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PlutoIsMyTeacher13
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posted August 20, 2025 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoIsMyTeacher13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’ve recently been told I need urgent open heart surgery. I’m feeling quite positive and practical about it on the whole but I wasn’t expecting to need it for another 5-10 years max so it’s come as a shock. It’s happened more quickly than I anticipated and I’m curious about my current transits.

Just to be clear I’m not into predictive astrology so please refrain from making any negative predictions about my surgery. I’m very focused on the present, and positive outcomes. I know recovery will be tough but I also am very grateful for free surgery and the wonderful support I have from my friends and family.

The transits are:

Saturn opp natal Saturn in Virgo
Pluto square Moon in Scorpio
Pluto passed over my Aqua descendent last year and is now making its way through my 7th house (my partner is also having the same transit a degree later so Pluto is still crossing his DC)
Uranus sextile Leo ASC
Neptune trine Leo ASC

What I’m most interested in is:
1. What am I meant to learn from what is happening?
2. I’m curious about how differently I’m handling this surgery. When Pluto transited my 6th house, I was diagnosed with a chronic health condition and I isolated and restricted myself. This time I’m reaching out to everyone and actively asking for support
3. I feel very strong in myself and friends and family are shocked that I’m handling it so well. Of course I’m fearful and worried but I’m not letting it take control.

Any thoughts would be helpful. Thank you

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posted August 21, 2025 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It looks like Saturn in Virgo is needed to look deeper into for lessons. Did you take proper care of your health, follow appropriate routine, established good habits for your health issues? Maybe, it is the opposite you over-execute your Saturn in Virgo. Were you too rigit and critical?
Moon is Yin energy. Pluto transits to it emphasizing issues with control. Especially, with Scorpio moon and Saturn in Virgo it could be about releasing it or empowering yourself.

With heart condition, it’s worth to look into heart chakra issues and Yin energy ( also moon), relations with women or softer energy people.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted August 21, 2025 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wanted to see your chart. You have Leo Asc (as read from your entry) and Sun ( Asc ruler) is also the ruler of the heart in Astrology.

It made me wonder what condition the Sun is in? What aspects are being made to it? Or the progressed Sun etc.

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posted August 21, 2025 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoIsMyTeacher13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
It looks like Saturn in Virgo is needed to look deeper into for lessons. Did you take proper care of your health, follow appropriate routine, established good habits for your health issues? Maybe, it is the opposite you over-execute your Saturn in Virgo. Were you too rigit and critical?
Moon is Yin energy. Pluto transits to it emphasizing issues with control. Especially, with Scorpio moon and Saturn in Virgo it could be about releasing it or empowering yourself.

With heart condition, it’s worth to look into heart chakra issues and Yin energy ( also moon), relations with women or softer energy people.


Thank you. Yes, I was rigid for a long period of time. About 1-2 years ago when I met my partner I started letting go. His moon conjuncts my NN in Leo in the 2nd house (or 1st depending on the house system - I use placidus). He been teaching me to enjoy life and embrace my power and creativity and to allow myself to shine. My heart condition was already diagnosed before I met him, just after I split with a man who was emotionally abusive (Saturn square Pluto in the composite)

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posted August 21, 2025 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoIsMyTeacher13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I wanted to see your chart. You have Leo Asc (as read from your entry) and Sun ( Asc ruler) is also the ruler of the heart in Astrology.

It made me wonder what condition the Sun is in? What aspects are being made to it? Or the progressed Sun etc.


Thank you, for your input and interest. My Sun is conjunct Jupiter and Saturn in Virgo, also square Neptune and sextile Uranus and trine Chiron.
http://imgur.com/a/CbwA7Xo (I struggle remembering how to do links here, so hopefully that works - I’ve just removed the s after http!) but if not hopefully you can paste in the address bar.

Progressed chart : http://imgur.com/a/U3WVpcE


I’ve got a big ol’ yod to Chiron (yep!) in Taurus, in the 10th - definitely not to be missed as it’s also a big pain in the ass.

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posted August 22, 2025 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh ok,i see. You were born in 1980.

When you talked of how it was a "shock", i wondered if your chart had Uranus in aspect to angles? Maybe placed in house 6 or 1st or in aspect to Sun?🤔

And i found that Solar Arc progressed Ic 8.24 Lib arced to 24 Sco to conjunct your natal Uranus 24Sco. Bingo!When in natal 4th house(whole house system), the shock is to the system . An extremely internal situation

Notice also how Jupiter and Neptune both rule the 8th house ♓ cusp of sudden ups and downs? And i found that Jupiter(ruler of 8th) and Neptune(co-ruler of 8th)are conjunct/ square Sun respectively in your chart.

