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mee_chryssa
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posted May 22, 2024 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've seen some things around this board and wanted to make a post for everyone, so I hope this will be helpfull.

1. The minor aspects
The minor aspects don't exist at all because the definition of an aspect is "to see" another placement, another house, another planet.
So for example, the inconjunction is made between two places/planets/points that don't see each other, literally and factually, they are in a 6/8 position from each other. They are blind to that spot.
The semi-sextile is the same. It's a position of 12/2.

The only aspects that are true are the major aspects. And there's a reason for that. The ASC is the first house and the ASC sees only the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th, 10th, 11th houses, which are conjunction-sextile-trine-square-opposition. Because the ASC can't see the 2nd, 6th, 8th, 12th is the reason why these houses bring so much misery and are malefic and are hidden houses because the ASC can't see them.

2. The transits
The transits should be looked from Saturn up. Which means Saturn-Jupiter-Mars....Sun and you should analyze comparing it to your chart from Sun down to Saturn and this is because the most important transits and which bring the most changes in your life will be to the luminaries and ASC/DC. The rest of the planets represent other people in your life and will not bring so much change.

When Saturn transits planets, the opposition to the luminares bring major changes and not in a good way. It's an event that changes your life without you being able to change it. Your parents could be involved in this too - Sun the father, Moon the mother.
The conjunction from Saturn to the luminaries will bring you to be cautious and you're aware of what's happening, thing that doesn't happen with the oppositon which brings it unexpected. But still it's a change.

The transits can't bring something out of a house, for a example, that it's not there. If you have a lovely 7th house, Saturn transiting it will not affect it in any way... will just rock the boat a bit and everything will be fine. Which means that whatever is in that house will be brought out. If it's nothing bad there, nothing bad will happen.

3. The gender
You have to look at the chart with the knowledge of what gender that person is.
For a man, the Venus is going to be his wife. This has nothing to do with him. The guy will express more the Sun and Mars.

If she's a woman, Mars is going to be the men around her, but it's not really her husband as it shows in a man's chart. That's Jupiter.

There are exceptions for this, but it's due to traumatic events that leads the person to switch up the gender in their psyche and for a woman will be when she doesn't feel protected and she needs to protect herself and she will start to use more Sun/Mars and the guy will switch up when he feels threatened and overpowered and doesn't have control, basically when he becomes truly vulnerable.

The same with looking at transits. Jupiter over Venus will not bring a new relationship for a woman, will only bring to the man a new relationship. For the woman will bring prosperity and a better appriciation of how she looks, improved looks.

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posted May 22, 2024 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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3. The gender
You have to look at the chart with the knowledge of what gender that person is.
For a man, the Venus is going to be his wife. This has nothing to do with him. The guy will express more the Sun and Mars.

If she's a woman, Mars is going to be the men around her, but it's not really her husband as it shows in a man's chart. That's Jupiter.

There are exceptions for this, but it's due to traumatic events that leads the person to switch up the gender in their psyche and for a woman will be when she doesn't feel protected and she needs to protect herself and she will start to use more Sun/Mars and the guy will switch up when he feels threatened and overpowered and doesn't have control, basically when he becomes truly vulnerable.


As you said there’re many exceptions for gender rules. So I find it not that useful in the modern world. Because this world is full of traumatic events where women need to use mars and men to be Venus. That’s where the ancient astrology rules fail.
Many aren’t raised in traditional families. Also, the many women need to be breadwinners or raise children alone.

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mee_chryssa
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posted May 22, 2024 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
the many women need to be breadwinners or raise children alone.

Unfortunately, this is true ... I meant that transits will work differently depending on the gender.
Just like in synastry, aspects will give different outcomes when the genders are reversed

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posted May 22, 2024 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:

3. The gender
You have to look at the chart with the knowledge of what gender that person is.
For a man, the Venus is going to be his wife. This has nothing to do with him. The guy will express more the Sun and Mars.

If she's a woman, Mars is going to be the men around her, but it's not really her husband as it shows in a man's chart. That's Jupiter.

