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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 20, 2024 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
Neptune leaving Pisces would signal to me the end of the manipulation and deception from the drug companies. I think Neptune rules pharmaceuticals and drugs of all kinds. Neptune is in its natural house in Pisces, but that does not mean that it cannot be used negatively by certain forces. Especially as it stood opposite Virgo, the sign that rules health.

As for Uranus in Taurus. Taurus is normally a pretty conservative element that plays it safe and is slow to anger and take action. Uranus there has shaken things up, and we have seen conservatives getting out of their comfort zone to challenge the system in ways we had not seen before.

We have also seen people who would normally not consider themselves conservative, change in unpredictable ways and move toward more conservative thought systems. Ex Rogan and Musk. And yours truly... It does not mean such people are going to remain in conservative spheres for the rest of their lives though...


Interesting.🤔. Thank you for that. I am still observing Uranus in Taurus.

This country(South Africa)is in my opinion, extremely sensitive to Neptune on Pisces. Spirituality and related issues has increased exponentially in this country.

There are TV programs exploring these issues, celebrities coming out to have spiritually related gifts( something here we refer to as a "calling" by the Ancestors/ Guides)and a lot more open-mindedness by ordinary folks who(in the past) would have dismissed things such as Tarot, Astrology and Mediumship etc. As "The Devil's work" ☝🏿

Also with this( as would be with Neptune) are scam artists and con men. I find it interesting that charismatic Nigerian television "healer" TB Joshua ,passed on when Netpune was in Pisces.

So called "Prophet" Bushiri fled this country and went back to his own country (Malawi) to evade investigation by the local police for alleged fraud.😶

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posted December 21, 2024 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, that reminds me of the hawk tuah girl. Some sort of crypto scam.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hawk-tuah-coin-lawsuit-crypto-b26 68157.html

http://www.famousbirthdays.com/people/hailey-welch.html

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posted December 21, 2024 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
That sounds very astrologically plausible and makes a lot of sense.


Thank you.

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posted December 21, 2024 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Civil War would be extreme, but violence and civil unrest seem more and more plausible. I’ve been thinking about what I see in the charts of Vance and Musk. And honestly, a scenario where Trump is sidelined because of his health isn’t “out there”. He’s 78 and is going to be the oldest president of the U.S. ever. And that’s when things could get very unhinged. But even if Musk just keeps growing his influence, people will get restless because he’s unelected.

We’ve had different kinds of political violence for years.

This one guy was just charged with terrorism, but nothing was done about the “your body, my choice” boys and men. The guy who started it, was arrested after he maced a woman who rang his doorbell.

Speaking of which: Gisele Pelicot. Her husband was drugging her, and I’ll let anyone google the rest. That’s Neptune, too, right there. Or Pluto.

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posted December 21, 2024 05:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
We’ve had different kinds of political violence for years.

This one guy was just charged with terrorism, but nothing was done about the “your body, my choice” boys and men. The guy who started it, was arrested after he maced a woman who rang his doorbell.

Speaking of which: Gisele Pelicot. Her husband was drugging her, and I’ll let anyone google the rest. That’s Neptune, too, right there. Or Pluto.


I’m surprised they hit him with a terrorism charge. Especially when there have been several attacks aimed at women where the murderers also engaged in incel misogynistic propaganda but were still not treated as terrorism. It seems they are more worried about “class violence” than “gender violence”. That is very much like Pluto in Aquarius.

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posted December 22, 2024 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Preppyarcher7989Wiff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Civil War would be extreme, but violence and civil unrest seem more and more plausible. I’ve been thinking about what I see in the charts of Vance and Musk. And honestly, a scenario where Trump is sidelined because of his health isn’t “out there”. He’s 78 and is going to be the oldest president of the U.S. ever. And that’s when things could get very unhinged. But even if Musk just keeps growing his influence, people will get restless because he’s unelected.

Late reply here.

Yup, sounds more likely. Likely that there will likely be more political violence rather than some kind of full on Civil War.

Saturn and Neptune, both hitting Aries, and conjuncting, make me a little nervous, to be quite honest!

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posted December 22, 2024 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frida     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Government collapsed in France, then in Germany, Trudeau is being called to resign... Asad fled Syria. There will be a shift soon in the US with Trump and his team. And there's more going on in other smaller countries.

We are going through a lot.

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posted December 23, 2024 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Government collapsed in France, then in Germany, Trudeau is being called to resign... Asad fled Syria. There will be a shift soon in the US with Trump and his team. And there's more going on in other smaller countries.

We are going through a lot.


