posted June 02, 2025 01:56 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I don't know the answer to your question. I don't keep up with astrology on reddit. Do they say upfront that they only allow whole sign houses in charts there?

There are pros who started using whole signs, years ago. If that's the way to go, I've just had Neptune and Saturn move into my 6th, and Pluto moved into my 4th, when it entered Aquarius. But I don't know if there's anything to it.

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I thought they also used placidus but the moderator messaged me saying that they deleted my post because I used placidus
This was the message:
“Hi u/Soulofabird, You don't have a 12th house stellium. Your aquarius planets are all in your 1st house (you will see this once you fix your chart per the Chart Instructions below). Neptune is the only planet in your 12th house. And all your pisces planets are in your 2nd house.
CHART INSTRUCTIONS
You'll need to make your chart in the Whole Sign house system because Placidus doesn't work for your birth location. It causes distortions. Meaning interceptions, which are two opposite signs that have no house cusps in them at all, and then duplications, meaning two opposite signs that each have double house cusps. This will greatly impact accuracy when delineating your houses, their rulers and the planets in them. This is because the very significations and meanings of each house are actually based on how far that sign is from the ascendant sign. For example, with a Capricorn ascendant, then the 3rd sign from the asc sign would be Pisces and that would be the 3rd house. But when placidus doesn't work for a birth location, it can show the 3rd as Aries.”

So I’m not sure if they just don’t allow placidus at all or just for me. Which I don’t get because all these years I’ve only used placidus and other forums never told me to use whole signs.

Whole signs doesn’t make sense to me because that moves my moon from the 12th to the 1st and these two placements are so different. I have never been the type to wear my emotions on my sleeves. Especially when I was younger. I was super super private about my emotions, my desires, likes etc. that’s so different from moon in the 1st house.
I also always been super introverted but sensitive and super shy in my youth. My 12th house placements always resonated with me greatly so now I feel like my whole life has been a lie lol well maybe I’m being dramatic, but still, I was pretty shooketh when they told me my 1st house is in my 2nd and my 12th house in my 1st. I never completely related to my Aquarius stellium and I figured it was because it’s in the 12th house. And Pisces in the 1st that’s why I resonated more with Pisces. 😬

posted June 02, 2025 02:42 AM            

If it’s the same Reddit with a thread for PTSD (which I would be a part of, if I posted there), I thought I saw a thread with a chart that is not using whole signs. The ascendant is 14 degrees, and the 4th house is a later degree. Whole signs would have each house starting at the beginning, wouldn’t they? I don’t know, because I don’t work with it. Is the MC still a different degree, and not the beginning? Hopefully someone will see this, who knows whole signs.

posted June 02, 2025 07:41 AM            

So an Aqua Asc(regardless of degree of the Asc) has whole sign in Aqua. And that means that the planets in Aqua are considered to be influencing the 1st house of self(body).

What has been happening to you in terms of self image/health or perspective shift in the past few years beginning March 2023?

Have there been significant shifts that include(but not limited to) a relocation? A health concern?A revelation that changed you as a person? Perhaps a life changing diagnosis? Weight loss? A start-up or end of a very significant relationship? A career change? A wardrobe/ image shift? A death of someone who had a profound influence over you? A financial loss/gain? A spiritual awakening that changed your whole life? Etc.

Looking back to 2018 when Uranus entered Tau. Any changes or shift that affected the home life? Many relocations to elsewhere ? A status change in family via a birth /death circumstance (typically sudden and unexpected)? Maybe an estrangement from family ties because of living a far distance from them or not getting on? Etc.

A planetary transit(specifically an outer one) is very important in this analysis as it marks a huge shift(this in particular when it goes into the 1st, 4th,7th and 10th house angular houses)

In whole sign , the Mc/Ic are seen as sensitive independent points that are not necessarily always linked to the 10th/4th. They can occur in any house(depending only area).

And what those points do(when triggered) is echo the themes of the larger planetary transit of the outer planet or transpersonal planet in the 4th or 10th house accordingly.

