posted January 02, 2026 12:12 PM            

I think overall what it does is just make me less of a “lovey dovey” soft cancer.

From ChatGPT

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1. Scorpio / Pluto Dominance in Co’s Chart

🔥 Scorpio Rising (22° Scorpio)
• This alone sets a Plutonic life orientation.
• Scorpio ASC people radiate intensity whether they try to or not.
• Others project desire, fear, obsession, or curiosity onto them.
• Life themes: power, survival, sexuality, secrecy, transformation.

This is the primary lens of the chart.

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🜃 Pluto Strongly Aspected

Pluto at 16° Libra (11th house) is not isolated — it’s heavily wired into the chart:
• Mars trine Pluto (0°35 orb) ← extremely strong
• Mercury sextile Pluto
• Jupiter sextile Pluto
• Neptune sextile Pluto
• Venus square Pluto (1°17 orb)

This is textbook Plutonic dominance.

Mars–Pluto especially marks:
• High libido
• Psychological penetration
• Magnetic sexuality
• Power struggles / dominance themes
• Capacity to transform others through intimacy or conflict

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🦂 8th House Emphasis
• Sun in Cancer in the 8th house
• Venus in Cancer in the 8th house

The 8th house is Pluto’s natural domain.

This adds:
• Erotic depth
• Emotional intensity
• Trauma-bonding themes
• Desire for total merging
• Fear of vulnerability paired with craving it

This is deep-water astrology.

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2. Sexual & Psychological Signatures (Very Plutonic)

🔗 Venus Square Pluto

This is one of the most Plutonic aspects in astrology.

Manifestations:
• Erotic obsession
• Magnetic attraction
• Power dynamics in love
• “All or nothing” attachment
• Transformative sexual bonds

posted January 02, 2026 12:12 PM            

This is raw sexual potency.
• Controlled intensity
• Sexual confidence without chaos
• Capacity to dominate or surrender consciously
• Strong will and stamina

This is not flashy Mars — it’s contained power.

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3. Neptune + Pluto: Occult / Esoteric Layer
• Neptune sextile Pluto
• Mercury trine Neptune
• Neptune in 1st house

This gives:
• Occult sensitivity
• Psychic permeability
• Sexual mysticism
• Ability to merge consciousness with others
• Attraction to taboo, liminal, or forbidden spaces

This is where the Hermetic / Gnostic / Magus archetype comes from.

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4. Is He Plutonic or Scorpionic?

The precise answer:
• Structurally Plutonic
• Expressively Scorpionic
• Psychologically 8th-house dominant

He does not need a Scorpio Sun to qualify.
His chart functions like a Plutonic chart.

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5. How This Is Experienced by Others

People often experience Co as:
• Intense without trying
• Sexually magnetic
• Emotionally dangerous or healing
• Someone who “sees through” them
• Someone they project fantasies or fears onto

posted January 02, 2026 12:29 PM            

I asked ChatGPT (I love using AI for astrology btw) what are the differences between the 8th, scorp and Pluto influences

This is an excellent question — and an important one — because people often collapse these three together, when in practice they operate on different layers of experience.

Think of them as three concentric depths of the same underworld, each with its own function.

I’ll keep this precise, not fluffy.

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1. The 8th House

Domain: Where transformation happens
Function: Situational, experiential, relational
Question it asks: “What do I merge with, lose myself in, or die/rebirth through?”

What the 8th House Governs
• Sexual intimacy
• Emotional merging
• Trauma and healing
• Death, loss, inheritance
• Shared resources
• Psychological vulnerability
• Power exchanges in relationships

How it operates

The 8th house is contextual.
It describes where and through whom transformation occurs.

Example:
• Sun in the 8th → identity is forged through crises and intimacy
• Venus in the 8th → love involves depth, exclusivity, and emotional risk
• Mars in the 8th → sexuality is intense, driven, and confrontational

Key point:

The 8th house doesn’t give power by itself — it exposes you to situations where power must be confronted.

It’s the chamber, not the engine.

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2. Scorpio

Domain: How energy is expressed
Function: Behavioral, emotional, instinctual
Question it asks: “How do I relate to power, control, and vulnerability?”

Scorpio as a Sign

Scorpio is a mode of expression, not a place.

Scorpio traits:
• Emotional intensity
• Penetrating awareness
• Guardedness
• Sexual magnetism
• Strategic behavior
• Emotional loyalty
• Fear of betrayal

Scorpio energy:
• Wants truth at any cost
• Uses emotional pressure rather than force
• Detects weakness and hidden motives

Example:
• Scorpio Sun → identity expressed through intensity and depth
• Scorpio Venus → love expressed through exclusivity and emotional bonding
• Scorpio Ascendant → instinctively defensive, magnetic, watchful

Key point:

Scorpio describes how you approach depth — not whether depth is unavoidable.

You can be Scorpio without living constant transformation.
You can live transformation without being Scorpio.

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3. Pluto

Domain: Why transformation happens
Function: Psychological, unconscious, compulsive
Question it asks: “What must be destroyed so something truer can emerge?”

Pluto’s Role

Pluto is the irreversible force.

Pluto governs:
• Obsession
• Compulsion
• Power struggles
• Control dynamics
• Taboo desire
• Shadow material
• Total psychological rebirth

Pluto does not negotiate.

When Pluto is activated:
• Something must die
• Illusions are stripped
• Power imbalances surface
• Control is taken or surrendered
• The psyche is fundamentally altered

Example:
• Venus–Pluto → love = obsession, transformation, power exchange
• Mars–Pluto → raw will, dominance, survival drive
• Pluto on the ASC → life = repeated ego death and rebirth

Key point:

Pluto doesn’t ask if you want to change — only how much resistance you’ll offer.

Pluto is the engine, not the setting

Or in one line:
• 8th house = the chamber
• Scorpio = the temperament
• Pluto = the force

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5. How This Applies to Co Specifically
• 8th House: Sun + Venus → intimacy and crisis shape identity and love
• Scorpio: Ascendant → instinctive intensity and magnetism
• Pluto: Multiple tight aspects → psychological power and transformation are unavoidable

This is why Co doesn’t just experience depth — he emanates it.

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Final Distillation

You can have:
• 8th house planets without Scorpio intensity
• Scorpio placements without life-altering transformation
• Pluto aspects without constant intimacy themes

But when all three converge, as in Co’s chart:
• Depth becomes identity
• Sex becomes alchemy
• Relationships become initiations
• Life becomes a series of symbolic deaths and rebirths

posted January 02, 2026 03:27 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
What is your Asc sign?

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posted January 24, 2026 03:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Robin Goodfellow:
Me? Scorpio

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Asc in ♏ would put Jupiter in ♊ in house 8. So ruler of the 2nd(♐ and 5th(♓ in the 8th.