Even though European countries are having issues, I don’t think it even comes close to the current energy in the U.S. Trump has been very rude towards several countries, with Panama and Greenland being new low points. I suspect a reaction from NATO. The current Secretary General has transit Pluto square his natal Scorpio Mars. Transit Mars will retrograde into emotionally reactive Cancer around 7 January 2025. If Trump uses this to quit NATO, as he has hinted before, and he immediately starts diplomacy with Putin, you know this has been a set up from the start.

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posted December 23, 2024 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frida     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Even though European countries are having issues, I don’t think it even comes close to the current energy in the U.S. Trump has been very rude towards several countries, with Panama and Greenland being new low points. I suspect a reaction from NATO. The current Secretary General has transit Pluto square his natal Scorpio Mars. Transit Mars will retrograde into emotionally reactive Cancer around 7 January 2025. If Trump uses this to quit NATO, as he has hinted before, and he immediately starts diplomacy with Putin, you know this has been a set up from the start.

Somebody here also brought up that both Trump and Vance have Asc at 27-29 Leo, meaning they will be going through Uranus square Asc whole next year.

I have to choose to believe in people as a whole otherwise I’ll fall into despair… I live in a big US city and I’m heartbroken, constantly, looking at illness, filth and Teslas all together on the streets. And many people just brush it off, saying oh you should just ignore the homeless. How in the world can you ignore people suffering because of the system that is obviously not working. And what, chase the money, be overworked, isolated in a bubble, behind a gate, like a robot? A lot of people are still cut off from reality. This is not normal how we live. I am afraid it will take something drastic for things to change.

Europe will go through a lot too. They have big problems and in addition whatever happens in the US will affect them as well.

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posted December 23, 2024 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 24, 2024 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That was the point of Trump’s campaign to stop helping the other countries and start to build economy of his country. NATO needs US.
He got elected because Americans tired from the political and social values what don’t manifest in the real life. And that’s why he would be giving a pass for a while to go against the typical and expectations.

I can understand how Americans are tired with the status quo. There’s enormous inequality and the justice system favors those that are in power. But you have to ask yourself if Trump is really going to change the system he benefits from so much?

Look at his picks for cabinet. So many billionaires and millionaires. To me it looks like he is trying to get as much as possible out of the system for himself. And is looking out for “number 1” what’s going to make the U.S. a great place to live? A lot of European countries that have incorporated “socialist” policies into their government are considered the best countries to live in. Right now, the U.S. is heading in the direction of Russia, which is not communist but an oligarchy, and not such a great place to live in if for the average person.

Only time will tell, but I don’t think that having a corrupt billionaire ruling class running the country is going to bring the changes you are looking for. But it will bring systemic inequalities and corruption to the surface. If anything, Pluto in Aquarius will confront us with the ugly truth.

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posted December 24, 2024 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Somebody here also brought up that both Trump and Vance have Asc at 27-29 Leo, meaning they will be going through Uranus square Asc whole next year.

I have to choose to believe in people as a whole otherwise I’ll fall into despair… I live in a big US city and I’m heartbroken, constantly, looking at illness, filth and Teslas all together on the streets. And many people just brush it off, saying oh you should just ignore the homeless. How in the world can you ignore people suffering because of the system that is obviously not working. And what, chase the money, be overworked, isolated in a bubble, behind a gate, like a robot? A lot of people are still cut off from reality. This is not normal how we live. I am afraid it will take something drastic for things to change.

Europe will go through a lot too. They have big problems and in addition whatever happens in the US will affect them as well.


The planetary transits will impact all countries. The switch from Pluto in Capricorn to Aquarius is going to bring a change in energy. Systemic inequalities in society will become very visible. In a lot of European countries we have an aging population, a housing crisis and a general lack of trust in government. People are on edge. But it’s also an opportunity to address issues that need to be changed. I work for the government and I see a shift in focus from rules and regulations (Capricorn) to people and their experiences (Aquarius). Change will be difficult if you resist it, but it brings opportunities if you embrace it.

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posted December 24, 2024 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was born on the 29th degree. And this past week there was something that happened to illustrate this "waiting game" I spoke of.

We only found out last week (20th)that our account at home was blocked by the municipality from loading electricity as we allegedly owed monies.

The issue is still pending investigation bit the trick was that once the electricity runs out, we can be in the dark until the issue is resolved(whenever that is)

We however decided not to wait for the municipality to sort the issue and wanted to attend to it immediately.

The unfortunate thing was that we couldn't do it on the 20th(28 Degrees Sag) because the offices were closed by the time we got the notice.

So we had to wait for the Monday this week (Cap 1Deg) before anything could be solved.🤷🏿‍♂️

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posted December 31, 2024 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for frida     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will they change the signs already, this is exhausting!


