posted May 31, 2024 02:32 PM            

Usually that chosen people are not seeking it or maybe even in denial and refuse it until later they must accept it and they don't brag about it.

The key here is: they are not seeking it. It just comes naturally.

That's why it is called a gift. It is not expected and they usually don't want it but must accept it. If they decide to keep the gift, the first thing they do is they become a helper to other people's problem than their own. Until they have to learn to be more selective and protect themselve from people who use their gifts.

But sometimes there are people who can learn it better than others because maybe they posses some psychic indicators in their natal chart. This people are usually always in search about that ability to make them be able to have it. Once they learn about it, first thing they do is they start use it as a guard to protect themselve from possible harm by analyzing situation and people who come to them. If they decide to help people, you can sense some of personal judgement based on their own personal experience.

posted June 01, 2024 01:12 AM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
I believe psychic people are a chosen one.

Usually that chosen people are not seeking it or maybe even in denial and refuse it until later they must accept it and they don't brag about it.

The key here is: they are not seeking it. It just comes naturally.

That's why it is called a gift. It is not expected and they usually don't want it but must accept it. If they decide to keep the gift, the first thing they do is they become a helper to other people's problem than their own. Until they have to learn to be more selective and protect themselve from people who use their gifts.

But sometimes there are people who can learn it better than others because maybe they posses some psychic indicators in their natal chart. This people are usually always in search about that ability to make them be able to have it. Once they learn about it, first thing they do is they start use it as a guard to protect themselve from possible harm by analyzing situation and people who come to them. If they decide to help people, you can sense some of personal judgement based on their own personal experience.

it's like: born smart and smart from learning.

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I’m confused. Are you saying I’m one of those ppl trying to seek it because my natal chart?
You’re saying ppl who have psychic abilities might not know it… but how else would they realize they are psychic if they are not seeking it. Doesn’t it work on a subconscious level? If it does then they would have to be trying to seek answers to themselves to even realize they have it?

Im wondering what ppl mean by “psychic” ? Like are you referring to ppl actually have visions like you see in the movies? Because I thought that wasn’t real. I can see that being a gift. But as far as what I thought was true psychic abilities I thought they work on a more energetic level.

I have no real ideas about any of this. When I was younger I thought maybe psychics in the movies who get actual visions could be real, but they are extremely rare. Now that I’m older I’m not sure they are real, but I realize is probably more intuitive.

posted June 01, 2024 01:14 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I think we're all capable of experiencing it.

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posted June 01, 2024 03:11 AM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
I’m confused. Are you saying I’m one of those ppl trying to seek it because my natal chart?
You’re saying ppl who have psychic abilities might not know it… but how else would they realize they are psychic if they are not seeking it. Doesn’t it work on a subconscious level? If it does then they would have to be trying to seek answers to themselves to even realize they have it?

Im wondering what ppl mean by “psychic” ? Like are you referring to ppl actually have visions like you see in the movies? Because I thought that wasn’t real. I can see that being a gift. But as far as what I thought was true psychic abilities I thought they work on a more energetic level.

I have no real ideas about any of this. When I was younger I thought maybe psychics in the movies who get actual visions could be real, but they are extremely rare. Now that I’m older I’m not sure they are real, but I realize is probably more intuitive.

And how do you actually know that you are psychic? How do you know you have this “gift”? I would think if someone was given such a gift there would be indicators of it in a chart. Since it is like a snapshot of our soul. Even if it’s through the nodes or something. Shouldn’t there be indicators?
I wonder why these astrology books and websites make it seem like psychic abilities are seen through the natal chart. Especially when it comes to the 8th/12th house Pisces/Scorpio and cancer energy, so many astrologers say they are indicators of psychic abilities or intuitive on a psychic level

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It's hard to explain more if you don't have the gift, because you will have a hard time to relate.

Gifted people just knew they are different but do not aware of it (deny it, refuse it, or do not believe they are gifted) and usually somehow this universe send other people (even strangers) tell them that they have something unique, something different than the rest majority of people in this world, they may be very intelligence, they may be a healer, psychich world is so wide actually, because it is almost like you have an access to higher spectrum (it's just not a standard human intuition or feelings because anyone in this world can have it, some people may use it, some may not really use it). If they accept it, universe will send people or even a situation to guide them. Do not ever think the process will be that easy. They don't seek (because the gift is already at their hand), universe will create it for them (guide them to use their gift to help or inspire other people).

