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Topic: Birth Significations for “Greatest Actors of Their Time”
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pickle4997
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posted December 02, 2025 04:31 PM
  
As a chamber astrologer and theatre historian, I’ve been intrigued by question of what makes certain actors considered by many to be the greatest of their time—everything I’ve found online regarding astrological significations for acting usually point to being apt to transformability/entertainment, social prominence and the desire for attention and/or fame, which, at a certain point, plays a role in terms of having one’s work seen by enough people to be judged “the greatest” by an entire generation of people; however, I’m more interested in the skill of the actor; actors that were said to have possessed great power on stage and an unusually strong, mesmerizing, and oftentimes polarizing affect on an audience, to the point of FRISSON (a quite common occurrence in the theatre audiences during the period of the “Grande Attore” (the Great Actor, which was prominent from the mid to late 19th century)). I took the charts of actors who, throughout history, have been considered the “greatest of their generation” by peers and critics/historians alike; who have had a substantial, somewhat meteoric rise and long career and impact culturally and artistically; as well as those noted to have very DISTINCT styles of acting that have had profound impact on their audiences, as well as perhaps imitated by other actors (mostly in the theatre, however, many of these artists also worked on screen). In short, not simply great actors but Virtuosos. This is not BY FAR an exhaustive list, and there are many actors who have been considered greats that are not included in this list. It’s a incredibly subjective art form. This is simply a cross section of those I found fit that criteria by my research throughout recent theatre history. I took their charts and found some very interesting/partly surprising aspects/placements that were consistent among them. I’m curious how you all might interpret these significations when it comes to one’s astrological propensity for virtuosity in acting. Also open to other actors and hearing more placements.*** indicates placements I found in a majority of the charts (Ira Aldridge, Vanessa Redgrave, Eleonora Duse, Charles Laughton, Josef Kainz, Alessandro Moissi, Pavel Mochalov, Polina Strepetova, Henry Irving, Laurette Taylor, Marlon Brando, Meryl Streep, John Hurt, Kim Stanley, Anthony Hopkins, Sada Yacco, Mei Lanfang, Laurence Olivier, Canada Lee, Edmund Kean, David Garrick, Viola Davis, Denzel Washington, Viola Davis, Daniel Day Lewis) * Sun Square Mars***
* Leo Rising***
* Venus square Node***
* Mars/Lilith and Sun sq (Op) Lilith;More prominent in Actresses (women/female identifying) ***
* Moon/Chiron; more prominent in Actors (men/male identifying)***
* Mars/Mercury***(Mars square Mercury)
* Virgo/Scorpio Moon
* Uranus/Sun;10H
* Ruler of the 8th, 10th or 11th in 2nd House
* Earth Mars, 1 Water, Air, Fire
* Moon/Jupiter aspect
* Vertex in 5th
* Moon/Uranus midpoint
* Jupiter/MC midpoint IP: Logged |
Belage2
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posted December 02, 2025 04:48 PM
Fascinating subject and I am loving what you are doing with it.  I will come back to this thread in a few days after I have a chance to organize my thoughts. IP: Logged |
MMarie
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posted December 03, 2025 12:33 AM
Love this topic! I’ve noticed a lot of actors have a combo of Scorpio and Libra. Anne Hathaway, Leo DiCaprio and Emma Stone are all Scorpios with Libra moons. Libra suns with Scorpio moons - Matthew Macfadyn, Will Smith, Julie Andrew’s. Matthew McConaughey, Joaquin Phoenix, Tilda Swinton are all Scorpio. There is a long list of Scorpios lol. Not that these are all the greatest of their generation, but many have Oscar’s, etc. Other signs I’ve taken note of in actors are Aries, Virgo and Capricorn. IP: Logged |
pickle4997
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posted December 03, 2025 01:51 AM
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Originally posted by MMarie:
Love this topic! I’ve noticed a lot of actors have a combo of Scorpio and Libra. Anne Hathaway, Leo DiCaprio and Emma Stone are all Scorpios with Libra moons. Libra suns with Scorpio moons - Matthew Macfadyn, Will Smith, Julie Andrew’s. Matthew McConaughey, Joaquin Phoenix, Tilda Swinton are all Scorpio. There is a long list of Scorpios lol. Not that these are all the greatest of their generation, but many have Oscar’s, etc. Other signs I’ve taken note of in actors are Aries, Virgo and Capricorn.
