparent solar time. For example, until 23:59:59 on December 31, 1913, the apparent solar time of Recif was approximately 02:19:36 behind the Greenwich Meridian, according to geographic coordinates of the capital, whose longitude is calculated at 34°54'W (34 degrees and 54 minutes west) and at 00:00:00 on January 1, 1914, instead of the clocks being advanced by 19 minutes and 36 seconds to 00:19:36, were delayed[33] by 40 minutes and 24 seconds, to 11:19:36 pm on December 31st"

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Aries23Degrees
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posted February 22, 2024 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you watched transits? Particularly those that involve Mars on both degree points?

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posted February 22, 2024 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elisa1978x     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Have you watched transits? Particularly those that involve Mars on both degree points?

I just looked at the transits, but I didn't understand the differences

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posted February 23, 2024 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by elisa1978x:
I just looked at the transits, but I didn't understand the differences

What I mean is that you can draw up a chart for both. Then wait for transiting Mars to hit either the Asc/Dsc axis. Or Ic/Mc axis.

You'll know this energy is up because you'll be more touchy/irritable than usual. Or people will easily grate on your nerves.

One of the degree placements will stimulate that. Whilst the other will not do much.

Also, you will notice that circumstances or events tend to line up for an unavoidable "bottleneck" situation when Mars is arcing to an angle

Maybe its a performance appraisal date at work ? A personal social event you are set up to attend? Or maybe indirectly invited to? Or even a standoff with a stranger at a mall/online that gets intense?

Life often confirms to us where our sensitive points are. Astrology (ime) is not just about getting the calculations right. But is also about visceral identifiable experiences.

I have had to adjust my Asc degree recently.Mars transits to the new Asc degree angle were extremely important in reaching that conclusion. Then Solar Arc progressions matched life events better.

In my experience, if Mars transits are constantly hitting a sensitive point
yearly I.e. Asc/Dsc or Ic/Mc , and you feel less "the hulk" and more like Fernando the mild-tempered bull -grazing peacefully in the fields. Something is off.☝🏿

Mars transits (especially) tend to invigorate, excite, trigger or cause one to "act".It is the fire beneath our heels that gets us to "do something".

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posted February 24, 2024 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elisa1978x     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
What I ...

wow, thank you very much for the explanation. I'll keep an eye on Mars transits now, it will be very useful. Regarding performance appraisal date at work, tomorrow Sunday I was supposed to take a job test, for months I was looking forward to this test and it was something I wanted to pass, but as I didn't study or prepare, I'm not going, I gave up. Would this be a relevant event to guide me?

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posted February 25, 2024 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by elisa1978x:
wow, thank you very much for the explanation. I'll keep an eye on Mars transits now, it will be very useful. Regarding performance appraisal date at work, tomorrow Sunday I was supposed to take a job test, for months I was looking forward to this test and it was something I wanted to pass, but as I didn't study or prepare, I'm not going, I gave up. Would this be a relevant event to guide me?

Hmmmm. That sounds more like Saturn. Mars would be sitting opposite someone answering questions that feel invasive and then you and up getting defensive and talk back/become rude etc.

Since you are not prepared to take it this Sunday, will there be another time given to you to do it? This time when better prepared?

Can I see your chart?

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posted February 25, 2024 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elisa1978x     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Hmmmm. That sounds...

I hope to upload the image correctly. This job test is in a single day test for a government job. on one side the original birth chart, on the other side is the birth chart with the time changed 40 minutes earlier.
https://ibb.co/fdS92Fs
https://i.ibb.co/yFRpXPr/astro-24gw-elisa-2024225-38344-1092588.png

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posted February 25, 2024 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This should be simpler than you think. Atleast you have time to work with.

Dates 3-13 Feb, Mars would have affected the chart adjusted to 40 minutes later. Anything stand out from those days?

For the original chart, dates 15 -28 Feb should have an event that reflects Mars.

On either dates, it doesn't have to be something life-altering that you can recall. As i said , it could be something as small as a screaming match with a family member or a service consultant.

