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Leo-Cancer98
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posted December 31, 2025 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which planet could she have in her 3rd House? Or maybe 2nd House, since apparently it is associated with our voice.

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posted December 31, 2025 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Preppyarcher7989Wiff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She has Saturn in Gemini. When someone has Saturn in a house, or sign, they can become an expert of that house, or sign's subject. The annoyingly cliche word, 'late bloomer,' comes into play here.

Maybe she's learned, from trial, and error, how to communicate, good, and better.

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posted December 31, 2025 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The First thing that stood out to me is that she is an Air Rising with her Sun and Mercury in the expressive house of Leo in the 5th which can make someone great at expressing themselves and communicate. With her Libra Rising she might at first come off or seem like someone that is easy to talk with and be an excellent communicator especially to those that don`t know her so well because the Rising is the image and face we like to present to the world and with her 5th house Sun and Mercury she might have a strong need to express herself and be heard as well. But as time goes on and you get to know her some more she might start expressing more of those introverted qualities of her more feminine sign placements.

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posted January 01, 2026 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She has such a hard,stern face-which is reflective of that Venus in ♑ ruling her Asc in ♎.

Add to that,Pluto conjunct Asc would give her the"stare" (which i have seen with her). Such a glare! It's no wonder I have never warmed up to her.

Ruler of the 3rd(Jupiter) square Mars exact. Ability to assert oneself.

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posted January 01, 2026 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also Sun square Mars people (which she has) can be very direct and assertive people, sometimes too much so.

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posted January 01, 2026 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is her astrotheme chart:

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Jillian_Michaels

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posted January 02, 2026 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
Also Sun square Mars people (which she has) can be very direct and assertive people, sometimes too much so.

Yes. Completely missed that. Her 2nd house ruler is Mars and is square to her Jupiter Aqua conj Mars (out of sign) in 6th house Pisces(joining these two houses).

I have often seen 6th and 5th joined , as indicative of infusing creativity(5th) with work(6th), work(6th) with play or something physical(5th) or work(6th) that is enjoyable(5th) or forms part of one's self expression(5th) etc.

Ruler of 2nd♏ and 7th♈ is Mars.Mars is in the 8th house. She can make a living (2nd) by transforming others(8th) on a one on one basis(7th). In that, she can be very effective. Infact, she is very persuasive.

Even Pluto as co-ruler of her 2nd in 1st, would suggest making money(2and) through self efforts(1st). An entrepreneur of some sort.

And when Pluto is opposing Dsc, it may mean engaging others in a dominating way. In that one leads the interaction when engaging with others one on one.

Now that she is entering the political commentary arena, i don't think this changes.

Political commentary is strongly Mars/Jup driven. And one has to deal with relating and debating with others a lot too(7th).

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posted January 02, 2026 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her Pisces Mercury is square her Sagg Neptune, though. Mercury square Neptune traditionally means that she would have difficulties differencing between reality and her fantasies/wishes.

However, the 2 rulers of her Mercury, Neptune and Jupiter are present in Neptune in Sagg, therefore, this might mitigate the negative effects, and impart her charisma in expression and also ability to convince and convey her thoughts in a way that bypasses rational thoughts.

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posted January 02, 2026 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She is only 5'2"! She comes across as much taller!!! Probably due to Pluto conjunct her ascendant...

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posted January 02, 2026 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Yes. Completely missed that. Her 2nd house ruler is Mars and is square to her Jupiter Aqua conj Mars (out of sign) in 6th house Pisces(joining these two houses).

I have often seen 6th and 5th joined , as indicative of infusing creativity(5th) with work(6th), work(6th) with play or something physical(5th) or work(6th) that is enjoyable(5th) or forms part of one's self expression(5th) etc.

Ruler of 2nd♏ and 7th♈ is Mars.Mars is in the 8th house. She can make a living (2nd) by transforming others(8th) on a one on one basis(7th). In that, she can be very effective. Infact, she is very persuasive.

Even Pluto as co-ruler of her 2nd in 1st, would suggest making money(2and) through self efforts(1st). An entrepreneur of some sort.

And when Pluto is opposing Dsc, it may mean engaging others in a dominating way. In that one leads the interaction when engaging with others one on one.

Now that she is entering the political commentary arena, i don't think this changes.

Political commentary is strongly Mars/Jup driven. And one has to deal with relating and debating with others a lot too(7th).


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Originally posted by Belage2:
She is only 5'2"! She comes across as much taller!!! Probably due to Pluto conjunct her ascendant...

She has Uranus in the first which i have read can give someone a lengthy looking appearance. I wouldn`t have linked Pluto to tallness probably because i know a few with this position and they are often short or medium heights.

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posted January 02, 2026 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage2:
Her Pisces Mercury is square her Sagg Neptune, though. Mercury square Neptune traditionally means that she would have difficulties differencing between reality and her fantasies/wishes.

However, the 2 rulers of her Mercury, Neptune and Jupiter are present in Neptune in Sagg, therefore, this might mitigate the negative effects, and impart her charisma in expression and also ability to convince and convey her thoughts in a way that bypasses rational thoughts.


I think people sometimes forget that Pisces/Neptune can be great storytellers and sometimes convincingly tell a lie. One of the biggest flaws of this position is to be dishonest when expressed at a lower level. But they are also great at expressing themselves in a convincingly manner and can inspire sometimes too. Great if you are an actor doing a scene but bad if used to tell lies.

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posted January 03, 2026 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoldenSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
I think people sometimes forget that Pisces/Neptune can be great storytellers and sometimes convincingly tell a lie. One of the biggest flaws of this position is to be dishonest when expressed at a lower level. But they are also great at expressing themselves in a convincingly manner and can inspire sometimes too. Great if you are an actor doing a scene but bad if used to tell lies.

Jupiter energy is the original storyteller

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posted January 03, 2026 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoldenSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just to shed light on Pisces in numerology is 12 but also 1+2=3 which is Gemini that's the Mutable modality power of Pisces.

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