So for Tau Asc with Ic in Vir, the transit of Mars in Vir conj IC/opp Mc may highlight themes that reflect the ingress of Plu in Aqua in house 10.

In the latter case, it could suggest that children(5th house) at home(Ic) are crossing a milestone and going off to varsity.

posted June 02, 2025 01:45 PM            

In the beginning of my astrological journey, using my birth certificate, I thought I was Aquarius rising. Some of it made sense, but a lot of it did not. Then I found a diary my dad had kept, and in it he had noted a different birth time for me, which put me as Pisces rising. When I checked the new chart, it all made sense, everything, and i mean everything fell into place for me.

posted June 02, 2025 10:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Whole sign house system rests on the premise that the energy of each sign is different(as night is from day). And so the influence of that sign starts at 0.00 Degrees and ends at 29.59Degrees.

So an Aqua Asc(regardless of degree of the Asc) has whole sign in Aqua. And that means that the planets in Aqua are considered to be influencing the 1st house of self(body).

What has been happening to you in terms of self image/health or perspective shift in the past few years beginning March 2023?

Have there been significant shifts that include(but not limited to) a relocation? A health concern?A revelation that changed you as a person? Perhaps a life changing diagnosis? Weight loss? A start-up or end of a very significant relationship? A career change? A wardrobe/ image shift? A death of someone who had a profound influence over you? A financial loss/gain? A spiritual awakening that changed your whole life? Etc.

Looking back to 2018 when Uranus entered Tau. Any changes or shift that affected the home life? Many relocations to elsewhere ? A status change in family via a birth /death circumstance (typically sudden and unexpected)? Maybe an estrangement from family ties because of living a far distance from them or not getting on? Etc.

A planetary transit(specifically an outer one) is very important in this analysis as it marks a huge shift(this in particular when it goes into the 1st, 4th,7th and 10th house angular houses)

In whole sign , the Mc/Ic are seen as sensitive independent points that are not necessarily always linked to the 10th/4th. They can occur in any house(depending only area).

And what those points do(when triggered) is echo the themes of the larger planetary transit of the outer planet or transpersonal planet in the 4th or 10th house accordingly.

So for Tau Asc with Ic in Vir, the transit of Mars in Vir conj IC/opp Mc may highlight themes that reflect the ingress of Plu in Aqua in house 10.

In the latter case, it could suggest that children(5th house) at home(Ic) are crossing a milestone and going off to varsity.

So this life perspective shift means that that native will have their purpose in life(Pluto in 10th) redefined by changes in the home i.e. they'll have to find something else to soothe the silence that is now there in the home etc.

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Sorry but I’m a bit confused on what you mean, do you mean that the progressions will determine whether I should use whole signs or not?
Or do you use whole signs? I guess my question is which house system is more accurate to use?
I personally can’t relate to my whole signs chart, but if I don’t have a 12th house stelliun in whole signs does this mean I’m not really a 12th houser? And I actually have 2nd house stelliun instead?
My concern is about interpreting my natal chart. I don’t really follow progressions. But how does this change my chart and how to understand myself?

But interestingly enough almost all the things you have mentioned I have felt happening in the last couple years. A temporary (at the moment) relocation this summer, a revelation that changed my perspective on the world, and wardrobe/image shift! Those all have been happening to me

posted June 02, 2025 11:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage2:
You are the ultimate judge of what your chart is. If you don't resonate with a chart model, that usually mean it is not accurate.

In the beginning of my astrological journey, using my birth certificate, I thought I was Aquarius rising. Some of it made sense, but a lot of it did not. Then I found a diary my dad had kept, and in it he had noted a different birth time for me, which put me as Pisces rising. When I checked the new chart, it all made sense, everything, and i mean everything fell into place for me.

So if you don't feel like the Reddit advise fits you, you don't have to accept it. The right chart will always feel right!