I did notice that! Eleonora Duse, one of the actresses in the bunch considered the greatest by many actors even up to today, was a Libra Sun and Scorpio Venus. Very interesting! IP: Logged |
SleepyDiary
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posted December 03, 2025 03:05 AM
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Originally posted by MMarie:
Love this topic! I’ve noticed a lot of actors have a combo of Scorpio and Libra. Anne Hathaway, Leo DiCaprio and Emma Stone are all Scorpios with Libra moons. Libra suns with Scorpio moons - Matthew Macfadyn, Will Smith, Julie Andrew’s. Matthew McConaughey, Joaquin Phoenix, Tilda Swinton are all Scorpio. There is a long list of Scorpios lol. Not that these are all the greatest of their generation, but many have Oscar’s, etc. Other signs I’ve taken note of in actors are Aries, Virgo and Capricorn.
People with Scorpio placements are incredible actors especially when they are doing a intense scene with a lot of emotions. I find Leo placements to be great actors too like Zoe Saldana and Charlize theron and can do "angry" and emotional scenes really well. Will Smith with his Scorpio Moon and Libra Sun when he is crying his eyes out in a movie is so gut wrenching, the same with Leo dicaprio and Joaquin Phoenix they really know how to get to you. Earth placements i like more in less emotional scenes they really play the "wise" guy or woman really well or the bad person but in emotional scenes i don`t find them so convincing. I also like Earth placements in funny roles too like Johnny Depp as Jack sparrow and Brad Pitt in Glorious ******** Air placements are really good with comedy and can really deliver some funny lines with a stone cold face so well. IP: Logged |
Belage2
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posted December 04, 2025 03:09 PM
Right off the top of my head, using how I understand astrology, I have some theory that I will have to investigate further to see how it pans out. Basically, I would look at the following aspects or planets:
-*- Astrology traditionally assigns Venus as the planet ruling the entertainments, and I do agree, HOWEVER when it comes to who is considered GOAT, I don't believe Venus is the determinant.
-*- Instead, Saturn has to be prominent, if this person's talent and body of work are highly regarded by peers and critics, that means it stands the test of time. Saturn is the ultimate BOSS and it produces work that endures. Contrast that with actors who are highly regarded not so much by their peers but by the general public, which to me is more of a Neptunian thing, as the common man can be easily fooled by less than stellar acting, with smoke and mirror Neptune compensating for excellence. Also a well placed Jupiter can make it easy to get to the top without being actually the best. -*- The element of FRISSON to me has to do with Uranus, when out of nowhere, someone's acting gives you the chills. Such an actor may have Uranus aspecting his/her personal planets. That being said, the ability to shapeshift and portray different roles could be a Neptunian thing, a Mercurial thing, or both. IP: Logged |
Belage2
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posted December 04, 2025 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by pickle4997:
*** indicates placements I found in a majority of the charts(Ira Aldridge, Vanessa Redgrave, Eleonora Duse, Charles Laughton, Josef Kainz, Alessandro Moissi, Pavel Mochalov, Polina Strepetova, Henry Irving, Laurette Taylor, Marlon Brando, Meryl Streep, John Hurt, Kim Stanley, Anthony Hopkins, Sada Yacco, Mei Lanfang, Laurence Olivier, Canada Lee, Edmund Kean, David Garrick, Viola Davis, Denzel Washington, Viola Davis, Daniel Day Lewis) * Sun Square Mars***
* Leo Rising***
* Venus square Node***
* Mars/Lilith and Sun sq (Op) Lilith;More prominent in Actresses (women/female identifying) ***