Meanwhile people who can learn it better than others, may get their interest into this subject. May have a lot of questions and confusion series, and may put a claim on themselves later like maybe can read other people, having a strong intuition, etc (it doesn't mean it's a bad thing, but usually gifted people do not comfortable claiming, they keep quiet because it feels natural for them, like they think nothing special about it - they will come across being humble about their gift). And usually those feelings, intuition, anyone can have it but they may have it stronger and focus on it rather than let say logic people.

posted June 01, 2024 04:35 AM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
It's hard to explain more if you don't have the gift, because you will have a hard time to relate.

Gifted people just knew they are different but do not aware of it (deny it, refuse it, or do not believe they are gifted) and usually somehow this universe send other people (even strangers) tell them that they have something unique, something different than the rest majority of people in this world, they may be very intelligence, they may be a healer, psychich world is so wide actually, because it is almost like you have an access to higher spectrum (it's just not a standard human intuition or feelings because anyone in this world can have it, some people may use it, some may not really use it). If they accept it, universe will send people or even a situation to guide them. Do not ever think the process will be that easy. They don't seek (because the gift is already at their hand), universe will create it for them (guide them to use their gift to help or inspire other people).

Meanwhile people who can learn it better than others, may get their interest into this subject. May have a lot of questions and confusion series, and may put a claim on themselves later like maybe can read other people, having a strong intuition, etc (it doesn't mean it's a bad thing, but usually gifted people do not comfortable claiming, they keep quiet because it feels natural for them, like they think nothing special about it - they will come across being humble about their gift). And usually those feelings, intuition, anyone can have it but they may have it stronger and focus on it rather than let say logic people.

Based on your post's title, I'll give you an example of gifted people and people who can learn it better than other people. So you can pick in which side are you, that's the first thing you need to know, then try to work on your confusion because it's typical Pisces or 12th house or Neptune confusion.

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Perhaps you are right, but maybe you can also be wrong. Everyone likes to believe they are special. Myself included. SO many ppl out there claim to be healers and claim they felt different from others. I also have felt that way, but then I realize that it’s probably all in my head. I feel like we all live so immersed in our own realities, it’s so easy for us to accept our perceptions and experiences as “true”.
I go on YouTube and you know how many ppl from all religious/spiritual backgrounds claiming they get messages and they are a seer? So who is telling the truth and who is lying? They truly believe they know the truth.
I never understood how ppl can be so sure they are right and that their truth is the real truth. I just can’t comprehend it when life is such a mystery. I’d imagine anyone who’d feel like they are psychic would be unsure of entirely when feeling and trying to understand the entire world as a whole is so confusing because of all the conflicting feelings and perceptions we all have.

posted June 01, 2024 05:39 AM            

I don't see I'm claiming anything here, so i don't think I need to post my natal chart. This is simply based on my experience seeing gifted people I know and people who can learn it better than other people. (Don't ask me to put those gifted people's chart, gifted people are chosen by the universe not someone who can be analized through simply their natal chart)

Just to let you know that I have pisces in my personal planet and also 12th house, so I know the confusion around it and not going to swim deeper into it. First thing to do, you need to put where are you in that category.

posted June 01, 2024 06:25 AM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
The example is in my first reply. Just try to read it again.

I don't see I'm claiming anything here, so i don't think I need to post my natal chart. This is simply based on my experience seeing gifted people I know and people who can learn it better than other people. (Don't ask me to put those gifted people's chart, gifted people are chosen by the universe not someone who can be analized through simply their natal chart)

Just to let you know that I have pisces in my personal planet and also 12th house, so I know the confusion around it and not going to swim deeper into it. First thing to do, you need to put where are you in that category.

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“It's hard to explain more if you don't have the gift, because you will have a hard time to relate.”
I guess this comment made me feel like you are insinuating that you have this gift. That’s why you think you can’t explain it because you don’t think I (or anyone not psychic) would understand. Idk it seems like you kind of are putting yourself in that category by how you worded it.

I don’t quite understand why you say I figure which category I am in, when it sounds to me you already made a decision for me. Without really knowing much about me.

In any case, I think your definitions of psychic is different from what I meant for my post. It sounds to me like you are describing more of a messiah or prophet. So if a psychic is is more like that I think I should have used a better term.

I guess I’m talking about ppl with natural heightened intuition. Those who can read the room well and are pretty spot on with what they sense.
I don’t believe you have to be a “chosen one” to have that.

