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pickle4997
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posted October 20, 2025 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pickle4997     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's the difference between Pluto aspecting the Midheaven and Pluto aspecting the Midheaven ruler? I have an exact trine between 5H Sag Pluto and Aries MC, and a in conjunction between that Pluto and my Taurus Mars. I'm curious about if they would be interpreted differently in general.

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pickle4997
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posted October 20, 2025 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pickle4997     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pickle4997:
What's the difference between Pluto aspecting the Midheaven and Pluto aspecting the Midheaven ruler? I have an exact trine between 5H Sag Pluto and Aries MC, and a in conjunction between that Pluto and my Taurus Mars. I'm curious about if they would be interpreted differently in general.

The Pluto/MC aspect is my closest but still.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted November 01, 2025 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In terms of transits, cnjunctions,oppositions and squares suggest BIG shifts in the career/home life. They are usually quite disruptive and change the face of one's life tremendously (and even irrevocably).

It could be the death of a family member resulting in attaining money and buying your own property? The birth of a child that requires a change in terms of priorities and where to live? A marriage that introduces you to a new society(like Meghan Markle)?

Maybe a health sitiation that leads to a downgrade and condensing of one's life? Or even a job situation which affects the domestic environment and requires relocation to a foreign land? Etc.

Due to the slow and "once in a lifetime" effect of Pluto on the natal angles, it is usually an important and significant period in one's life.

Don't ignore declinations.Pluto packs a punch.Transiting Pluto Aqua is semi-sextile and parallel my Sun right now.Ego stripping in progress? Yes.Painful? Yes.

Transiting Pluto parallel my Mc and conjunct natal Mercury in 2016, changed my world and rearranged my family status. It can't be reversed.


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pickle4997
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posted November 11, 2025 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pickle4997     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
In terms of transits, cnjunctions,oppositions and squares suggest BIG shifts in the career/home life. They are usually quite disruptive and change the face of one's life tremendously (and even irrevocably).

It could be the death of a family member resulting in attaining money and buying your own property? The birth of a child that requires a change in terms of priorities and where to live? A marriage that introduces you to a new society(like Meghan Markle)?

Maybe a health sitiation that leads to a downgrade and condensing of one's life? Or even a job situation which affects the domestic environment and requires relocation to a foreign land? Etc.

Due to the slow and "once in a lifetime" effect of Pluto on the natal angles, it is usually an important and significant period in one's life.

Don't ignore declinations.Pluto packs a punch.Transiting Pluto Aqua is semi-sextile and parallel my Sun right now.Ego stripping in progress? Yes.Painful? Yes.

Transiting Pluto parallel my Mc and conjunct natal Mercury in 2016, changed my world and rearranged my family status. It can't be reversed.


What about Natally? Pluto is actually sextiling my MC at the moment but the trine to the MC and quincunx to the ruler, I have natally

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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted November 11, 2025 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd say natally Pluto in aspect to MC ruler is more intense.

Overall with both, the person's job is something they're very passionate about and points to a person who has the potential to ruthlessly follow their dream path, and sacrifice hobbies or friends for their job, even if down the road they face betrayal from people who help them go up.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted November 13, 2025 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pickle4997:
What about Natally? Pluto is actually sextiling my MC at the moment but the trine to the MC and quincunx to the ruler, I have natally

I wouldn't look at it to be as intense as the above aspects mentioned.Sextiles and trines work like a well oiled machines. It could be a situation that facilitates another aspect in the chart. What does your chart look like?

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posted November 14, 2025 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frida     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
I'd say natally Pluto in aspect to MC ruler is more intense.

Overall with both, the person's job is something they're very passionate about and points to a person who has the potential to ruthlessly follow their dream path, and sacrifice hobbies or friends for their job, even if down the road they face betrayal from people who help them go up.


I know someone with Pluto conjunct MC in Scorpio. This resonates strongly.

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pickle4997
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posted November 14, 2025 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pickle4997     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I wouldn't look at it to be as intense as the above aspects mentioned.Sextiles and trines work like a well oiled machines. It could be a situation that facilitates another aspect in the chart. What does your chart look like?

It doesn't let me post a picture. Cancer Ascendant, I have a 5th house Sag Pluto and a 10th house Taurus mars (6th house Pluto and 11th house Mars in Whole sign)

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Aries23Degrees
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posted November 15, 2025 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Still trying to articulate this Pluto effect
Will be back.🤔

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posted December 09, 2025 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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