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True20231
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posted March 08, 2024 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for True20231     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all

What sort of experiences would or should I be having?

Pluto has been back and forth on my Aquarius moon for a year now, the only thing that keeps happening to me is miscarriages and failed ivf obviously torment and stress, is there a point where it will ease off?

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posted March 09, 2024 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 09, 2024 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elisa1978x     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have natal chart moon conjunct Pluto in the 12th house. I will follow your post to find out if there is a relationship between your condition and the aspects. I was never pregnant (pills).

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posted March 13, 2024 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have any afflictions to Saturn either Natally or through Transits and how is your 5th house is it weak like you don`t have anything in that house or is Saturn there? I`ve noticed women who have major aspects to Saturn esp to their personal planets might have problems with getting pregnant might be because Saturn blocks and delays things while an empty 5th house might be that you won`t have many children or none at all or having Saturn there might delay this area of your life or you might not have an easy time reaching 5th house matters. It`s like wherever Saturn is that area of your life will become better with age so with a 5th house Saturn these people might have problems getting pregnant when they are young but when they are older that is when the ball start rolling in this area of their life. They might have their first child in their late 30`s or their relationships to their children might become better later in life.

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posted March 17, 2024 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for True20231     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
Do you have any afflictions to Saturn either Natally or through Transits and how is your 5th house is it weak like you don`t have anything in that house or is Saturn there? I`ve noticed women who have major aspects to Saturn esp to their personal planets might have problems with getting pregnant might be because Saturn blocks and delays things while an empty 5th house might be that you won`t have many children or none at all or having Saturn there might delay this area of your life or you might not have an easy time reaching 5th house matters. It`s like wherever Saturn is that area of your life will become better with age so with a 5th house Saturn these people might have problems getting pregnant when they are young but when they are older that is when the ball start rolling in this area of their life. They might have their first child in their late 30`s or their relationships to their children might become better later in life.

I have Mercury conjunct Venus in my 5th house but have Gemini as my 4th and 5th house.

I donít know how to link my chart

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posted April 10, 2024 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Plu-Moon can highlight emotional challenges. Ones that can have a irreversible transformative effect on the native.

So it won't be a situation that happens 'all at once".The effect of this transit is protracted over a longer period of time and dominates the internal mind (Moon) i.e. how one thinks of oneself.

The result is often that the transit deepens ones sense of emotional security. It literally "drains" all the superficial elements that make one feel "safe" and "secure".Trades them in for inner resilience and a deeper sense of self awareness. As well as emotional independence.

With this transit,the desire of being a Mom is being examined. With that, there will be an inner probe as to why you want to be a Mom so much? What is it about motherhood that will enhance your life? Is it a personal desire or a societal pressure/family expectation you are fulfilling in wanting children?

With the planets being in house 12,if the reasons are not heartfelt or internally resonant,they will fade away(12th). The 12th house is the house of this fading away or disintegrating.

This house doesn't do well in holding the tangibles that are not decorated
by deep spiritual desires or subconscious wishes that one secretly wishes they would manifest.

The 1st house is the house of manifestation or when things become "real". Can I see the chart?

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posted April 14, 2024 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for True20231     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi - how can I show you the chart? Iím not sure how you do it

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posted April 14, 2024 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for True20231     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Plu-Moon can highlight emotional challenges. Ones that can have a irreversible transformative effect on the native.

So it won't be a situation that happens 'all at once".The effect of this transit is protracted over a longer period of time and dominates the internal mind (Moon) i.e. how one thinks of oneself.

The result is often that the transit deepens ones sense of emotional security. It literally "drains" all the superficial elements that make one feel "safe" and "secure".Trades them in for inner resilience and a deeper sense of self awareness. As well as emotional independence.

With this transit,the desire of being a Mom is being examined. With that, there will be an inner probe as to why you want to be a Mom so much? What is it about motherhood that will enhance your life? Is it a personal desire or a societal pressure/family expectation you are fulfilling in wanting children?

With the planets being in house 12,if the reasons are not heartfelt or internally resonant,they will fade away(12th). The 12th house is the house of this fading away or disintegrating.

This house doesn't do well in holding the tangibles that are not decorated
by deep spiritual desires or subconscious wishes that one secretly wishes they would manifest.

The 1st house is the house of manifestation or when things become "real". Can I see the chart?