For me especially Uranus at last degrees of Taurus. Literally just waiting on things that don't depend on me and counting days... so frustrating. I suspect things will start moving once it goes direct again.

Uranus has been killing me since 13 degrees, ugh… hopefully there will be a decade of peace after that ☺️ Until Pluto in Aquarius starts hitting personal planets and angles one by one.

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posted January 01, 2025 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by frida:
Will they change the signs already, this is exhausting!


For me especially Uranus at last degrees of Taurus. Literally just waiting on things that don't depend on me and counting days... so frustrating. I suspect things will start moving once it goes direct again.

Uranus has been killing me since 13 degrees, ugh… hopefully there will be a decade of peace after that ☺️ Until Pluto in Aquarius starts hitting personal planets and angles one by one.


I get it! Uranus starts to not play nice when it gets from 8 degrees to 28 degrees in my chart. I have all the fixed signs in my chart! I had a divorce. It’s also has been more of a self expression time. The end result though is it trining my Saturn. I didn’t think the retrograde was going that far back…I was kind of starting to think the trine Saturn transit was a big nothing for what I had hopped for.

It’s exactly square my Mars sign now. I had the blow off steam phase, and now I refuse to give any one the time of day right now.

When it enters Gemini it will square my Venus people can have some serious commitment issues when they have this transit. There is a part of me that is tired of being single and then I’m like, oh great that transit is next for me. But after that so many trines conjunctions and sextiles! (I have no Virgo in my chart! No Sagittarius unless you count DC lol)

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posted January 01, 2025 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemmi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus and Neptune changing signs should be quite significant for me because they will affect planets in my angular houses in mutable signs which are heavily represented in my chart.

Uranus will enter my 10th house in Gemini and will make several challenging aspects to my planets and points (including Sun, Moon, Venus, MC, ASC, Neptune, Uranus). My career has been going quite smoothly for almost a decade. I am prepared that there will be some change at work, most likely unexpected and I do not particularly look forward to it…

Neptune and Saturn leaving Pisces and my 7th house is another story. My 7th house has been treated very badly with many difficult transits ever since Uranus entered Pisces, 20 years ago. When Uranus finally left in 2011 and I though that nothing worse can happen to me, Chiron immediately entered the house, closely followed by Neptune… and now Saturn is there. When Saturn leaves it early next year, I will have gone through 28 difficult transits from this house which happened in the last 20 years. Which means that I always had at least one difficult transit from the 7th house during that time. I don’t even want to go into details what I have gone through and what my social and love life have looked like…I just want it to be over.

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posted January 02, 2025 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frida     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I get it! Uranus starts to not play nice when it gets from 8 degrees to 28 degrees in my chart. I have all the fixed signs in my chart! I had a divorce. It’s also has been more of a self expression time. The end result though is it trining my Saturn. I didn’t think the retrograde was going that far back…I was kind of starting to think the trine Saturn transit was a big nothing for what I had hopped for.

It’s exactly square my Mars sign now. I had the blow off steam phase, and now I refuse to give any one the time of day right now.

When it enters Gemini it will square my Venus people can have some serious commitment issues when they have this transit. There is a part of me that is tired of being single and then I’m like, oh great that transit is next for me. But after that so many trines conjunctions and sextiles! (I have no Virgo in my chart! No Sagittarius unless you count DC lol)


I feel like over time since I'm here, your posts have been getting more and more positive It sounds like a lot of progress has been made in recent years!
Same here, all personal planets, nodes and angles in fixed signs. Except Mars at 8* Pisces. I noticed that by the time any transiting planet reaches Mars, after aspecting everything else, I barely notice it! Or the effects are mostly positive. I suppose that by that time I'm already so used to the energy.

I wonder if that's the case for you when a transiting planet reaches your Venus?

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posted February 14, 2025 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 16, 2025 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the the boost Randall.🙌🏿🙌🏿

Neptune and Saturn, get into Aries already!!

Now that Pluto is in Aqua,I am starting to get clarity on what areas of life it is affecting. As predicted, friendships and associations are changing.It is possible that I may lose the current friends I have. Or make new ones.

Uranus 23Tau is inconjunct my natal Jupiter (ruler of my 9th and 12th).It took a while, but my belief system(9th) has changed. And what made it changed? The number of days that I have collectively gathered existing in isolation(12th) the past years.

I need to find new ways of making money. That is the other realization of this transit. And it is echoed by Saturn trine my natal Venus in Sco (2nd house ).

Pluto sextile Natal Plu came with a shift in perspective in 2008. A smooth and relatively comfortable shift

Pluto in Aqua is squaring my Pluto Sco. This one is tricky.Not so smooth nor comfortable. It requires the detachment from accumulated feelings (year's worth) and choosing to let go.

