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pickle4997
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posted July 22, 2025 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pickle4997     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since Saturn is the trad. ruler of Aquarius, would Sun conjunct Saturn also give Aquarius influence to the Sun?

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posted July 23, 2025 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 23, 2025 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 23, 2025 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You ask interesting questions, OP. Things I have never thought about in all my years of astrology.

To answer your question, my first thought is no. Because I asked myself, would Sun conjunct Saturn IN CANCER have Aquarius influence? Would Sun conjunct Saturn in Pisces have Aquarius influence? Would Sun conjunct Saturn in Capricorn have Aquarius influence?

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It could!

In old astrology for sure, in new astrology, not as much.

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posted July 24, 2025 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThunderSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus is more Aquarius than Saturn in modern astro.

Sun conj Saturn could apply restriction to the Sun ... IIRC

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posted July 24, 2025 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ThunderSword:
Uranus is more Aquarius than Saturn in modern astro.

Sun conj Saturn could apply restriction to the Sun ... IIRC


Good point. A restricted sun does not look/sound/act very Aquarian...

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posted July 24, 2025 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^
But the Sun is said to be in its fall in Aquarius…ummm… that could actually bolster the idea of an Aquarian influence when Sun conjuncts Saturn…

This is taking my thought process on a roller coaster…

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posted July 24, 2025 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frida     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pickle4997 put you in a pickle

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posted July 25, 2025 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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pickle4997 put you in a pickle

Haha 😂🤣

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posted July 26, 2025 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThunderSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But the Sun is said to be in its fall in Aquarius…ummm… that could actually bolster the idea of an Aquarian influence when Sun conjuncts Saturn…

This is taking my thought process on a roller coaster…


The fall sign of the sun is Libra.

Aqua are eccentric because of that Saturn strict constrainian old-fashioned qualities combined with the innovative forward-thinking visionary of Uranus. kind of paradoxical energies that why some people might think they are weird.

Uranus energy is needed not just Saturn to have the Aqua qualities.

In ancient astrology and that just a guess from me they may intrept Sun conj Saturn to have Aqua qualities if they are in a masculine signs.

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posted July 26, 2025 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThunderSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was a bit harsh on planet Saturn .. it definitely has good essential qualities like duty, discipline, order, structure etc..

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posted July 26, 2025 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ThunderSword:

You are correct, I mislabeled the dignity/debility of Sun in Aquarius, it is not in its fall. It is in its detriment, which means it is in a weaker or less favorable position, it is a difficult position for the Sun to be.

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posted July 26, 2025 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The fall sign of the sun is Libra.

Aqua are eccentric because of that Saturn strict constrainian old-fashioned qualities combined with the innovative forward-thinking visionary of Uranus. kind of paradoxical energies that why some people might think they are weird.

Uranus energy is needed not just Saturn to have the Aqua qualities.

In ancient astrology and that just a guess from me they may intrept Sun conj Saturn to have Aqua qualities if they are in a masculine signs.


The bolded is an excellent interpretation of the eccentricity of Aqua. Uranus's path is already erratic, since its tilt, rotation and retrogradation are different from other planets, but the addition of Saturn seems to create an additional element that makes Aquarius what it is.

You are probably right that both Saturn and Uranus energies are needed to have Aquarian influence...

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posted July 26, 2025 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I was a bit harsh on planet Saturn .. it definitely has good essential qualities like duty, discipline, order, structure etc..

Saturn rocks!

I am not Saturnian but I have come to appreciate Saturn transits. Some Saturn transits have denied me things that I was convinced at the time I needed, but it turned out these things would have ultimately destroyed me, and Saturn has also rewarded me with wonderful things that have endured the test of time. Saturn has become that friend that I originally thought was my enemy.

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posted July 27, 2025 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThunderSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Saturn rocks!

I am not Saturnian but I have come to appreciate Saturn transits. Some Saturn transits have denied me things that I was convinced at the time I needed, but it turned out these things would have ultimately destroyed me, and Saturn has also rewarded me with wonderful things that have endured the test of time. Saturn has become that friend that I originally thought was my enemy.


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posted July 27, 2025 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pickle4997     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ThunderSword:
The fall sign of the sun is Libra.

Aqua are eccentric because of that Saturn strict constrainian old-fashioned qualities combined with the innovative forward-thinking visionary of Uranus. kind of paradoxical energies that why some people might think they are weird.

Uranus energy is needed not just Saturn to have the Aqua qualities.

In ancient astrology and that just a guess from me they may intrept Sun conj Saturn to have Aqua qualities if they are in a masculine signs.


So with this being said, would you count a planet in Aquarius as reflecting that Uranian contact as well?? For example, I have a late degree Aries Sun that is conjunct an Aries Saturn and also squares an Aquarius Neptune. Would that add an Aquarian quality to the Sun or it would definitely have to be Uranus?

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posted August 12, 2025 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThunderSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage2:
Uranus's path is already erratic, since its tilt, rotation and retrogradation are different from other planets, but the addition of Saturn seems to create an additional element that makes Aquarius what it is.

No doubt about that.

I always liked reading your posts Belage.

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posted August 12, 2025 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ThunderSword:
No doubt about that.

I always liked reading your posts Belage.


Ditto!

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posted August 13, 2025 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cap moon 5H op Leo Saturn 11H. Also have Cancer Sun trine Scorpio Uranus 3H. I have been proved to be more “Aquarius” than Aquarius’, but more Uranus ie eccentric, slightly wild and out there and without my Saturn influences I’m not entirely sure I’d be on Earth still. But then again, I also have Mars/Uranus, Mercury/Uranus, Asc/Uranus, NN/Uranus. So yeah, Uranus..

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posted August 25, 2025 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThunderSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ditto!

I enjoy chating with you

I need to add about why so insistent to include Saturn with Uranus, because that's the geometry of the zodiac.. the 4th&5th signs are the Luminary signs[moon, sun] opposite of them must be slow and distant dark [moon is the fastest planet transiting the zodiac and saturn is the slowest one that can be seen with naked eye] same reason(geometry) why 3rd&6th signs the Mercurials their opposites are the Jupiters or the Jovials.

Libra is exalted in Saturn opposite of that? Aries is exalted on Sun. Libra when darkness increase on Earth and Aries when light[sun] increase on Earth, so they are primordial enemies or opposites the Sun & Saturn.

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