posted July 23, 2025 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by pickle4997:
Since Saturn is the trad. ruler of Aquarius, would Sun conjunct Saturn also give Aquarius influence to the Sun?
Ime with interpretations, Saturn conj any planet tends to give that planet Saturnine qualities or the nature of that kind of expression. An essence that is more aligned with typical ♑ energy descriptions
Saturn on Sun- pragmatic and practical nature. Father was likely strict or instilled boundaries. And if no such father was present, you (having the internal Saturn as part of your nature) may have been the instiller of boundaries and rules in your home. Maybe even the 1st born.
With the above, sometimes the family(incl Dad) is too unstructured/ permissive and lacking routine. Especially if Dad has lots of Jupiter aspects.
So the native yearns for that sense of order and can( through that yearning) be the type to overachieve at school by being the dominant force( either in academics, cultural activities or sports).
They want to have control and order in an area of life that is exclusively under their thumb. And they are usually acutely aware of what they need to do( in terms of hard work) to get there.
There could be a self esteem issue when young. But the confidence in one's abilities tends to increase with age and experience. They can be just as competitive as Sun-Mars natives.
Although the latter tends to want to be "best", the former wants to be the expert or taken seriously(status). And this is not necessarily always the same thing.
These are not the type to brag. And if they do, they can usually back it up. Their outlook in life is often to anticipate/expect the negative(so they can be pessimistic - unlike Sun/Jup types).
Because their plans err towards realism than grandiose visions of unprecedented worldly success (different from Sun-Plu natives), they tend to achieve their personal goals more often than most. And even surpass those goals (because of aiming high and shooting low).
The tendency to look at life "in the face.Always looking life in the face" , does make them prone to depressive spells, bouts of self doubt(even when they have achieved a lot) this in particular if Sun-Sat are opposite by aspect .
So this love of "down to earth" reasoning and aversion to abstract thinking that has no tangible basis, tends to also make them susceptible to illnesses that are related to bones and skin ( things that give the body tangible form).
Sun-Uranus are the ones who are more "Aqua" in their expression.Although Aqua does not equate to Uranus as poignantly as Saturn does to Cap.
What happens here is that the native is either the type to (by default and never purposely) break boundaries, ignore rules or even see flaws in them that have them question why they should be there in the first place.
Sometimes they can be the conservative type. But be absolutely against people they deem "progressive" or things that will counter their conservative outlook.
These types often have life/ people outside their control, disrupt their lives and have them feeling momentarily lost.
The Father could have been the type who went against social norms OR was eccentric and unstable.
Maybe he was revolutionist with their own beliefs and ideology differing from the secular environment the native grew up in?
So these natives are often the types that learn to adjust to chaos/ instability on one hand. Or crave it (on the other) when things are too stable- leading them to bring it about by being avant garde or rebellious themselves etc.
I have noticed that the relationship with Dad is not great with Sun in Sag/Aries and Leo. The latter fathers tend to be selfconcerned and don't provide much guidance for the native. They (native) must find their own way.
With Lib/Aqu/Gem, Dad is more a partner than an authority figure(Phil Dunphy and Luke on "Modern Family"). They are "facilitators" in parenting. They are not necessarily authoritarian about it.
When Uranus aspects the Sun, the Father cannot be relied on to be a pillar of strength. He may disappear from the native's life, be in and out of it or be pulled away by external things at unpredictable times (preventing consistent uninterrupted bonding with the native).
Life for the chart owner tends to follow this erratic trail too when Uranus aspects Sun. Either they change their course /direction in life often voluntarily(from Doctor to DJ).
Or they are forced to by circumstances outside their control to do so i.e. from studying to be a lawyer but then responbilities at home have them discontinue their studies. And they end up earning their money via being a Chef.🤷🏿
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