This is another explanation of your situation i.e. Your chart suggests someone who is predisposed to sudden upheavals(8th house rulers) when it comes to health (aspecting 1st house ruler of health).

What's also telling is that Saturn(ruling house 6 of health) is conj your Sun(1st house ruler) and Jup/ Nep (8th house rulers) albeit the latter being a wide aspect.

So whenever i see 1st and 6th house mix, i think that health issues(6th) are a prominent feature in the natal chart holders life(1st).

And when 6th and 8th house are mixed, the upheavals(8th)may center around health issues(6th)-as is the case here.

The trigger in terms of transits for me was that Mars Libra that just formed a conjunction aspect to your natal Ic 8♎(reiterating that natal solar Arc progression of Ic to shocking Natal Uranus underlined initially).

These two together can be the actual visceral shock and discomfort (Mars transit/Uranus natal) within you(Ic/4th house).

We can also see this discomfort suggested by that progressed Sun 5 Scorpio in square aspect to Natal Venus in house 1 of self and in the natal 4th house(whole house system).

The outer planetary playout is transiting retro Plu in ♒ arcing to oppose your Asc (health center) in ♌.

Transiting Neptune/Saturn Aries in retrograde motion into Pisces to oppose your natal Saturn(6th house ruler of health) whilst they re-enter your natal 8th house cusp ♓ of sudden upheavals for the remainder of the year 2025 and beginning 2026.

As trans Pluto moves to square your prog Sun in the coming years, this will suggest fundamental changes in terms of your outlook /perspective on life.

I won't make any predictions(as you've requested). But i will answer the questions posed from my perspective.

1. What am I meant to learn from what is happening?

My thinking is that it is related to love, relationships /collaboration and creativity.

That Venus in 1st house highlights these themes. And Venus 5Leo is not only in aspect with progressed Sun(Asc ruler) as stated earlier, but it highlights the square aspect with 🌙 3Sco and Mars 10Sco too.


2. I’m curious about how differently I’m handling this surgery. When Pluto transited my 6th house, I was diagnosed with a chronic health condition and I isolated and restricted myself. This time I’m reaching out to everyone and actively asking for support.

The Aqua Dsc is about "community". And Pluto transit to Aqua would be awakening that.

Fire sign Asc like to be independent of others. But with Plu now in Aqua, the outcome will be that people are not as easily dispensable as they once were.

For your Leo Asc, the Plu aspect to Asc and later to Venus will highlight the importance of collaboration and including others in your plans.

As Plu gets closer to your Venus in opposition, I suspect that an important partnership/s will show itself up to you.

They may influence your inner strength and will to fight for you life (3rd house) as well as impact the changes you make in terms of what you prioritize in your life direction (10th Tau) in some way.

3. I feel very strong in myself and friends and family are shocked that I’m handling it so well. Of course I’m fearful and worried but I’m not letting it take control.

I think that this could be the natal Saturn conjunction to Mercury/Sun and Jupiter.

There could even be some spiritual awareness(Neptune widely square Saturn/Jup) that something else it at play here .Not just the physical manifestations of the illness( and this is based off of the 1st question you pose).

There is no blame , no " woe is me", no " I hate God" etc. Just acceptance. And that takes a certain level of inner faith and faith.

That Jupiter transit of Cancer in your 12th would heighten your awareness with all things spiritual during this time of isolation( post surgery).

As Saturn/Neptune get permanently stationed in house 9 ♈, issues of Faith, belief, Higher power etc. Will become more pertinent.

Jupiter moves to ♌ next year 2026 too. And with it, will be a new outlook that may include increased optimism and faith in the future.

I wish you you all the good fortune that the Universe can grant you right now. 🙏🏿❤❤❤

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PlutoIsMyTeacher13
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posted August 27, 2025 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoIsMyTeacher13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
oh ok,i see. You were born in 1980.

When you talked of how it was a "shock", i wondered if your chart had Uranus in aspect to angles? Maybe placed in house 6 or 1st or in aspect to Sun?🤔

And i found that Solar Arc progressed Ic 8.24 Lib arced to 24 Sco to conjunct your natal Uranus 24Sco. Bingo!When in natal 4th house(whole house system), the shock is to the system . An extremely internal situation

Notice also how Jupiter and Neptune both rule the 8th house ♓ cusp of sudden ups and downs? And i found that Jupiter(ruler of 8th) and Neptune(co-ruler of 8th)are conjunct/ square Sun respectively in your chart.