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posted June 03, 2025 09:33 AM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
Sorry but I’m a bit confused on what you mean, do you mean that the progressions will determine whether I should use whole signs or not?
Or do you use whole signs? I guess my question is which house system is more accurate to use?
I personally can’t relate to my whole signs chart, but if I don’t have a 12th house stelliun in whole signs does this mean I’m not really a 12th houser? And I actually have 2nd house stelliun instead?
My concern is about interpreting my natal chart. I don’t really follow progressions. But how does this change my chart and how to understand myself?

But interestingly enough almost all the things you have mentioned I have felt happening in the last couple years. A temporary (at the moment) relocation this summer, a revelation that changed my perspective on the world, and wardrobe/image shift! Those all have been happening to me

What does this mean for my natal chart? That I should be using whole signs?

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What I was trying to dissect there is whether or not the transits from the past few years(in Aqua) had ANY effect on you at the time that they started their ingress into Aqua.

The birth chart shows "the situation at birth" and so when reading the chart, progressions tell "the situation so far"

But the latter is not important for now. My focus is ONLY on transits. This specifically Plu/Ur/Sat transits- as they are the ones that are/have been affecting the fixed sign angular houses (if Aqua is Ascending).

What is this big revelation that changed your world view(if you don't mind sharing)? And when did it happen?

posted June 05, 2025 06:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
What I was trying to dissect there is whether or not the transits from the past few years(in Aqua) had ANY effect on you at the time that they started their ingress into Aqua.

The birth chart shows "the situation at birth" and so when reading the chart, progressions tell "the situation so far"

But the latter is not important for now. My focus is ONLY on transits. This specifically Plu/Ur/Sat transits- as they are the ones that are/have been affecting the fixed sign angular houses (if Aqua is Ascending).

What is this big revelation that changed your world view(if you don't mind sharing)? And when did it happen?

Does any event stand out in memory in 2018? 2020/21?

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Ohh okay I see
As far as 2018 I can’t think of anything significant. In 2020/2021 I returned to college and my great grandparents health declined and had to move in with us. It was a dark time because my grandma struggled a lot with them. Trying to find a senior living for them. They gave her a hard time. And I was trying to help her in the midst of doing schoolwork. I believe that was towards the end of 2021.

posted June 06, 2025 11:54 AM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
Ohh okay I see
As far as 2018 I can’t think of anything significant. In 2020/2021 I returned to college and my great grandparents health declined and had to move in with us. It was a dark time because my grandma struggled a lot with them. Trying to find a senior living for them. They gave her a hard time. And I was trying to help her in the midst of doing schoolwork. I believe that was towards the end of 2021.

I believe around 2020 is when I had the “revelation” that changed my perspective on a lot of things. Even my existence. It made me more confused for sure. I went down too many rabbit holes and it changed my view more on the spiritual realm.
But the most change I have felt is from this years and last year. I have felt it the most now. It seems a lot of things are changing. Even my style! I kind of had a change in aesthetic that feels more expressive of me. I feel like I’m getting closer to something significant but I’m not sure what

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Please check declinations for that pivotal point on 2020/2021. The planetary energy involved should reflect the feelings therein.

posted June 06, 2025 01:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Please check declinations for that pivotal point on 2020/2021. The planetary energy involved should reflect the feelings therein.

I wanted to check them fpr correlation.But no place of birth can be seen from posted chart.

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posted June 06, 2025 03:56 PM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
I’m not sure how to do that. Can you possibly do it for me? My birth details: March 6,1997 Whittier, California, USA at 5:23am
I’d appreciate it thank you 🙏🏼

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Sure.

Asc 25Aqua-12.52S
Mc. 8Sag-21.25S

On your birthday, 6March 2020 transiting Uranus in Tau 3 Deg with declination of 12.22N was contra-parallel(opposite) your Asc 12.52S.

At that time,transiting Jup 20Cap with declination of 21.53S and Plu 24Cap with declination of 21.59S were both parallel your MC.

Saturn also arced to parallel your Mc. But that was mid year and then closer to the ending of that year.