Scorpio does not mind letting go. Scorpio cab burn or simply give away things that no longer interest them.

But this transit also requires a certain level of trust to be nurtured. In that Universal sources are at work and beyond my control. And THAT (for Sco Plu) is a tough sell.

How do I know where I am going if I am not in the driver's seat? Will I like it when I get there? Will I survive? As this happens, one is filled with a lot of anxiety that has no reprieve.Well, atleast not immediately.

In my case? I am moving homes. What's next? I don't know 🤷🏿‍♂️

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I know there are many posts on Neptune in Aries ingress. And this one is not meant to clutter. I just want to tie up something that relates to the sudden explosion of energy after the long waiting game of the last degrees of the preceding sign.

Pluto in Aquarius ingress (2nd time Pluto went into Aqua) on 19Nov , saw the Maori people from NZ protest a bill.

Neptune in Aries ingress (1st time) on the 31st of March, saw the People of SA on a justice campaign for Cwecwe- a 7 year old girl that was raped.

Saturn ingress into Aqua saw the "Black Lives Matter" protest at its peak on June 6 2020 after George Floyd was killed.

There is something about the ingress of the transpersornal planets Jup/Sat/Ura/Nep/Plu having an effect on the collective consciousness. This in particular Ura/Nep and Plu.

I have no doubt that these issues were likely seriously boiling just beneath the surface for a long time before taking full effect once the ingress was made.

With this Neptune in Aries ingress especially , I want to contextualize (not trivialize) the unfortunate fact that sexual crimes against women and minors has been a long standing issue in this country for a long time.

The ingress of Neptune in Aries seems to have culminated to a collective sentiment that "enough is enough" . This after a long boiling point in the preceding latter degrees of Pisces.

There have been other protests prior to the one mentioned in the country.But those pale in magnitude. When I saw the number on social media, I was amazed at the outcome.

SA people are usually passive "die on the inside" types who often lash out in extreme aggression when tipped over. But (oddly) can never make the connection between the former and the latter when confronted about their behaviour.

In this issue, social media is ablaze with people who are absolutely enraged at any person trying to make light or minimize this issue .

This sentiment is so emphatically stated by both genders,that those who talk to minimize the seriousness of this incidents,are chased with a pitchfork and publicly defamed on social media and other related platforms.

And as is often tne case with humans, some (mostly males) have digressed from the collective. They seem to think this issue is "not that deep". As such, they have been "hung out to dry" and faced so much backlash over their comments,that they've backtracked and eaten their words.

So social media is serving as both a platform for public exaltation and execution. A device through which to monitor social morals on a larger scale nationally.

People feel that since the police system is too slow, they are within their right to quench their thirst for immediate action by exacting their "mob justice" via social media.

This platform gives release and opportunity to purge people of angry feelings and emotions related to justice by seeing punishment visibly enacted on "wrongdoers".

Have we evolved much from when public beheadings were a known spectacle at a town's central location ? Perhaps not. It just has taken on a more "sophisticated" disguise via technological mediums.

We still have the same cheers and applause from the collective(myself included 😶 ) when seeing the "wrongdoers" get their comeuppance through pain and suffering. There is nothing new under the Sun.☝🏿

What I find noteworthy here is that Mars is in Cancer when all this is happening in the country. When Maori people protested, the Moon was in Cancer. And during the "Black Lives Matter" protests, Mercury was in Cancer.🤔

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Transit Neptune is officially in Aries.. making an applying quincunx to my Jupiter (8H ruler) EXACT.

Transit Uranus is opposing my Pluto (7H ruler) for the final time on its last pass within the next week or so..

Transit Pluto is currently on my Scorpio stellium by square and just hit my Venus(chart ruler/ASC/6H ruler) EXACT March 31st.

full moon in Libra in a few days.. ON MY LIBRA MOON.
mercury stationing direct..
Venus transitioning to go stationary direct....

energy nonexistent.

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Somebody here also brought up that both Trump and Vance have Asc at 27-29 Leo, meaning they will be going through Uranus square Asc whole next year.

I have to choose to believe in people as a whole otherwise I’ll fall into despair… I live in a big US city and I’m heartbroken, constantly, looking at illness, filth and Teslas all together on the streets. And many people just brush it off, saying oh you should just ignore the homeless. How in the world can you ignore people suffering because of the system that is obviously not working. And what, chase the money, be overworked, isolated in a bubble, behind a gate, like a robot? A lot of people are still cut off from reality. This is not normal how we live. I am afraid it will take something drastic for things to change.

Europe will go through a lot too. They have big problems and in addition whatever happens in the US will affect them as well.


Might have been me as my Leo Ascendant is along those same degrees.

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