Whatever that event was/will be, it is likely something that made you feel "this is unfair " or "something must be done" etc.

During that time,you are outraged or hot under the collar about something you felt you needed to stand up against/for . Make your displeasure and unhappy feelings known etc.

For example, in my case Mars was square my Asc and conj my Mc around Feb 7. I received really bad customer service at a Traffic department whilst renewing my driver's license.

The incident left me feeling edgy and displeased. I talked to a lot of people about it. That was an example of a Mars transit for me because the incident surfaced angry feelings .

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posted February 25, 2024 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elisa1978x     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
This should be simpler than you think.

Thank you very much, I'll keep an eye on this. On the 14th, I posted my dissatisfaction, in which I told my relatives that I didn't use perfume because I was allergic. At that moment, my relatives started talking to each other about perfumes and started using their perfumes, ignoring what I said about having allergy. I felt ignored and annoyed and posted my dissatisfaction reflecting about it on social media. The incident occurred on the 14th in the evening. As this moment is between the dates, I will wait for the next dissatisfaction, make a note, and then look at the transits.

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posted February 26, 2024 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes. That's the spirit. You should "feel" it out. We have "The transit and Mood log 2024" that we have set up in order to help members track their transit.

What you can do is write what you go through when you are feeling triggered OR when something that you believe is significant happens in any day at any time.

It can be about absolutely anything under the Sun. It matters not. And that entry on there will assist you in clarifying for you what happened at a particular time when you reflect. Coz you'll have "evidence".

This "evidence" will.give you some objective stance on your feelings. It will also enhance your ability in being able to recognize energetic patterns with planetary transits or Moon sign ingressions.

You don't have to post daily. Just when you feel.Also,you don't have to disclose details. Just whatever you feel like disclosing at that time.🙌🏿

On the date you mentioned,it's tricky to reach a conclusion.Why? Mars had just entered Aquarius at 0 Degrees(on the old old charts's Ic(family tension or inner discomfort).Yes.

But that day also had Moon in Ari trans between 21 Deg and 25 Deg (touching the adjusted chart angles)

Aries Moon can also be one Moon position that can surface angry emotions and feelings. This because Aries is ruled by Mars.So during an Aries Moon transit,one can experience emotional outbursts that are quite similar to a Mars transit.

But note the position of Mars. And see what happens when Mars is in Tau 0 on June 10th. And also on June 1st(when Mars will be on Mars 23Aries).

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posted February 26, 2024 06:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elisa1978x     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Yes. That's the spirit.

Thank you very much for your help, it will be really useful to clarify this doubt. When I have a good number of events written down I will compare the transits. Just one more question, can I observe other transits for other feelings experienced? for example, the death of relatives and pets (were they important events and have dates and times) and moments of joy of those who won or received something much desired? Once more, thank you.

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posted February 26, 2024 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by elisa1978x:
Thank you very much for your help, it will be really useful to clarify this doubt. When I have a good number of events written down I will compare the transits. Just one more question, can I observe other transits for other feelings experienced? for example, the death of relatives and pets (were they important events and have dates and times) and moments of joy of those who won or received something much desired? Once more, thank you.

Yes you can . You can use Saturn for a difficult time you went through where you had to swallow your feelings and "pull it together".

I was going to suggest that you do solar arc progressions with both charts. Starting from the one adjusted and then the one that is not.

Typically (and sadly) traumatic/painful events tend to stand out more than happy ones when verifying transits/ progressions

Depression
Hospitalization
Car accident
Traumatic incident
Health issue
Heartache
Death and loss
More responsibility or hard work etc.

Think of incidences in the past that are moderately spaced apart that feature the above. 3 incidences (atleast)should do.

The progressions and/or transits should confirm the degree. And the planet should also reflect the essence of what the incident was about.

For example depression is usually involving Neptune and Saturn.

Hospitalization is usually Saturn, Nep and Uranus

Car accident is usually Mars/Uranus and Saturn etc.

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