* Moon/Chiron; more prominent in Actors (men/male identifying)***
* Mars/Mercury***(Mars square Mercury)
* Virgo/Scorpio Moon
* Uranus/Sun;10H
* Ruler of the 8th, 10th or 11th in 2nd House
* Earth Mars, 1 Water, Air, Fire
* Moon/Jupiter aspect
* Vertex in 5th
* Moon/Uranus midpoint
* Jupiter/MC midpoint
I am trying to understand why the following aspects: * Sun Square Mars***
* Venus square Node***
* Mars/Lilith and Sun sq (Op) Lilith;More prominent in Actresses (women/female identifying) ***
* Moon/Chiron; more prominent in Actors (men/male identifying)***
* Mars/Mercury***(Mars square Mercury)
* Earth Mars, 1 Water, Air, Fire
* Moon/Jupiter aspect
* Jupiter/MC midpoint But I can see why: * Leo Rising***
* Virgo/Scorpio Moon
* Uranus/Sun;10H
* Ruler of the 8th, 10th or 11th in 2nd House
* Vertex in 5th
* Moon/Uranus midpoint IP: Logged |
Belage2
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posted December 05, 2025 10:21 PM
To test my theory using Saturn and Uranus, I went and looked at just 5 of the actors memtioned:1) Vanessa Redgrave:
Leo ascendant, with Chart ruler Sun in Aquarius and square Uranus! So she is very Uranian, and Saturnian, since Aqua is ruled by Uranus and Saturn. 2) Marlon Brando:
Astrotheme has him as Sagg rising at 3 degrees. Hogwash! Marlon has to be Scorp rising, late degrees. Just look at 100 photographs of him, and you can see the dark, smoldering, intense, look of scorpio rising.
His chart rulers Mars and Pluto are in opposition to each other, with Uranus making beneficial aspects like trine and sextile to the planets in the opposition. He also had Saturn conjunct Mercury. IP: Logged |
Belage2
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posted December 05, 2025 10:25 PM
Continued:3) Meryl Streep
Leo rising, with chart ruler Sun conjunct Uranus and sextile Saturn 4) Viola Davis
Time unknown. Saturn plays a dominant role in her chart:
= = Saturn quincunxing her Sun
= = Saturn opposing her Virgo stellium of Uranus, Pluto and Veneus
= = Saturn trine Neptune IP: Logged |
Belage2
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posted December 05, 2025 10:26 PM
lastly:5) Denzel Washington
Libra rising
Chart ruler Venus is conjunct Saturn
Chart ruler Venus is trine Uranus. IP: Logged |
Belage2
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posted December 05, 2025 10:41 PM
What the heck, I added one more
6) Daniel Day Lewis.
Time of birth uknown...
= = He has Saturn quincunxs Sun and Venus conjunction
= = Uranus squares SunThose 6 actors I picked, I actually know them and their body of work, and they have all given me that FRISSON OP talked about. I am not really familiar with the others, though I know many of the names. I will probably look up their charts when I have more time.
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pickle4997
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posted December 06, 2025 01:54 AM
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Originally posted by Belage2:
I am trying to understand why the following aspects:* Sun Square Mars***
* Venus square Node***
* Mars/Lilith and Sun sq (Op) Lilith;More prominent in Actresses (women/female identifying) ***
* Moon/Chiron; more prominent in Actors (men/male identifying)***
* Mars/Mercury***(Mars square Mercury)
* Earth Mars, 1 Water, Air, Fire
* Moon/Jupiter aspect
* Jupiter/MC midpoint But I can see why: * Leo Rising***
* Virgo/Scorpio Moon
* Uranus/Sun;10H
* Ruler of the 8th, 10th or 11th in 2nd House
* Vertex in 5th
* Moon/Uranus midpoint
It was bemusing to me as well! These were not aspects I’d come up with on my own either; their archetypal interpretations did not, to me, immediately point to acting. Yet, they appeared in most all of the charts (ESPECIALLY Sun square Mars—so odd) in a way that made me wonder what about them pointed to great actors. Would love to know their significations/your interpretations of them in general as I’m not too familiar with them.