You said you started college in 2020? So that would fit these energies on your Mc(career initiatives). Especially with Saturn involved.

I am not sure when this "life perspective change" took place? Was it before your birthday and earlier in the year or later?

My thinking is that the revelation could be connected to Neptune? Since it resulted in confusion and diving into neverending rabbit holes?

Neptune was parallel your Sun for the greater part of that year. And Neptune can definitely send us into a complete wipeout.

Close to the end of 2021,when your grandma had issues that you were helping to sort out, transiting Saturn was parallel your natal Uranus/Nep(which are parallel in your chart btw).

So that would have been the frustrating period filled with restrictions(Sat) and hardships.

Later that year,trans Sat hit your natal Jupiter(perhaps affecting your studies?) at around Nov/Dec.

#Parallels are like conjunctions whilst contra-parallels are like oppositions.

Declinations can help clarify birth time confusion for they illuminate important aspects to angular points that the longitudinal aspects may not highlight.

Though i do not mention them all the time here (my oversight),they are important. They helped me ascertain my own Asc point and degrees of the Mc/Ic axis.

posted June 06, 2025 05:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Sure.

Asc 25Aqua-12.52S
Mc. 8Sag-21.25S

On your birthday, 6March 2020 transiting Uranus in Tau 3 Deg with declination of 12.22N was contra-parallel(opposite) your Asc 12.52S.

At that time,transiting Jup 20Cap with declination of 21.53S and Plu 24Cap with declination of 21.59S were both parallel your MC.

Saturn also arced to parallel your Mc. But that was mid year and then closer to the ending of that year.

You said you started college in 2020? So that would fit these energies on your Mc(career initiatives). Especially with Saturn involved.

I am not sure when this "life perspective change" took place? Was it before your birthday and earlier in the year or later?

My thinking is that the revelation could be connected to Neptune? Since it resulted in confusion and diving into neverending rabbit holes?

Neptune was parallel your Sun for the greater part of that year. And Neptune can definitely send us into a complete wipeout.

Close to the end of 2021,when your grandma had issues that you were helping to sort out, transiting Saturn was parallel your natal Uranus/Nep(which are parallel in your chart btw).

So that would have been the frustrating period filled with restrictions(Sat) and hardships.

Later that year,trans Sat hit your natal Jupiter(perhaps affecting your studies?) at around Nov/Dec.

#Parallels are like conjunctions whilst contra-parallels are like oppositions.

Declinations can help clarify birth time confusion for they illuminate important aspects to angular points that the longitudinal aspects may not highlight.

Though i do not mention them all the time here (my oversight),they are important. They helped me ascertain my own Asc point and degrees of the Mc/Ic axis.

If I have learned anything from Kannon McAfee's teachings on here it would be that without them,chart interpretations is limited and skewed.🙏🏿

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The revelation I would say happened beginning of 2020 I want to say March or April. But it only started at that time but slow unraveled over the years. It was also when I started seeing the number 11:11 and 1:11 often and I have been seeing it at least once a week ever since. It’s kind of weird and I feel like there’s a message in there but I still don’t understand what. But since I’ve been seeing that number since I had the revelation I have wondered if it was connected to that.

November/December of that year is actually when my great grandparents moved in with us! That was when my grandma was dealing with a lot of stress.
I didn’t stop my studies, but it did add more stress and made it difficult to get through that semester. But ironically I got through it and even made Deans honor list that semester.

posted June 06, 2025 05:21 PM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
The revelation I would say happened beginning of 2020 I want to say March or April. But it only started at that time but slow unraveled over the years. It was also when I started seeing the number 11:11 and 1:11 often and I have been seeing it at least once a week ever since. It’s kind of weird and I feel like there’s a message in there but I still don’t understand what. But since I’ve been seeing that number since I had the revelation I have wondered if it was connected to that.

November/December of that year is actually when my great grandparents moved in with us! That was when my grandma was dealing with a lot of stress.
I didn’t stop my studies, but it did add more stress and made it difficult to get through that semester. But ironically I got through it and even made Deans honor list that semester.