This is another explanation of your situation i.e. Your chart suggests someone who is predisposed to sudden upheavals(8th house rulers) when it comes to health (aspecting 1st house ruler of health).

What's also telling is that Saturn(ruling house 6 of health) is conj your Sun(1st house ruler) and Jup/ Nep (8th house rulers) albeit the latter being a wide aspect.

So whenever i see 1st and 6th house mix, i think that health issues(6th) are a prominent feature in the natal chart holders life(1st).

And when 6th and 8th house are mixed, the upheavals(8th)may center around health issues(6th)-as is the case here.

The trigger in terms of transits for me was that Mars Libra that just formed a conjunction aspect to your natal Ic 8♎(reiterating that natal solar Arc progression of Ic to shocking Natal Uranus underlined initially).

These two together can be the actual visceral shock and discomfort (Mars transit/Uranus natal) within you(Ic/4th house).

We can also see this discomfort suggested by that progressed Sun 5 Scorpio in square aspect to Natal Venus in house 1 of self and in the natal 4th house(whole house system).

The outer planetary playout is transiting retro Plu in ♒ arcing to oppose your Asc (health center) in ♌.

Transiting Neptune/Saturn Aries in retrograde motion into Pisces to oppose your natal Saturn(6th house ruler of health) whilst they re-enter your natal 8th house cusp ♓ of sudden upheavals for the remainder of the year 2025 and beginning 2026.

As trans Pluto moves to square your prog Sun in the coming years, this will suggest fundamental changes in terms of your outlook /perspective on life.

I won't make any predictions(as you've requested). But i will answer the questions posed from my perspective.

[b]1. What am I meant to learn from what is happening?

My thinking is that it is related to love, relationships /collaboration and creativity.

That Venus in 1st house highlights these themes. And Venus 5Leo is not only in aspect with progressed Sun(Asc ruler) as stated earlier, but it highlights the square aspect with 🌙 3Sco and Mars 10Sco too.


2. I’m curious about how differently I’m handling this surgery. When Pluto transited my 6th house, I was diagnosed with a chronic health condition and I isolated and restricted myself. This time I’m reaching out to everyone and actively asking for support.

The Aqua Dsc is about "community". And Pluto transit to Aqua would be awakening that.

Fire sign Asc like to be independent of others. But with Plu now in Aqua, the outcome will be that people are not as easily dispensable as they once were.

For your Leo Asc, the Plu aspect to Asc and later to Venus will highlight the importance of collaboration and including others in your plans.

As Plu gets closer to your Venus in opposition, I suspect that an important partnership/s will show itself up to you.

They may influence your inner strength and will to fight for you life (3rd house) as well as impact the changes you make in terms of what you prioritize in your life direction (10th Tau) in some way.

3. I feel very strong in myself and friends and family are shocked that I’m handling it so well. Of course I’m fearful and worried but I’m not letting it take control.

I think that this could be the natal Saturn conjunction to Mercury/Sun and Jupiter.

There could even be some spiritual awareness(Neptune widely square Saturn/Jup) that something else it at play here .Not just the physical manifestations of the illness( and this is based off of the 1st question you pose).

There is no blame , no " woe is me", no " I hate God" etc. Just acceptance. And that takes a certain level of inner faith and faith.

That Jupiter transit of Cancer in your 12th would heighten your awareness with all things spiritual during this time of isolation( post surgery).

As Saturn/Neptune get permanently stationed in house 9 ♈, issues of Faith, belief, Higher power etc. Will become more pertinent.

Jupiter moves to ♌ next year 2026 too. And with it, will be a new outlook that may include increased optimism and faith in the future.

I wish you you all the good fortune that the Universe can grant you right now. 🙏🏿❤❤❤[/B]


Wow, Aries23 that is quite the interpretation! I thank you from the bottom of my heart (no pun intended - sorry couldn’t help myself!) for the amount of work you’ve put into this.

I’ve had to read this a few times to understand as you are much more advanced in your understanding of astrology than I am and the bits around arcs had me confused.

However, It’s quite amazing actually, in answering my questions, you’ve picked up on quite a few of the lessons and experiences that have already happened in the past two years. I didn’t include the information in my original question because I didn’t want to put anyone off by starting off with a massive wall of text (as it usually puts me off)

Roughly three years ago when Pluto started its transit towards my DC for the first time I ended an emotionally abusive relationship, which had been lingering due to his poor health so I was in the strange situation of recovering while from it while he was in hospital. It’s also around the time that I began to teach myself astrology.