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pickle4997
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posted December 06, 2025 02:10 AM
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Originally posted by Belage2:
Right off the top of my head, using how I understand astrology, I have some theory that I will have to investigate further to see how it pans out. Basically, I would look at the following aspects or planets:
-*- Astrology traditionally assigns Venus as the planet ruling the entertainments, and I do agree, HOWEVER when it comes to who is considered GOAT, I don't believe Venus is the determinant.
-*- Instead, Saturn has to be prominent, if this person's talent and body of work are highly regarded by peers and critics, that means it stands the test of time. Saturn is the ultimate BOSS and it produces work that endures. Contrast that with actors who are highly regarded not so much by their peers but by the general public, which to me is more of a Neptunian thing, as the common man can be easily fooled by less than stellar acting, with smoke and mirror Neptune compensating for excellence. Also a well placed Jupiter can make it easy to get to the top without being actually the best. -*- The element of FRISSON to me has to do with Uranus, when out of nowhere, someone's acting gives you the chills. Such an actor may have Uranus aspecting his/her personal planets. That being said, the ability to shapeshift and portray different roles could be a Neptunian thing, a Mercurial thing, or both.
Wonderful! I agree with these signatures. I wonder what you might prescribe to the aspects listed in terms of their potential relationship to acting, especially with your knowledge of astrology. It’s bewildering to me why these specific ones kept showing up. IP: Logged |
pickle4997
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posted December 06, 2025 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by Belage2:
Right off the top of my head, using how I understand astrology, I have some theory that I will have to investigate further to see how it pans out. Basically, I would look at the following aspects or planets:
-*- Astrology traditionally assigns Venus as the planet ruling the entertainments, and I do agree, HOWEVER when it comes to who is considered GOAT, I don't believe Venus is the determinant.
-*- Instead, Saturn has to be prominent, if this person's talent and body of work are highly regarded by peers and critics, that means it stands the test of time. Saturn is the ultimate BOSS and it produces work that endures. Contrast that with actors who are highly regarded not so much by their peers but by the general public, which to me is more of a Neptunian thing, as the common man can be easily fooled by less than stellar acting, with smoke and mirror Neptune compensating for excellence. Also a well placed Jupiter can make it easy to get to the top without being actually the best. -*- The element of FRISSON to me has to do with Uranus, when out of nowhere, someone's acting gives you the chills. Such an actor may have Uranus aspecting his/her personal planets. That being said, the ability to shapeshift and portray different roles could be a Neptunian thing, a Mercurial thing, or both.
Also! Would you consider Saturn/Uranus/Neptunian ruled planets as well? For example an Aquarius Neptune or a Pisces Saturn aspecting a PP? So intrigued by this theory! IP: Logged |
Belage2
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posted December 06, 2025 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by pickle4997:
Wonderful! I agree with these signatures. I wonder what you might prescribe to the aspects listed in terms of their potential relationship to acting, especially with your knowledge of astrology. It’s bewildering to me why these specific ones kept showing up.
Good question, what do these aspects have to do with acting in particular, as opposed to say, singing? Acting is both visual and auditory, while singing is mostly auditory... Not sure, but will get back to you later on that... IP: Logged |
Belage2
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posted December 06, 2025 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by pickle4997:
Also! Would you consider Saturn/Uranus/Neptunian ruled planets as well? For example an Aquarius Neptune or a Pisces Saturn aspecting a PP? So intrigued by this theory!
Most definitely!  But it is just a nascent theory. We would need to look at many more "Greatest Actors of Their Time" to make sure this theory is actually backed by real cases. I will check out the other names you mentioned in your OP sometime next week...
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