So if a psychic is a “chosen” one, then Im for sure not a psychic. I know Im not particularly more special than anyone else, so I wouldn’t bother making a post asking about something obvious to me. Even if I do feel a special connection with God that doesn’t make me a chosen one unfortunately.
And personally the only ppl I believe to have been like you described are the mythical prophets like Moses, Buddha, Muhammad, etc ppl who are believed to have walked the earth but their actual existence is still a mystery. I don’t believe there is currently any of those types of ppl in our world right now. They are so rare they probably only come once every century

posted June 01, 2024 03:44 PM            

"I would consider Air Moons the least intuitive. It's quite contradictory for them because their intellect can get in the way and intuition isn't intellect. They're very good, though, at knowing when things don't follow a line of logic. "This doesn't add up." However, Aquarius Moon often has excellent intuition. Everyone has intuition, though, and it's represented by your Moon. It's all a matter of how it manifests and is expressed.

But, Water Moon intuition runs really deep. It's to the point where we have no idea that we're being intuitive. It's a mysterious, powerful thing and can make us seem pretty crazy. This is why we might, ironically, have the hardest time trusting our gut because we're used to feeling/appearing so irrational when we do! I'd say that we have to learn how to embrace feeling kind of loony, though, because that's when we're most intuitive. We need to be able to go off the rails just a little bit.

The way I always look at it is Cancer Moon's intuition is very nurturing. They instantly know what's wrong with you and how to make it better. Scorpio Moon's intuition is very perceptive. We can automatically see through people and things and into the deeper motives. Pisces Moon's intuition is very psychic. Just being able to pick up different thoughts and emotions floating through the air and feeling them as if they are their own.

Hope that makes sense."

posted June 01, 2024 04:20 PM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
“It's hard to explain more if you don't have the gift, because you will have a hard time to relate.”
I guess this comment made me feel like you are insinuating that you have this gift. That’s why you think you can’t explain it because you don’t think I (or anyone not psychic) would understand. Idk it seems like you kind of are putting yourself in that category by how you worded it.

I don’t quite understand why you say I figure what side I am on. When it sounds to me you already made a decision if I even have any psychic gifts or not without knowing much about me. So I guess you already made that judgement for me?

In any case, I think your definitions of psychic is different from what I meant for my post. It sounds to me like you are describing more of a messiah or prophet. So if a psychic is is more like that I think I should have used a better term. I guess I’m talking about ppl with natural heightened intuition. Those who can read the room well and are pretty spot on with what they sense.
I don’t believe you have to be a “chosen one” to have that.

So if a psychic is a “chosen” one, then Im for sure not a psychic. I know Im not particularly special so I wouldn’t bother making a post about that, because I know Im not more chosen than anyone else. I feel a special connection with God but that’s it. Im not a chosen one. And personally the only ppl I believe to have been like you described are the mythical prophets like Moses, Buddha, Muhammad, etc ppl who are believed to have walked the earth but their actual existence is still a mystery.

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You asked: "Why do I have so many psychic indicators in my chart but don’t have any gifts?"

I replied: my first post

I don't think I have made a decision for you here because I am asking where do you think you are between those categories. It means, I let you make a decision.

I know some gifted people, and like I said before, psychic world is so wide, not just what you think it is. Gifted people will always want to learn what they have got, meanwhile the others will always want to know what they want to know.

A chosen one doesn't mean feeling special. I don't think gifted people feel very special about it, I believe they feel cursed to have it. That's another differences you see. They will secretly ask some people who wants to have the gift, "why do you want to have gifts?"

I don't get it why some people think highly about 'the chosen one' like if they feel they are not special or nothing special about them if they are not 'the chosen one'?? It just means that gifted people have bigger duties in this world and it's not a fun ride.

Each human in this world is special, but universe chooses this gifted people to have bigger responsibility, not making them feel more superior or special to others, it's just a matter of people perspectives.

Gifted people may have psychic indicators (may have not).
Having psychic indicators doesn't mean gifted people, it may be people who can learn it better than others.

