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Topic: Atypical Libran. Why?
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libran taurus Newflake Posts: 16 From: SC. Brazil Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 01, 2025 01:25 PM
I'm a Libran male, born 09/29, with Scorpio Asc, Taurus Moon, Virgo Venus, Cancer Mars, Leo mid sky, Aries vertex.All I read about Libra does not fit me. I am very outspoken, confrontational, hold nothing and will tell people off if they **** me enough. Also, I easily lose it over selfish/narcisistic people and my anger comes even more ugly against those ones. Even my Aquarius and Scorpio brothers fear me, otherwise, I'll beat them up because they both are very selfish, negative, envious and gossiping people. Actually, I'm the only person they respect and fear because of these no nonsense traits that I have. Btw, I'm the youngest of 3. According to people who surround me, I'm an angel until I switch to devil. If Libra is all that peace, love and forgiveness, why am I nothing like that? IP: Logged |
Robin Goodfellow Knowflake Posts: 329 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted September 01, 2025 03:29 PM
That's because other influences are coloring your sun. You could be more differentiated than your more typical libras.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 32577 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 01, 2025 04:10 PM
All Librans I’ve encountered, were outspoken. IP: Logged |
Belage2 Knowflake Posts: 1189 From: Registered: Jan 2025
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posted September 01, 2025 04:26 PM
Astrology is way more than Sun signs. You may be Libra Sun, but if you are Scorpio rising, your Libra Sun is most likely in your 12th house, a location where it is not really allowed to function fully. The 12th house is probably the most difficult house to actualize and own, it is like the attic in our house,a place where we don't really like to go. Your risinig sign is showing, in the way you describe your relationship with your siblings, and how being respected and feared is valuable to you. Regarding your 12th house, what I have seen is that we have to make peace with our 12th house, especially if we have planets there. Eventually, you will be able to actualize your 12th house Libra Sun and understand how it works and how it is part of your journey. Down the line, you may have to learn to make compromises, to weight different options instead of the my way or the highway, to be less confrontational, to be less fixed in your outlook and opinions. IP: Logged |
Preppyarcher7989Wiff Knowflake Posts: 662 From: United States Registered: Jan 2024
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posted September 01, 2025 09:34 PM
You likely have Mars in Cancer square Sun in Libra. If your Mercury is also in Libra, then you might also have Mars in Cancer square Mercury in Libra, which can be verbally aggressive.It also depends on the rest of your chart, too.
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 11367 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted September 02, 2025 02:42 AM
Could you attach a chart to your question?I don't think that ones Sun sign expression can ever be erased. But it can( especially instances of when it's in house 12 or 7) be difficult to consciously "own".Because even if you don't know what you are doing, you are still doing what you are doing. The challenge is seeing it from a conscious level. I myself have had such challenges with my Sun in Sag conj Neptune. And the fact that I was born near the ending of that sign, had me confused about whether I was Sun in Sag or Cap or both. I have found however that you are your Sun sign. But there as factirsand aspects from within the birthchart(especially aspects yo Asc/Sun/Moon by square, conjunction or opposition) that colour that expression. But even as they colour that expression, they do not diminish it. And add to that,the timing of the progressions (in event sequence) also echoes that. IP: Logged |
libran taurus Newflake Posts: 16 From: SC. Brazil Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 02, 2025 10:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Could you attend a chart to your question?I
Sun Libra 6°12' Moon Taurus 0°56' Mercury Virgo 21°34' Venus Virgo 8°21' Mars Cancer 16°37' Jupiter Cancer 5°08' Saturn Leo 26°08' Uranus Scorpio 9°57' Neptune Sagitt 13°42' Pluto Libra 13°48' Lilith Gemini 17°45' N Node Libra 15°07 Sun Square Jupiter 1°04' -80 Sun Conjunction Pluto 7°36' 53 Sun Conjunction N Node 8°55' 19 Sun Sextile X MC 3°00' 40 Moon Trine Venus 7°25' 8 Moon Sextile Jupiter 4°12' 75 Moon Trine Saturn 4°48' 47 Mercury Sextile Mars 4°57' 2 Mercury Square Lilith 3°49' -44 Mercury Sextile I ASC 0°44' 204 Venus Sextile Jupiter 3°13' 56 Venus Sextile Uranus 1°36' 68 Venus Square Neptune 5°22' -5 Mars Trine Uranus 6°40' 7 Mars Square Pluto 2°49' -19 Mars Square N Node 1°30' -19 Mars Trine I ASC 4°12' 14 Jupiter Trine Uranus 4°49' 41 Saturn Square I ASC 5°18' -3 Uranus Square X MC 0°45' -26 Neptune Sextile Pluto 0°05' 59 Neptune Opposition Lilith 4°03' -22 Neptune Sextile N Node 1°25' 14 Neptune Trine X MC 4°30' 9 Pluto Trine Lilith 3°57' 5 Pluto Conjunction N Node 1°19' 0 Pluto Sextile X MC 4°36' 2
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libran taurus Newflake Posts: 16 From: SC. Brazil Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 02, 2025 10:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by Belage2: Astrology is way more than Sun signs. Your risinig sign is showing, in the way you describe your relationship with your siblings, and how being respected and feared is valuable to you.
