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posted March 02, 2024 09:36 PM            

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I find this aspect to have a tendency to be emotionally manipulative. Not in an intentional way though, almost like the melancholy that comes with this aspect holds true to the "misery loves company" saying and they use it to get their way. Like weaponized depression. Anyone else have experience with this aspect?

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posted March 03, 2024 12:10 AM            

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It's hard to say. One of my ex-friends has this. We didn't have a falling out, or anything, we just moved away.

He was almost a hater of emotion. He also felt that emotions were heavy, like a chain, locked around your legs, he felt like emotions were a burden. In short, he hated emotions! It makes sense that he had South Node in Virgo/North Node in Pisces, like me! He has to learn emotions, and compassion!

As for manipulation. Yes, he was. But, he was upfront about it, and most of his manipulation wasn't malicious!

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posted March 03, 2024 04:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
I find this aspect to have a tendency to be emotionally manipulative. Not in an intentional way though, almost like the melancholy that comes with this aspect holds true to the "misery loves company" saying and they use it to get their way. Like weaponized depression. Anyone else have experience with this aspect?

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Huge downside to Saturnians/Capricorns they also might bring others down because of insecurity on their part like they want to "rain" on your shiny day because it makes them feel insecure. You can`t be "too" happy or "too" comfortable with yourself or your life so they "need" to bring you down a notch. I knew a girl with this aspect and she would try to ruin and restrict her then boyfriend`s plans. If he had other plans outside of her she would say things like no he couldn`t go and do those things because they suddenly had this and that they HAD to do on those days so he "must" cancel she also used her psychological issues to manipulate him into doing what she wanted.

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posted March 03, 2024 08:53 PM            

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My son has moon conjunct Saturn, his dad has moon in Capricorn, and a co worker of mine has the conjunction as well.

Moon in cap (when unhealed) is the most insufferable moon I've ever met. I had to leave him because of the massive rain cloud he carries everywhere. I flat out refuse to attend any more pity parties he throws for himself.

Moon/Saturn isn't anywhere near as bad but I can see the tendency. It's more of a functioning moon than a debilitating one. I think they're more able to use the Saturn energy to power through where cap just will wallow in the misery.

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posted March 04, 2024 03:40 AM            

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i have it in aquarius. almost exact too

not sure if it’s my aquarius moon combined with saturn or scorpio rising but i can’t stand emotionally manipulative people and i usually pick up on it very quickly. i take note of it and move accordingly with that person

if i am in a saturn mood, i take a step back and deal with whatever is going on

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posted March 13, 2024 02:38 PM            

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I have this 5h. I'm very aware that I have a dark,heavy side and have to consciously "let" the other person I'm with enjoy themselves without becoming a damper but it is conscious decision to lighten up.I don't think I'm manipulative but I can be a party pooper which I keep to myself.Not a pleasant aspect to have in the house of pleasure and fun.

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posted March 27, 2024 04:54 PM            

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I have Moon in Taurus (10th house), trine Saturn in Capricorn (6th house) and also trine Mars (in Capricorn).

My mood is calm, quite melancholic and a little sad and I hate when people force me to smile and to be happy. I'm not an expansive and noisy character. People think I'm serious and maybe they think I look sad and depressed too. But they don't always accept it, although it's my nature.
Because of it, I adapt myself only to places where people seems calm, focused on what they're doing, busy with their own work and stuff. I just can't adapt to places with young noisy people ready to go off the rails, or noisy laughing people. Maybe I need control.
I hardly adapt myself to situations. Sometimes, it is even impossible to really adapt myself : my needs are strict... I can't help it.
I can also detach from emotional bonds, despite myself. And I'm quite emotionally detached, but not in the same way as hard "Moon Saturn" aspects. Being emotionally detached is not a difficult thing to experience with a good aspect, if people accept me this way.

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posted April 16, 2024 04:20 PM            

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posted May 04, 2024 04:11 AM            

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It is very much like misery loves company. But honestly only when I was young I would drag others down with me. It is not manipulative though, manipulative is more pluto-moon (which I also have).

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