So far are you seeing that my chart should use whole signs or placidus? I’m not sure if which is more accurate, my Aqua placements in the 1st or 12th house , Pisces placements in the 1st or 2nd house

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It matters not which you use. The Asc/Mc are fine. So declination aspects may have you experience the energy more on the angular and planets.

Focus MORE on that than debating on house position because she Neptune is parellel your Ic (for isntance) , you may experience situations as if Neptune is transiting your 4th when. When according to longitudinal aspects, its in the 2and house etc.

In my case, 2016 was significant. Neptune/Uranus were contra-parallel/ parallel my Asc that year. Transiting Saturn was also parallel Mc.

All the above energies affected the home and lineage(Ic Cancer). But NO longitudinal placements in my 4th at the time to reflect the above.

posted June 06, 2025 06:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
It matters not which you use. The Asc/Mc are fine. So declination aspects may have you experience the energy more on the angular and planets.

Focus MORE on that than debating on house position because she Neptune is parellel your Ic (for isntance) , you may experience situations as if Neptune is transiting your 4th when. When according to longitudinal aspects, its in the 2and house etc.

In my case, 2016 was significant. Neptune/Uranus were contra-parallel/ parallel my Asc that year. Transiting Saturn was also parallel Mc.

All the above energies affected the home and lineage(Ic Cancer). But NO longitudinal placements in my 4th at the time to reflect the above.

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posted June 07, 2025 06:53 PM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
[b] I’m still confused with what that had to do with interpreting my chart to find out who I am? So you don’t usually use the natal chart alone? Only with transits?

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Oh ok. I see. I realize i may have confused you and gone completely off track.

The fundamental flaw in all this is that the intepretaion is not always clear cut or fixed.

I know that with Moon in 12th, it could suggest someone who is very secretive about their inner feelings.

But in your case, that could also be explained by that Neptune conjunction to your Aqua planet stellium( which includes the Moon).

Even ruler of the Ic(Mercury) in house 1 (Placidus) squaring Plu, could make you someone who tends to keep to your own counsel and not share much (specifically inner thoughts and feelings) with others etc.

So the best thing would be to track transits and notice patterns in that way. But you must be vigilant and note things that stand out or feel different on an emotional level.

Mars in Leo was opposing your Ura,Jup,Moon in Aqua in the month of May. And transit Mars will oppose your Asc degree this coming week too.

By placidus,Moon rules your 6th house and Jupiter rules Mc and intercepted Pisces in 1st house. Whilst Ura rules your house 1.

posted June 08, 2025 08:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Oh ok. I see. I realize i may have confused you and gone completely off track.

The fundamental flaw in all this is that the intepretaion is not always clear cut or fixed.

I know that with Moon in 12th, it could suggest someone who is very secretive about their inner feelings.

But in your case, that could also be explained by that Neptune conjunction to your Aqua planet stellium( which includes the Moon).

Even ruler of the Ic(Mercury) in house 1 (Placidus) squaring Plu, could make you someone who tends to keep to your own counsel and not share much (specifically inner thoughts and feelings) with others etc.

So the best thing would be to track transits and notice patterns in that way. But you must be vigilant and note things that stand out or feel different on an emotional level.

Mars in Leo was opposing your Ura,Jup,Moon in Aqua in the month of May. And transit Mars will oppose your Asc degree this coming week too.

By placidus,Moon rules your 6th house and Jupiter rules Mc and intercepted Pisces in 1st house. Whilst Ura rules your house 1.

Anything happen in May this year? This particularly the 1st to 20th?