Hi! Keeping my siblings under fear control is vital for them not to exploit my elderly parents. Both brothers keep trying to sneak in and take money out of their pockets with various excuses, all of them are lies. They are two gutless creeps whose parasithic actions almost brankrupted my parents. I don't like to be squabbling all the time, but it is necessary, otherwise, my parents are gonna go live under a bridge. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 2813 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted September 02, 2025 12:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: All Librans I’ve encountered, were outspoken.
Yep. Libra as charged😏 It’s like people try to keep Libra nice and quiet and impose on them that image to be nice and keep their mouth shut even astrologically. IP: Logged |
Belage2 Knowflake Posts: 1189 From: Registered: Jan 2025
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posted September 02, 2025 01:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by libran taurus: Hi! Keeping my siblings under fear control is vital for them not to exploit my elderly parents. Both brothers keep trying to sneak in and take money out of their pockets with various excuses, all of them are lies. They are two gutless creeps whose parasithic actions almost brankrupted my parents. I don't like to be squabbling all the time, but it is necessary, otherwise, my parents are gonna go live under a bridge.
If such is the case, then that's a good thing. Your ruling planet Mars being in Cancer makes you protective of your parents. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 32577 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 02, 2025 01:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: Yep. Libra as charged😏It’s like people try to keep Libra nice and quiet and impose on them that image to be nice and keep their mouth shut even astrologically.
I have moon conjunct venus, and was almost always the good, quiet one, but that's basically what all women are expected to be. When I got really upset with someone, and he said I was like other women (not "different" and compliant), I thanked him for noticing. I remember someone gasping when I swore, and I was well into adulthood. I was thinking last week, that one reason it was okay for me to be quiet, was that my mother (Libra Moon, Jupiter, Chiron, and Neptune), was outspoken, and fighting when needed. I backed her up, but I wasn't having to deal with everyone. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 32577 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 02, 2025 01:58 PM
I've been having issues with the site. It's so slow. IP: Logged |
libran taurus Newflake Posts: 16 From: SC. Brazil Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 02, 2025 02:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I have moon conjunct venus, and was almost always the good, quiet one, but that's basically what all women are expected to be. When I got really upset with someone, and he said I was like other women (not "different" and compliant), I thanked him for noticing. I remember someone gasping when I swore, and I was well into adulthood. I was thinking last week, that one reason it was okay for me to be quiet, was that my mother (Libra Moon, Jupiter, Chiron, and Neptune), was outspoken, and fighting when needed. I backed her up, but I wasn't having to deal with everyone.
quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: Yep. Libra as charged😏It’s like people try to keep Libra nice and quiet and impose on them that image to be nice and keep their mouth shut even astrologically.