There are exceptions for this, but it's due to traumatic events that leads the person to switch up the gender in their psyche and for a woman will be when she doesn't feel protected and she needs to protect herself and she will start to use more Sun/Mars and the guy will switch up when he feels threatened and overpowered and doesn't have control, basically when he becomes truly vulnerable.


Houses are VERY powerful i feel the Venus in Men can definitivly show the sort of women they may find themselves drawn to in their lives sometimes but ultimately i feel the 7th, 8th and 5th house Signs are the strongest in what attracts esp if you also have planets there too. Also if their Venus falls in one of the relationship houses in their Natal chart it will increase the attraction towards whatever Sign their Venus is in but if they for example have Venus in none of the relationship houses they will often find themselves attracted to a different sign than their Venus sign but they may still look for the qualities of their Venus sign in the Women their with and the same goes for Women. Like for example my Sun and Mars are in Libra and are not in any of my relationship houses and i have often found myself not attracted to Men who have my Sun and Mars Sign prominent in their chart but i have been attracted to the Signs on my 5th house cusp and 7th house and i like when they display some of the characteristic of my Sun and Mars sign instead of Males who actually have my Sun and Mars sign prominently placed somewhere in their charts so when i see a Scorpio or Cap act all charming i sometimes melt but when it actually comes from a Libra influenced man it doesn`t work in the same way and i can actually feel a more platonic or more like a "family" type of love for them instead probably because this Sign falls in my 3rd house. Also aspects are strong too whatever aspects your personal planets may show in the people around you like for example a Sun-Mars hard aspected Female might often find herself attracted to Males who are hot-headed, aggressive and slightly selfish even when her Sun and Mars are in more passive signs. Also the Moon is a really powerful influence in the chart it`s who you are at core even in Males their Moon start showing when they feel comfortable so this side is not something you will manage to "hide" for long no matter what gender you are.

Edit: I forgot to add that the Water houses 12th, 4th and 8th houses are really powerful houses too and those you might have felt the deepest love and attraction for have probably ended up with some of their personal planets in these houses in your chart.

"For a man, the Venus is going to be his wife. This has nothing to do with him. "

I don`t agree with this i have seen men express their Venus signs many times like those with a Venus in Aquarius can have a more casual or detached approach to love or treat their partners like a friend or those with Scorpio Venus can have a more intense expression of love or those with an Earth Venus will express their love through practical ways. Venus is also how you express love and the type of love you want to receive in your relationships whether you are a Male or Female like those with an Venus in Aquarius might be unconventional in their expression of love and they also appreciate someone who is unconventional too.

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posted May 23, 2024 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angryant2021     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you elaborate on point 1? I have found the sesquisquadrate and quincunx to be quite telling in a natal or Synastry chart, as long as it's within 1 degree orb.

And I'm not sure I agree with point 2... The most major changes in my life are due to Pluto changing houses or transiting over my planets.

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posted May 23, 2024 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SleepyDiary, Venus in men will signify his partner. So it will not be necessary the sign itself found in the other person, but what that Venus signifies.
So, an Aquarius Venus will be someone that is a friend and there's a distance between them, physical one.

One that has Pisces Venus will be someone that is pure in nature.

You will find more often than not, not the signs themselves, but what that sign represents. Along with the aspects.

A guy with Venus in Capricorn will have the wife older than him, especially if Saturn is conjunct. Almost all the time is. or if Saturn is in the 7th and the partner doesn't have to have Capricorn placements. The fact that she's older, it's enough.

The 7th should be looked at along with Venus.

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posted May 23, 2024 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angryant2021:
Can you elaborate on point 1? I have found the sesquisquadrate and quincunx to be quite telling in a natal or Synastry chart, as long as it's within 1 degree orb.

And I'm not sure I agree with point 2... The most major changes in my life are due to Pluto changing houses or transiting over my planets.


You had other transits that were doing this...

The minor aspects don't exist. Those aspects have to see each other to make a connection so if they're in a position that they are blind to each other, they can't make an aspect.

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posted May 23, 2024 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angryant2021     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, damn. I better throw Dynamics of Aspect Analysis by Bil Tierney in the trash.