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Yeah I’ve always been quite introverted and private with my feelings. I didn’t realize Neptune can have an affect on my moon despite not being conjunct it, I knew it was conjunct my Uranus but I thought it was too far from my moon to have affect. But that would make sense that I tend to daydream a lot and more emotional less logical than Aqua moon descriptions. But I also chalked that up to it being in the 12th house, so hearing that I might not have it in the 12th added the confusion

posted June 09, 2025 04:46 PM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
Yeah I’ve always been quite introverted and private with my feelings. I didn’t realize Neptune can have an affect on my moon despite not being conjunct it, I knew it was conjunct my Uranus but I thought it was too far from my moon to have affect. But that would make sense that I tend to daydream a lot and more emotional less logical than Aqua moon descriptions. But I also chalked that up to it being in the 12th house, so hearing that I might not have it in the 12th added the confusion

I’ve tried keeping track of progressions but it confuses me lol
As far as anything happening in May, I can’t seem to remember anything apart from getting ready for my trip abroad. I go to South Korea at the end of June and this is a big milestone for me because it’s my first time ever out of my country, the first time I’ll ever be away from my family, and it’s been my long time dream to go to Korea for quite some time now. So now that it’s happening it’s pretty significant for me

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That sounds like Plu retrograde arcing to conj Nep(out of sign).

At the end of this month(June),trans Merc is going to opp your natal Ura,Jup, Moon.

posted June 11, 2025 01:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
That sounds like Plu retrograde arcing to conj Nep(out of sign).

At the end of this month(June),trans Merc is going to opp your natal Ura,Jup, Moon.

Are you going with friends on this trip or flying solo?

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posted June 11, 2025 06:43 AM            

In Placidus, Mars rules the 9th house Sco and 2nd house Aries. You have Saturn opp Mars in the chart. So the two impact each other.

Sat rules the 12th and 11th house Cap of isolation and foreign lands as well as networks and friends(respectively).Saturn also rules the 1st house of self(Aqua Asc).

So the hit of Sat/Mars opp in the natal should impact /raise themes in terms of the areas of life highlighted. And that's a lot of houses. Let's count them.

Mars affects 9th & 2nd house and located in 7th. Saturn affects 11, 12th, 1st and located in 1st.

Transit Sat/Nep is opp Mars 0Lib and the above two planets will go retrograde this year. So pay attention to what impact they have.

My thinking is that there should be restrictions around spending (2nd) , some significant relationship fallout(7th) and belief system shift(9th). All at once.

If we are to look at Sat, this would suggest a period of feeling isolated(12th) and not being able to socialize(11th) and even image changes towards a conservative dress code(1st)? This especially since Saturn will be in your 1st by transit.

Transit Jupiter Cancer 0 should be having some effect on Mars/Sat opp natal. Maybe this month or the next(July)?

Around the next month (July 13/14th) when Jup 7 Deg is square natal Saturn Ari 7 exact, Saturn will go retrograde at 1 Aries.

Jupiter will be in the 5th house of fun. But i doubt there will be fun (since Saturn is involved).

So it could involve turning an interest/hobby into something lucrative? Or studying something that is of interest to you and applying yourself practically to it?

To figure out which system works best for you. You have to pay attention an d note events relative to your own life.

It's not something that anyone external to you can advise you on. Transits are personal in nature and subjective to the person concerned.

I would expect something to occur around the date listed.But if nothing happens, then it stands to reason that there are other trigger points that trump my assertion(by timing).

You can use Placidus ( since that is the one that you are accustomed with). But always test it's validity against transits.

It could be that Campanus/Koch or even equal house work best for you. But it's a matter of trial and error to see what fits.

posted June 11, 2025 02:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I see. We should see the themes of the areas being highlighted when a transit hits.

In Placidus, Mars rules the 9th house Sco and 2nd house Aries. You have Saturn opp Mars in the chart. So the two impact each other.

Sat rules the 12th and 11th house Cap of isolation and foreign lands as well as networks and friends(respectively).Saturn also rules the 1st house of self(Aqua Asc).

So the hit of Sat/Mars opp in the natal should impact /raise themes in terms of the areas of life highlighted. And that's a lot of houses. Let's count them.

Mars affects 9th & 2nd house and located in 7th. Saturn affects 11, 12th, 1st and located in 1st.