When I was little, my brothers used to hit me when mom and dad weren't seeing. I kept that anside for years until the day that I, then 16 years old, stopped it. Fury took over me, like, wrath. I had never felt like that before and I simply let it all out. No more holding in. I grabbed my eldest brother by the throat. He's Scorpio, started screaming as I tightened my hand with ire and he fell knocekd out. I jumped on him and, when he woke up, I said: hit me again and you will wake in hell next time. He didn't speak with me in years, but aftewards, we agreed to pretend it was all good when at mother's. My other brother saw it all. Aquarius? He just ran away. There was no fury, no brute force, just pure cowardness. He started to talk to me in a very, very respectful way since then. It's sad, though. I never wanted to touch anyone, but getting hit for years by two psyco cowards can make one really explode. And things changed forever after that. For better, at least. IP: Logged |
ThunderSword Knowflake Posts: 304 From: objectivity department. Registered: Aug 2024
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posted September 02, 2025 10:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage2: Astrology is way more than Sun signs. You may be Libra Sun, but if you are Scorpio rising, your Libra Sun is most likely in your 12th house, a location where it is not really allowed to function fully. The 12th house is probably the most difficult house to actualize and own, it is like the attic in our house,a place where we don't really like to go. Your risinig sign is showing, in the way you describe your relationship with your siblings, and how being respected and feared is valuable to you. Regarding your 12th house, what I have seen is that we have to make peace with our 12th house, especially if we have planets there. Eventually, you will be able to actualize your 12th house Libra Sun and understand how it works and how it is part of your journey. Down the line, you may have to learn to make compromises, to weight different options instead of the my way or the highway, to be less confrontational, to be less fixed in your outlook and opinions.
I agree with Belage
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 11367 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted September 03, 2025 01:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I've been having issues with the site. It's so slow.
Thought it was just me. Kept on refreshing and ended up posting more than 3times on another thread. But i think the problem is sorted now. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 11367 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted September 03, 2025 01:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by libran taurus: Sun Libra 6°12' Moon Taurus 0°56' Mercury Virgo 21°34' Venus Virgo 8°21' Mars Cancer 16°37' Jupiter Cancer 5°08' Saturn Leo 26°08' Uranus Scorpio 9°57' Neptune Sagitt 13°42' Pluto Libra 13°48' Lilith Gemini 17°45' N Node Libra 15°07 Sun Square Jupiter 1°04' -80 Sun Conjunction Pluto 7°36' 53 Sun Conjunction N Node 8°55' 19 Sun Sextile X MC 3°00' 40 Moon Trine Venus 7°25' 8 Moon Sextile Jupiter 4°12' 75 Moon Trine Saturn 4°48' 47 Mercury Sextile Mars 4°57' 2 Mercury Square Lilith 3°49' -44 Mercury Sextile I ASC 0°44' 204 Venus Sextile Jupiter 3°13' 56 Venus Sextile Uranus 1°36' 68 Venus Square Neptune 5°22' -5 Mars Trine Uranus 6°40' 7 Mars Square Pluto 2°49' -19 Mars Square N Node 1°30' -19 Mars Trine I ASC 4°12' 14 Jupiter Trine Uranus 4°49' 41 Saturn Square I ASC 5°18' -3 Uranus Square X MC 0°45' -26 Neptune Sextile Pluto 0°05' 59 Neptune Opposition Lilith 4°03' -22 Neptune Sextile N Node 1°25' 14 Neptune Trine X MC 4°30' 9 Pluto Trine Lilith 3°57' 5 Pluto Conjunction N Node 1°19' 0 Pluto Sextile X MC 4°36' 2
Its never just the Sun. Although here that can also be included in the mix. There is more in the rest of the chart. Sun conj Pluto/Node. Moon widely opposing Uranus. Mars square Plu/Node. Uranus square Ic. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 2813 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted September 03, 2025 10:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by libran taurus: When I was little, my brothers used to hit me when mom and dad weren't seeing. I kept that anside for years until the day that I, then 16 years old, stopped it. Fury took over me, like, wrath. I had never felt like that before and I simply let it all out. No more holding in. I grabbed my eldest brother by the throat. He's Scorpio, started screaming as I tightened my hand with ire and he fell knocekd out. I jumped on him and, when he woke up, I said: hit me again and you will wake in hell next time. He didn't speak with me in years, but aftewards, we agreed to pretend it was all good when at mother's. My other brother saw it all. Aquarius? He just ran away. There was no fury, no brute force, just pure cowardness. He started to talk to me in a very, very respectful way since then. It's sad, though. I never wanted to touch anyone, but getting hit for years by two psyco cowards can make one really explode. And things changed forever after that. For better, at least.