How do I post the chart? Thank you

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posted April 15, 2024 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can find assistance here. Post the chart as well as progressions to date.

https://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/218335.html

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True20231
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posted April 15, 2024 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for True20231     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
[B]You can find assistance here. Post the chart as well as progressions to date.

https://postimg.cc/yWGHVYZH

Itís not working but can you see the chart with that link?

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True20231
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posted April 15, 2024 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for True20231     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
You can find assistance here. Post the chart as well as progressions to date.

https://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/218335.html


https://postimg.cc/LnpQD7qr

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Aries23Degrees
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posted April 15, 2024 05:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@True20231

Yes. I see it. The only issue I have is that I can't see the degree and labels . Can you give me your birth details and I will pull up a chart on my end using Astro.com?

I understand the privacy issue. So in the interest of adhering to that, you can delete those details as soon a I respond with "got it".

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posted April 15, 2024 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for True20231     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
[b]@True20231

Yes. I see it. The only issue I have is that I can't see the degree and labels . Can you give me your birth details and I will pull up a chart on my end using Astro.com?

I understand the privacy issue. So in the interest of adhering to that, you can delete those details as soon a I respond with "got it".

[/B]


Sure

Thank you


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posted April 15, 2024 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got it🙌🏿

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posted April 16, 2024 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I look to the Moon- whether natal, prog Moon or solar arc for any changes.I would alo look at the Mc/Ic as well as 5th house

In your chart, Mercury rules the Ic and 5th house of children. And Jupiter rules the Mc. There is quite a bit going on but I will to be succinct.

There's an event in early Jan 2026 which highlights the areas that I think are indicative of something happening. Something that involves the 4th house of home and 5th house of children.

Firstly,your prog Moon is behind Sat. Imo, Prog Moon is important for timing of events. And I also think that for anything tangible/long lasting to happen, Sat has to be involved in some way.

Your prog Moon 22 Gem will only catch up to Sat 26 Pisc around Jan 10 2026. Even then it will still be behind it.But I am satisfied by its closer square distance by degrees.

Then prog Moon in Gem 22 will be conj prog Merc 29 Gem then. Both will be conj natal Merc 26 Gem. And trans Sat 26 Pisc will be squaring all.

Prog Moon would have moved to 5th house of children. And as stated, Natal & Prog Mercury rule the 5th and 4th house natal Both will be interacting with trans Sat at that time.

I take this to mean changes in the home(4th)that may involve the 5th(children)?But there is added responsibility there or more structure implemented as Saturn is also involved.

Solar Arc natal Sat @6 Aqua would have arced to conj the Asc 6Aqua in 2026. Again,there is something suggested here concerning you taking on more authority/ responsibility. Instituting boundaries or being paternal.

Add to this ,solar Arc Moon-Ura @6Pis would arc to square the natal Mc/Ic axis in Sag/Gem 6 respectively. Moon-Ura is often indicative of changes in the home life. Some disturbance that affects the usual running of things. This event will do that.

Trans Pluto @3Aqua in 2026 Jan,would be opp Solar Arc Merc 2Leo (ruler of the natal 4th and 5th house)marking a status change in the home that is irreversible.

Trans Sat will also conj your prog Mars in house 1.Restricted (Sat) movement (Mars) or cautionary (Sat) precautions (Mars) as a result of developing a more conservative/ careful or structured outlook during this time.

The above is often a result of getting more responsible or being charge of something. Maybe even a cautionary measure related to health/recovery from something affecting the body(1st)?

Solar Arc Jup 26Gem will be conj natal Merc (exact) then.Jup is expansive in nature and since Merc rules the 5th and 4th,the expansiveness of Jup will affect those areas.

Trans retro Jup in Can 20Deg will be conj Prog Sun in Can 19Deg. Sun rules your angular 7th house of partnerships. This event will affect that through expanding(Jup) collaboration(Sun ruling 7th) OR requiring an increased ppartnership oriented mind.

As I said,I can't guarantee that this will mean a baby. But there are too many hits involving Sat with 4th and 5th. As well as Jup on Sun during that time , to dismiss that possibility.

Add to this ,the solar arc prog on your Asc/Ic-Mc from Sat/Moon-Uranus respectively. This is likely an event that is important.