Transit Sat/Nep is opp Mars 0Lib and the above two planets will go retrograde this year. So pay attention to what impact they have.

My thinking is that there should be restrictions around spending (2nd) , some significant relationship fallout(7th) and belief system shift(9th). All at once.

If we are to look at Sat, this would suggest a period of feeling isolated(12th) and not being able to socialize(11th) and even image changes towards a conservative dress code(1st)? This especially since Saturn will be in your 1st by transit.

Transit Jupiter Cancer 0 should be having some effect on Mars/Sat opp natal. Maybe this month or the next(July)?

Around the next month (July 13/14th) when Jup 7 Deg is square natal Saturn Ari 7 exact, Saturn will go retrograde at 1 Aries.

Jupiter will be in the 5th house of fun. But i doubt there will be fun (since Saturn is involved).

So it could involve turning an interest/hobby into something lucrative? Or studying something that is of interest to you and applying yourself practically to it?

To figure out which system works best for you. You have to pay attention an d note events relative to your own life.

It's not something that anyone external to you can advise you on. Transits are personal in nature and subjective to the person concerned.

I would expect something to occur around the date listed.But if nothing happens, then it stands to reason that there are other trigger points that trump my assertion(by timing).

You can use Placidus ( since that is the one that you are accustomed with). But always test it's validity against transits.

It could be that Campanus/Koch or even equal house work best for you. But it's a matter of trial and error to see what fits.

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Oh gosh that worries me a bit about my trip lol I’m actually afraid that I will have a hard time making friends when I’m there. I also maybe can see the conservative dress code thing happening because South Korea is very homogenous when it comes to dressing, ppl usually dress in similar styles and lately my style has become not so minimalist like they usually like to dress. So I’m not sure how I’d feel dressing the way I normally do there
And since I’m going to study abroad it’s possible that lack of fun is due to having to study as well?
Idk with all those transit I’m feeling like I won’t be having a good time there but we shall see 😣 this trip is definitely already financially breaking me. I’m going to have lots of depth to pay after this
I can definitely see where a lot of different areas of life can be touched because there’s a lot going on internally for me right now

posted June 11, 2025 04:56 PM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
Oh gosh that worries me a bit about my trip lol I’m actually afraid that I will have a hard time making friends when I’m there.

I also maybe can see the conservative dress code thing happening because South Korea is very homogenous when it comes to dressing, ppl usually dress in similar styles and lately my style has become not so minimalist like they usually like to dress. So I’m not sure how I’d feel dressing the way I normally do there.

And since I’m going to study abroad, it’s possible that lack of fun is due to having to study as well? Idk with all those transit I’m feeling like I won’t be having a good time there but we shall see 😣.

This trip is definitely already financially breaking me. I’m going to have lots of depth to pay after this
I can definitely see where a lot of different areas of life can be touched because there’s a lot going on internally for me right now

I don’t really like to follow transits, in fact I usually avoid them. It would bring me too much anxiety kind of like now lol so I don’t think I will actually be able to figure out what house system works for me, but I appreciate your thoughtful input.

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I understand. It sounds like there are changes afoot in your life and that can be overwhelming. This especially on such a large scale as a geographic relocation.

What you must remember about whole sign is that the IC degree can be in 4th/5th and sometimes even 6th.

But wherever it is, it tends to overlap with the issues of home /living situations and surroundings that the 4th house is about.

From whole sign, this move plays out in a clearer way imo i.e. Uranus is straddling between your 4th house of home Tau and Ic Gem in 5th( study).

By the end of this month, Uranus would have entered Gemini and widely conjunct your Ic degree (signifying domestic/living situation changes).

As I said, the Ic degree (in whatever house) will reiterate issues around home and family(something that the 4th house touched on).

By end of year(6months later) transiting Uranus Tau will be retrograde in your 4th again. This i take will be the end of your studies and move back?

I don't know what you have planned for 2027, as Nov of that year sees transiting Uranus Gem in EXACT retrograde conjunction to your natal IC Gem 8.