Bad family dynamic in childhood usually influences your whole life and reflects in a natal chart. The stronger zodiac signs can perceive Libra as weak. I also needed to show some people I can be dangerous to get consideration.Sun in Libra is a planet at fall what is suppressed ego. As being Libra, my family could be pretty toxic. And nobody asked me what I wanted; they just told me. However, Libra symbolizes and connected to justice due to its symbol of the scales. It will fight for justice. And it is about fairness and balance. So it can have a problem to tolerate the absence of those. It’s considering to be a good sign for Lawyers. There are some halfway descriptions on internet. People who think Libra is simply nice and agreeable don’t dig deep. Also, your Sun has tight square with Jupiter. Jupiter gives a boost, and confidence, and luck to a planet. Though square represents some challenges. Like you might need to learn how to use your power correctly and have changing luck in life. You would have more confidence than average Libra. And mars in cancer can represent repressed anger related to family issues.
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Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 2813 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted September 03, 2025 11:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I have moon conjunct venus, and was almost always the good, quiet one, but that's basically what all women are expected to be. When I got really upset with someone, and he said I was like other women (not "different" and compliant), I thanked him for noticing. I remember someone gasping when I swore, and I was well into adulthood. I was thinking last week, that one reason it was okay for me to be quiet, was that my mother (Libra Moon, Jupiter, Chiron, and Neptune), was outspoken, and fighting when needed. I backed her up, but I wasn't having to deal with everyone.
It’s a pretty nice feminine aspect. It can give you desire to follow more feminine energy and avoid confrontation.IP: Logged |
libran taurus Newflake Posts: 16 From: SC. Brazil Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 03, 2025 03:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: Bad family dynamic in childhood usually influences your whole life and reflects in a natal chart. The stronger zodiac signs can perceive Libra as weak. I also needed to show some people I can be dangerous to get consideration.Sun in Libra is a planet at fall what is suppressed ego. As being Libra, my family could be pretty toxic. And nobody asked me what I wanted; they just told me. However, Libra symbolizes and connected to justice due to its symbol of the scales. It will fight for justice. And it is about fairness and balance. So it can have a problem to tolerate the absence of those. It’s considering to be a good sign for Lawyers. There are some halfway descriptions on internet. People who think Libra is simply nice and agreeable don’t dig deep. Also, your Sun has tight square with Jupiter. Jupiter gives a boost, and confidence, and luck to a planet. Though square represents some challenges. Like you might need to learn how to use your power correctly and have changing luck in life. You would have more confidence than average Libra. And mars in cancer can represent repressed anger related to family issues.
I can relate to all of that. My noisy siblings, as children, drew attention enough to drain both my parents to exhaustion. Nobody even cared whether I was alive. I've always had excellent grades, never a problem at school nor with my friends, but the guys back home would be nasty to me for no reason. You said it all: they saw me as weak because I am the type who always follows the rules. They're both naturally unruly. My parents are Taurus (dad) and Cancer (mom). While they have a made in heaven match, their loving nature spoiled all of us and that misoriented my brothers, unfortunately. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 211499 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 03, 2025 05:21 PM
Great info!IP: Logged |
93nov Knowflake Posts: 387 From: Registered: Oct 2019
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posted September 04, 2025 06:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: Yep. Libra as charged😏It’s like people try to keep Libra nice and quiet and impose on them that image to be nice and keep their mouth shut even astrologically.
My moon is in Libra, ruling my 3rd house in Cancer. This is spot on lol. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 211499 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 04, 2025 04:22 PM
It is spot on!IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 211499 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 05, 2025 07:45 PM
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Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 2813 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted September 12, 2025 11:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by libran taurus: I can relate to all of that. My noisy siblings, as children, drew attention enough to drain both my parents to exhaustion. Nobody even cared whether I was alive. I've always had excellent grades, never a problem at school nor with my friends, but the guys back home would be nasty to me for no reason. You said it all: they saw me as weak because I am the type who always follows the rules. They're both naturally unruly. My parents are Taurus (dad) and Cancer (mom). While they have a made in heaven match, their loving nature spoiled all of us and that misoriented my brothers, unfortunately.
Sun is also related to a parental figure. How you perceive your parents is fit with It’s making an aspect with Jupiter. Also, you can be a bigger and more forgiving person to let your family problems go or get on a better side. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 211499 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 07, 2025 09:53 AM
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