I don't know whether you are planning something that could be touching those areas too around that time? But early Jan 2026 is the date that I see when it comes to monumental changes in your 5th and 4th house.🙌🏿

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posted April 16, 2024 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for True20231     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I look to the Moon- whether natal, prog Moon or solar arc for any changes.I would alo look at the Mc/Ic as well as 5th house

In your chart, Mercury rules the Ic and 5th house of children. And Jupiter rules the Mc. There is quite a bit going on but I will to be succinct.

There's an event in early Jan 2026 which highlights the areas that I think are indicative of something happening. Something that involves the 4th house of home and 5th house of children.

Firstly,your prog Moon is behind Sat. Imo, Prog Moon is important for timing of events. And I also think that for anything tangible/long lasting to happen, Sat has to be involved in some way.

Your prog Moon 22 Gem will only catch up to Sat 26 Pisc around Jan 10 2026. Even then it will still be behind it.But I am satisfied by its closer square distance by degrees.

Then prog Moon in Gem 22 will be conj prog Merc 29 Gem then. Both will be conj natal Merc 26 Gem. And trans Sat 26 Pisc will be squaring all.

Prog Moon would have moved to 5th house of children. And as stated, Natal & Prog Mercury rule the 5th and 4th house natal Both will be interacting with trans Sat at that time.

I take this to mean changes in the home(4th)that may involve the 5th(children)?But there is added responsibility there or more structure implemented as Saturn is also involved.

Solar Arc natal Sat @6 Aqua would have arced to conj the Asc 6Aqua in 2026. Again,there is something suggested here concerning you taking on more authority/ responsibility. Instituting boundaries or being paternal.

Add to this ,solar Arc Moon-Ura @6Pis would arc to square the natal Mc/Ic axis in Sag/Gem 6 respectively. Moon-Ura is often indicative of changes in the home life. Some disturbance that affects the usual running of things. This event will do that.

Trans Pluto @3Aqua in 2026 Jan,would be opp Solar Arc Merc 2Leo (ruler of the natal 4th and 5th house)marking a status change in the home that is irreversible.

Trans Sat will also conj your prog Mars in house 1.Restricted (Sat) movement (Mars) or cautionary (Sat) precautions (Mars) as a result of developing a more conservative/ careful or structured outlook during this time.

The above is often a result of getting more responsible or being charge of something. Maybe even a cautionary measure related to health/recovery from something affecting the body(1st)?

Solar Arc Jup 26Gem will be conj natal Merc (exact) then.Jup is expansive in nature and since Merc rules the 5th and 4th,the expansiveness of Jup will affect those areas.

Trans retro Jup in Can 20Deg will be conj Prog Sun in Can 19Deg. Sun rules your angular 7th house of partnerships. This event will affect that through expanding(Jup) collaboration(Sun ruling 7th) OR requiring an increased ppartnership oriented mind.

As I said,I can't guarantee that this will mean a baby. But there are too many hits involving Sat with 4th and 5th. As well as Jup on Sun during that time , to dismiss that possibility.

Add to this ,the solar arc prog on your Asc/Ic-Mc from Sat/Moon-Uranus respectively. This is likely an event that is important.

I don't know whether you are planning something that could be touching those areas too around that time? But early Jan 2026 is the date that I see when it comes to monumental changes in your 5th and 4th house.🙌🏿


Thank you for this, I wasnít planning on do anymore ivf after this year - I was hoping to close the book on it itís destroyed my 30s.

I was told by another astrologer who works on almuten of pregnancy and she gave me some dates for this year - June and august and November - I will be doing a final embryo transfer In June.

If it doesnít work then Iím done, if I end up meeting someone and it happens then great if not I will have to just deal with it

Thank you x

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posted April 16, 2024 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by True20231:
Thank you for this, I wasnít planning on do anymore ivf after this year - I was hoping to close the book on it itís destroyed my 30s.

I was told by another astrologer who works on almuten of pregnancy and she gave me some dates for this year - June and august and November - I will be doing a final embryo transfer In June.

If it doesnít work then Iím done, if I end up meeting someone and it happens then great if not I will have to just deal with it

Thank you x


Yes. It a always best to do what is psychologically beneficial for yourself. If it should happen that you get pregnant, then it will be. I like that mentality. This instead of trying to control every little thing.

But let us know what happens on this date . It's still 2 years away. But even if you are not a part of Lindaland by then or don't post as much etc. would (personally) like to see what this event highlighted is. Baby or not 🙏🏿

And good luck with everything ❤

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