posted June 01, 2024 04:37 PM            

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I feel anything related to intuition has something to do with your Moon. The most intuitive placements in my experience are the Water Moons. It`s also a difference between just having your Moon in a Water house vs actually having your Moon in a Water sign and i have seen this time and time again. I have seen people with water placements elsewhere on their planets or through houses but their Moons have been in a non Watery sign and it has not made them very intuitive or "psychic" but maybe more emotional and sensitive esp in regards to themselves or if they have Neptune on their Moon it might have "soften" their Moon sign or Pluto intensified their Moon sign but the qualities of the actual Sign of their Moon sign is still very much there. I realised this years ago between family, friends of mine and myself. I was a lot more sensitive and intuitive to their needs and feelings and would often take on their moods too while not receiving the same intuitive understanding back. One was actually an 8th house Aries moon, 12th house Sun with Mercury and Venus in Cancer while another had a Scorpio rising with pluto conjunction, 12th house Scorpio venus and an 8th house Cancer mars and they were not as nearly as sensitive as i was which i thought were confusing because they have more Water placements then i do but yet i was the one that was more aware of other peoples feelings compared to them and would just "pick" it up without even wanting to. Here is something the89freespirit explained so well one time about how intuition is like for us Water moon sign people and also other Moon signs

"I would consider Air Moons the least intuitive. It's quite contradictory for them because their intellect can get in the way and intuition isn't intellect. They're very good, though, at knowing when things don't follow a line of logic. "This doesn't add up." However, Aquarius Moon often has excellent intuition. Everyone has intuition, though, and it's represented by your Moon. It's all a matter of how it manifests and is expressed.

But, Water Moon intuition runs really deep. It's to the point where we have no idea that we're being intuitive. It's a mysterious, powerful thing and can make us seem pretty crazy. This is why we might, ironically, have the hardest time trusting our gut because we're used to feeling/appearing so irrational when we do! I'd say that we have to learn how to embrace feeling kind of loony, though, because that's when we're most intuitive. We need to be able to go off the rails just a little bit.

The way I always look at it is Cancer Moon's intuition is very nurturing. They instantly know what's wrong with you and how to make it better. Scorpio Moon's intuition is very perceptive. We can automatically see through people and things and into the deeper motives. Pisces Moon's intuition is very psychic. Just being able to pick up different thoughts and emotions floating through the air and feeling them as if they are their own.

Hope that makes sense."

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The thing is when it comes to moods and feelings/vibes I feel like I’m pretty good at reading it though… Im very much aware of what other people are feeling and I would say I have pretty good perception. It affects my mood and I was always very sensitive as a child.
But sometimes Im not sure when to trust something because I want to give something the benefit of the doubt.

But I feel some ppl are way better at trusting it. Ironically they are not always water moons.

Actually it’s funny cause in my experience there are water moons I know not very aware of the energy

We can’t just limit ourselves to moon sign only? So many ppl I know with the same moon/sun combo who couldn’t be more different from eachother. Not to mention water moons are not rare and quite common. I would imagine psychic abilities can not be so broad

posted June 01, 2024 05:15 PM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
The thing is when it comes to moods and feelings/vibes I feel like I’m pretty good at reading it though… Im very much aware of what other people are feeling and I would say I have pretty good perception. It affects my mood and I was always very sensitive as a child.
But sometimes Im not sure when to trust something because I want to give something the benefit of the doubt.

But I feel some ppl are way better at trusting it. Ironically they are not always water moons.

Actually it’s funny cause in my experience there are water moons I know not very aware of the energy

We can’t just limit ourselves to moon sign only? So many ppl I know with the same moon/sun combo who couldn’t be more different from eachother. Not to mention water moons are not rare and quite common. I would imagine psychic abilities can not be so broad

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posted June 01, 2024 05:30 PM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
The thing is when it comes to moods and feelings/vibes I feel like I’m pretty good at reading it though… Im very much aware of what other people are feeling and I would say I have pretty good perception. It affects my mood and I was always very sensitive as a child.
But sometimes Im not sure when to trust something because I from want to give something the benefit of the doubt.

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I don’t think reading people has something to do with intuition. On the opposite, people emotions are their personal things. I often want to say water people Don’t read me and don’t take it personally. It hurts me also when they take my personal things too seriously. I probably never take myself that seriously lol

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Actually it’s funny cause in my experience there are water moons I know not very aware of the energy”

We can’t just limit ourselves to moon sign only? So many ppl I know with the same moon/sun combo who couldn’t be more different from eachother. Not to mention water moons are not rare and quite common. I would imagine psychic abilities can not be so broad

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[QUOTE][B] I also find it interesting how so many ppl believe they have more gifts than others.

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posted June 01, 2024 06:06 PM            

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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
"That’s where often difference between water and air. Water doesn’t give the benefit of the doubt. Whatever they feel or read from people is the real for them. I can change or project different emotions that’s where they get unhappy because they cannot classified me or getting swayed by my emotional state. But they can read each other. Many things still go through your own perception.
I don’t think reading people has something to do with intuition. On the opposite, people emotions are their personal things. I often want to say water people Don’t read me and don’t take it personally. It hurts me also when they take my personal things too seriously. I probably never take myself that seriously lol.The many women think they're intuitive… But the gift is the other thing."