As I recovered emotionally and physically from this relationship I began to feel more and more empowered and had a clear understanding of why I had allowed the toxic relationship to go on for so long. It was about a year after this that I bumped into a friend who I’d known through a social circle and had been attracted to the first time we met 9 years before, but he had been in a relationship at the time. He is now my parter and we’ve been together nearly two years. All of our angles conjunct within less than a degree and his moon conjuncts my NN, his Pluto also sits on my IC. We met when Pluto was conjunct both our mutual DC in Aqua. I have never experienced such quick and positive transformation through was is a very loving and healing relationship. I would describe it as a conscious partnership which is accepting, appreciating and open. Our communication is incredible. He has also experienced deep healing.

Our composite Jupiter, Sun and Venus conjunction are all in Cancer in the 12th house and Jupiter has been pinging the whole set while I’ve been given this news. He’s been incredible throughout and his Venus conjunct Saturn in the 12th house has been shining, as you can imagine!

So, in short I have already met the person who is the important partner. My confidence has increased massively, I’m doing things I never thought I could do, and I feel like I am becoming the person who I am meant to be. The person who was yanked away when my Dad died suddenly of a heart attack (as a result of what we think was sarcoidosis) when I was 6 and he was 35. He also had a Leo moon btw.

I’m learning that who I am, my wisdom and way of being are not only “enough” but are also a beacon of light to others.

Yes, you are right, I have been predisposed to health crisis and so has my Mum (and my Dad all though it was just the one that ended his life). You wouldn’t believe it if I told you how much my family has been through! My Mum and I have a joke - that she takes a licking and keeps on ticking. She’s had three different types of cancer, but she recovers every time.

My faith in life has increased massively since I met my partner and I think it’s because he’s been teaching me to let go and enjoy it, something which I’ve always struggled to do.

So, I still find it strange, amongst all of this healing and love and enjoyment and expansion I’m having heart surgery. It almost seems like the universe is saying “well it seems you’ve learned some new skills, now I’m going to put you to the test so that you can really use them!”

But as you said, transiting Neptune and Saturn have been in opposition to my Virgo stellium, which has caused a lot of confusion and Pluto square my Scorpio moon and Mars is like transformational double whammy focused on letting go of control. (Which is another lesson I’ve been learning through my relationship).

So, what I’m saying is that: I’m already there! Quite often the heavy hitting transits cause turmoil in my life. So it’s strange to not be affected by it in the same way and I wonder what more transformation I can do!? ;-D

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posted August 31, 2025 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think because of the slow nature of Plu and how it will be going into retrograde n
motion next year too, there could be additional surprises in store.

The transformation you have done , is all in terms what you are consciously aware of. Plu is the underbelly and has the tendency of surfacing even that which is hidden from you.

The transit of Plu in Cap from 2020( when at 24 Cap) through to now(Aqua 1) has seen me triggered by so much. There was envy, jealousy, rage and feelings of worthlessness that I have had to wrestle with.

These feelings changed me inside out because of the trigger of Plu to natal Plu in 8th house(co ruled by Mars ).

So this interaction has contributed to me as a person NOW.

I don't think I am nearly as trusting as I was prior to the transit.A lot has happened to wipe away innocence and naivete. A lot.

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posted September 14, 2025 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 18, 2025 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoIsMyTeacher13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I think because of the slow nature of Plu and how it will be going into retrograde n
motion next year too, there could be additional surprises in store.

The transformation you have done , is all in terms what you are consciously aware of. Plu is the underbelly and has the tendency of surfacing even that which is hidden from you.

The transit of Plu in Cap from 2020( when at 24 Cap) through to now(Aqua 1) has seen me triggered by so much. There was envy, jealousy, rage and feelings of worthlessness that I have had to wrestle with.

These feelings changed me inside out because of the trigger of Plu to natal Plu in 8th house(co ruled by Mars ).

So this interaction has contributed to me as a person NOW.

I don't think I am nearly as trusting as I was prior to the transit.A lot has happened to wipe away innocence and naivete. A lot.


Thank you. Yeah agreed, always more to be done but I was speaking in relation to the surgery and my health.

My partner’s Uranus is conjunct my Moon in the 4th in Scorpio and his Pluto is conjunct my IC. We also have Pluto, the IC and the North Node all conjunct in Libra in our composite in the 4th. Living together became a project that was started early on but situation makes it complicated.

His ex has way more influence on our lives than I’d like and that brings up a lot of intense emotions for me.

But as you said, I came here to transform. This I know to be true

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