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charlie
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posted April 05, 2025 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going all Cardinal angles in about 1/3 degree with Libra on the Asc. Big deal or meh?

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posted April 06, 2025 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 11, 2025 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you mean by progressions?

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posted April 12, 2025 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Do you mean by progressions?

Yes

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posted April 13, 2025 03:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It’s not so much the sign of the progressive angels, but the aspects they make with planets in your birth chart. The switching in signs means they will make different aspects.

Can you see what’s changing in aspects? Is something conjunct or opposite? You have prominent Cancer if I remember correctly?

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posted April 13, 2025 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When my angles changed signs, my progressed sun also changed signs, and was conjunct my progressed descendant, and my moon, Venus, and south node.

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posted April 13, 2025 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
It’s not so much the sign of the progressive angels, but the aspects they make with planets in your birth chart. The switching in signs means they will make different aspects.

Can you see what’s changing in aspects? Is something conjunct or opposite? You have prominent Cancer if I remember correctly?


Yes. Seeing as I have Cancer Sun, Mercury, Venus and a Cap Moon and Libra Pluto, I assume this won't go unnoticed.

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posted April 13, 2025 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
Yes

The trickiest thing about predictive Astrology sometimes for me, is understanding what planet is doing what and when.

The more players that are in the mix, the harder it is to see. This unless the intepretor is already following the pattern from the base aspects and seeing it repeated through other indicators etc.

The other thing is the method you use for progressions. That can influence when the sign change is.

In Astro.com, there are 3 options on how to progress the chart.

1. ARMC 1 Naibod/prog.day

This is the Right Ascension Medium Coeli calculated using 360(rotation throughout the full zodiac circle/ 365.42 (average days per year) = 0.98

The ARMC+ (age*0.98)= ARMC +1 Naibod

So if natal Mc was at Cancer 0Degrees, that's 90 Degrees(Cancer 0)+( age you are now * 0.98)

90 + ( 36*0.98)
= 125.28

So according to this method at the age of 36, the Mc 0 Cancer would have progressed to 5.28 Degrees of Leo(125.28).

2. The other one is ARMC 360°/ prog. day.

This is the one I use often because of its dynamic nature. It is recommended for horary and is (according to research)what Linda Goodman Alumni Kannon McAfee advocated for as the true "progressions".

To quote him; "The first standard of truth we have in astrology is the physical reality of in mundi rotation in nature synchronous with planetary movement. Who are we to decide because another sophisticated mathematical formula can be applied to symbolically rework
a phenomena of physical nature that we should?

Quotidian or true progressions move the Ascendant 361° per year, just as it moves in each day of in mundi rotation: daily=yearly in secondary progressions.

The premise here is that the MC/Ic axis progresses by a minimum of 1 Degree per day because 1day=1year in progressions. So everyday it progresses would be 1year of life.

It is (as he stated) also often called the Quotidian method of progression(Latin meaning " occurring daily")

The math behind it is (I imagine) is a lot more complex, since it involves the days you've been alive(to the month) as years and not the age you are now etc. to calculate the MC.

I don't know much about the Scientific basis(i am no scientist) . But what i measure is practical evidence. And this method of progressions has worked for me.

In my case there are two dates that I recall distinctly and the angles were occupied by planets to not only describe the events of that day. But also which life area that they will affect.

Because this method of progression is extremely time sensitive, it can mark important events right down to the DAY/Days they occur. So reflection on dates right down to the day are important in confirming the events.

When you use this method, your question falls away because the angles are changing everyday. So you could find yourself with fixed angles in the month of April. But then at end June, you are in the middle of mutable angles etc.🤷🏿

3. MC from Solar Arc.

This last method is one where the Mc is progressed one degree per year(as would be the case with the Sun).Hence its close affiliation with Solar arc progressions.

So if Natal Mc is 0 Cancer, then at age 36 would mean that we progress the Mc to 5 Leo.

The difference between the Mc from Solar Arc and ARMC 1 Naibod/prog. year, is a matter of precision.

The two can differ by as much as +/- 2Deg in terms of the MC degree. But not by sign.

Are you still convinced that the sign change of your angles is important in some way? Are there planets touching the angles by natal, progression or transit to suggest such?

To echo PlutoWasHere sentiment,the sign change from mutable to cardinal
in angles matters little. It's the aspects they make to planets by transits, prog or natal that should be used as fodder for analysis.

Use the square, conjunction, opposition for the analysis. I believe Saturn/Neptune
and Jupiter will be in cardinal signs this year. So they should hit the cardinal angles early on.

Pluto should react with the fixed angles when it goes retrograde.

Uranus will react with mutable angles when it ingresses to Gemini this year too.

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posted April 13, 2025 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
Yes. Seeing as I have Cancer Sun, Mercury, Venus and a Cap Moon and Libra Pluto, I assume this won't go unnoticed.

I’m doing a course in predictive astrology right now. The teacher is a psychological astrologer and she combines primary progressions (Van Dam) with secondary progressions and transits.

Saturn and Neptune will transit into Aries, so maybe also a good idea to look at what they’re doing in your chart as well. If a theme that is already in your birth chart is repeated that will be highlighted this period.

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posted April 13, 2025 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
I’m doing a course in predictive astrology right now. The teacher is a psychological astrologer and she combines primary progressions (Van Dam) with secondary progressions and transits.

Saturn and Neptune will transit into Aries, so maybe also a good idea to look at what they’re doing in your chart as well. If a theme that is already in your birth chart is repeated that will be highlighted this period.


I'm looking forward to Neptune in Aries despite it being in my 8H for a few years and square my other Cardinal planets. I'm a "warrior", having my Mars in 1H conj ASC. This whole Pisces in Neptune has been utter BS and look at the state of the world :-/ I hope Neptune wakes up with a vengeance and steps up to the plate; with a sword.

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posted April 13, 2025 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought I was supposed to meet the love of my life, with progressed sun conjunct moon and Venus, south node, but my sister got married.

One thing: I really started to speak up. I stopped being quiet about things, and “taking it all really well”. Because nothing was okay. Both the progressed sun and angles, were also preparing to square my mars in the 4th house.

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posted April 13, 2025 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
I’m doing a course in predictive astrology right now. The teacher is a psychological astrologer and she combines primary progressions (Van Dam) with secondary progressions and transits.

Saturn and Neptune will transit into Aries, so maybe also a good idea to look at what they’re doing in your chart as well. If a theme that is already in your birth chart is repeated that will be highlighted this period.


Is this like solar arcs, where everything progresses at the same time?

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posted April 14, 2025 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Is this like solar arcs, where everything progresses at the same time?

I have Solar Fire software to calculate the progressions. Primary Van Dam is like Solar Arc but with more accurate day arcs.

But it’s not so much the progressions as stand alone events. It’s the combination with your birth chart and transits to find out what theme’s will really stand out. I still only half way the course anyway. Still plenty to learn.

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