And many people like to deny what they feel which we often see right through. We don`t say we are "intuitive" just from thin air and you are naive to even think so. It comes through our experiences with people and having our gut feeling proving to be true.

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So you think you know someone else’s feelings more than they know themselves? I feel like that’s a very bold way to think. No matter how intuitive you feel you are, you can never claim to truly know how someone is feeling.
Sometimes certain people have less self awareness, so maybe others see them clearer than they seem themselves, but you don’t have to be psychic or hyper intuitive to see that. It’s obvious to everyone.

posted June 01, 2024 06:14 PM            

For me, someone with a strong Pisces and 12th house stellium may be someone who serves others.....behind the scenes! You might be a nurse at a hospital for the elderly. Pisces is invisible. Or you could be someone who reads tarot for others online.

There are endless possibilities to what a Pisces and 12th house stellium means. Why jump to a conclusion? Again, no snot or sourness here; Just a question for you!

posted June 01, 2024 06:18 PM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
[b] The thing is when it comes to moods and feelings/vibes I feel like I’m pretty good at reading it though… Im very much aware of what other people are feeling and I would say I have pretty good perception. It affects my mood and I was always very sensitive as a child.
But sometimes Im not sure when to trust something because I from want to give something the benefit of the doubt.

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I don’t think reading people has something to do with intuition. On the opposite, people emotions are their personal things. I often want to say water people Don’t read me and don’t take it personally. It hurts me also when they take my personal things too seriously. I probably never take myself that seriously lol

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Actually it’s funny cause in my experience there are water moons I know not very aware of the energy”

We can’t just limit ourselves to moon sign only? So many ppl I know with the same moon/sun combo who couldn’t be more different from eachother. Not to mention water moons are not rare and quite common. I would imagine psychic abilities can not be so broad

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posted June 01, 2024 06:26 PM            

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Are you sure you're meant to be psychic? Why do you jump to that conclusion (just to be clear, I know you can't read my tone online, but I'm being nice not sour here)?

For me, someone with a strong Pisces and 12th house stellium may be someone who serves others.....behind the scenes! You might be a nurse at a hospital for the elderly. Pisces is invisible. Or you could be someone who reads tarot for others online.

There are endless possibilities to what a Pisces and 12th house stellium means. Why jump to a conclusion? Again, no snot or sourness here; Just a question for you!

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posted June 01, 2024 06:36 PM            

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So you think you know someone else’s feelings more than they know themselves? I feel like that’s a very bold way to think. No matter how intuitive you feel you are, you can never claim to truly know how someone is feeling.
Sometimes certain people have less self awareness, so maybe others see them clearer than they seem themselves, but you don’t have to be psychic or hyper intuitive to see that. It’s obvious to everyone.

But to believe you know others more than they know themselves seems kind of self-righteous. It would drive anyone crazy if you claim to know what they are feeling and think you are right. Rightfully so. I would definitely get upset.

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posted June 01, 2024 06:41 PM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
Actually I guess not necessarily psychic but maybe having some spiritual purpose. I was just wondering about the psychic aspect of astrology. I’m really just trying to figure out what my Pisces/12th house placements mean for me.
Because so far it isn’t so clear for me. Not just in psychic ability but the Pisces /12th house themes. Because I feel like all I’m good for is daydreaming.
I’m not kidding 80% or so of my life I spend daydreaming. My fantasies are so much more rich and happier than reality.
It’s so bad that I can’t do anything tangible. That includes being of service to others. Or even exploring creative outlets. 10 minutes in and I’m already drifting off into daydreaming. The older I get the more I yearn to find something meaningful to me that doesn’t include me wasting my life away daydreaming.
I guess I’m lost and seeking guidance

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If you have a 1st house stellium, in Pisces, I just read this as also 'independence (1st house)' and 'isolation' (12th house)!

Or you could use your physical body (1st house) to swim (Pisces)!

posted June 01, 2024 07:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
Are you sure you're meant to be psychic? Why do you jump to that conclusion (just to be clear, I know you can't read my tone online, but I'm being nice not sour here)?

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Actually, many here seem triggered and edgy / not nice about the topic. I’m surprised as there were many people before to claim to be special or have supernatural abilities, but locals sounded more supportive.