Just looked up the date I immigrated. Pluto on NN, Uranus on Sun, Moon on Ascendant. Nothing else since minor aspects don't exist...

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posted May 23, 2024 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for itisokay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ohh
I thought I was really feeling this weird energy of quincunxes both in synastry and composite.
Maybe what we feel is that ‘lacking’ instead of the effect of an real aspect. Still, I think it is great to refer to that lack, by adjusting a symbol to it.

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posted May 23, 2024 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by itisokay:
Ohh
I thought I was really feeling this weird energy of quincunxes both in synastry and composite.
Maybe what we feel is that ‘lacking’ instead of the effect of an real aspect. Still, I think it is great to refer to that lack, by adjusting a symbol to it.

The minor aspects is the least influencial aspects in any chart. I mean you barely feel the sextiles and trines and these aspects are supposed to be major aspects, lol. The most powerful aspects are square, oppositions and conjunctions in tight or close aspects and a close runner up is the wider conjunctions, squares and opposition aspects and THEN close sextiles and trines these are the aspects that will dominate any chart and have the biggest impact and influence.

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posted May 23, 2024 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
SleepyDiary, Venus in men will signify his partner. So it will not be necessary the sign itself found in the other person, but what that Venus signifies.
So, an Aquarius Venus will be someone that is a friend and there's a distance between them, physical one.

One that has Pisces Venus will be someone that is pure in nature.

You will find more often than not, not the signs themselves, but what that sign represents. Along with the aspects.

A guy with Venus in Capricorn will have the wife older than him, especially if Saturn is conjunct. Almost all the time is. or if Saturn is in the 7th and the partner doesn't have to have Capricorn placements. The fact that she's older, it's enough.

The 7th should be looked at along with Venus.


I somewhat i agree with this and have seen this be the case a few times but i have also seen people simply go for someone that represents their 5th, 8th or 7th houses too or someone that represents their 4th house or 12th house which makes sense since the 4th is the house of home and family and anyone that ends up there might be someone you would want to settle down with or the 12th house which is the house of unconditional love and i have seen this house among couples that have had that real deep unconditional love for each other.

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posted May 25, 2024 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
I somewhat i agree with this and have seen this be the case a few times but i have also seen people simply go for someone that represents their 5th, 8th or 7th houses too or someone that represents their 4th house or 12th house which makes sense since the 4th is the house of home and family and anyone that ends up there might be someone you would want to settle down with or the 12th house which is the house of unconditional love and i have seen this house among couples that have had that real deep unconditional love for each other.

yeah, the 4th is really important too.

It's important to see what kind of relationship you saw in those people that go for the 5th or 8th. These two are somehow relationship oriented, because the children are in the 5th, and 8th is somehow related to the sexual part except that the 8th holds trash things in it. But they're not as serious as the 7th.

Venus/the 7th/ and of course the 4th, show an official marriage.

The long term relationships, without official act of the marriage, could be linked to Venus/7th house, but they're not fully there.

A friend of mine has Venus in the 12th house, and he always finds someone that is living, at first, very far from here... they meet in a foreign country or other city... He never found someone in our town. Right now, it's the third time he's done it.
And because that Venus rules the 5th, he never married any of them. Posibly he'll do it now.
And because the 12th is a house of loss... he always refers to them as using him after the break up... He supported the first one through her college degree, the second one the same all through her college degree and after she finished, they broke up.
Keep in mind, he has this natally.
In synastry, depends on the planet that is in the 12th house.

when you look at Venus, look at sign, for dignity, aspects, its placement, and what houses she rules. In this order, specifically.

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posted May 25, 2024 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And if the ruler of the 7th is in the 5th, you will not see any predicament there, because those that have this, can form relationship with anyone they meet.

5th it's a lucky house and anything that's there will multiply, it's also the house of gambling, and if Venus is there and/or 7th in 5th, they can stay long term in many types of relationships.
More than one planet in the 7th also does this. Because they will experience each planet on their own in their relationships.

There are some other signs, but I can't remember them right now.

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posted June 17, 2024 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoldenSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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