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wheels of cheese
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posted September 08, 2009 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheels of cheese     Edit/Delete Message
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I think you are all committing some of the most disturbing crimes I have ever seen, and I still love and forgive you.

Thanks, I'm stoked. I must have missed your ordination Reverend Patronising.

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katatonic
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posted September 08, 2009 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
To speak for those who have no voice... To defend the rights of those who cannot defend themselves... To spread the truth, no matter how unpopular or unsettling to convention... What could be a better definition of the behavior of a wise and evolved soul?

well, for starters, to model not preach...to realize that every time you correct a wrong you may create a new one...and to understand that every creature and situation has its place, admitting that one mind may not be able to figure it all out...?

and to answer my question - why do we have canine teeth?

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Valus
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posted September 08, 2009 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message

wheels, I'm entitled to my point of view. It doesnt make me a self-ordained anything, just because I have a point of view and express it. It frustrates me that you can only see bad things in my words and motives. I believe in what I'm doing, and so do many people who I deeply admire; from DaVinci to Tolstoy to Gandhi. I'm sorry you disagree, and I'm sorry you feel the need to keep turning this into a personal attack on me. I mean it when I say that I can see people committing horriffic crimes, and still see the innocence in them and love them. If you can only see self-righteousness, and no beauty, in that statement, I feel sorry for you. I really do. I hope that someday you can see what it is that I was trying to do here, and you can admire and love me for it. As you should. I am fighting a very good fight. I'm sorry you disagree with me, and I'm sorry your posts keep getting nastier towards me. I'm sorry you think I am insane for trying to defend innocent lives. Hope we can still be friends. Take care of yourself. ~ S


kat,
I'll answer the canine teeth question,
if you can tell me why we have empathy,
why we do not have claws, and why the
smell of blood doesnt make us hungry.

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Lyra
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posted September 08, 2009 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyra     Edit/Delete Message
I'd say, "You're a bunch of meathead thugs - and don't you dare to touch me, otherwise I will strike you with a lightning bolt out of thin air and paralyze you instantly. Get behind me, Satanists, down the hellhole from whence you came. You are not representative of the TRUE, cultured Germany of Bach, Beethoven etc...the rural, gentle, pastoral Germany of poets and musicians with romantic castles and cobblestoned towns. You're just a bunch of brush-cut, psychopathic Prussians who unfortunately indoctrinated the modern Germany with this irritating sense of order, clicking of heels and robotic obeying of commands. May you get what you deserve!!"
(As they judge, so are they judged. And the measure they give is the measure they get. Good always wins out in the end.)

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katatonic
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posted September 08, 2009 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
tried that on members of the british nazi party - er, sorry NATIONAL party - lyra?
it's true, good always wins...in the end. and usually evil is destroyed from within its ranks. but saying that to one of the national front might get your head crushed before you even finished...martyrs are effective, but is that your intention?

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MyVirgoMask
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posted September 08, 2009 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think you believe half the stuff you write, Valus.
I don't think you encourage debate, because you rabble rouse.
Sometimes I really admire the stuff you write, because it's interesting. That's when you're not going around trying to shove your so-called truth down anyone's throat in such a heavy-handed way.
But then you go and do THIS and it just makes you sound like someone who is apathetic and very privileged, and yet occasionally guilty thoughts for being white and privileged.

Hey, don't shoot the messenger. Just sayin'. We're all entitled to our opinions, as you've pointed out.

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Xodian
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posted September 08, 2009 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message
Guys... Watch yourselves; No race based accusitions allowed on this particular forum.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted September 08, 2009 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
so its ok to equate animals with persons of jewish descent, but not ok to say it sounds like something someone who is white and priveledged would say. this whole thread is glaringly biased.

can we not compare human suffering.... as in the most horrific slaughter of a race in history .....to slaughtering animals for food....seroiusly?

people living on the streets would be dam glad for a hot dog or even the bun..someone who has never known hunger or real suffering IS priveledged. and ought to be dammed glad they are that fortunate.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted September 08, 2009 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
this thread is offensive.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted September 08, 2009 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
so, my answer to this question is f-yes, i judge the nazi regime, if i had jwhops gun and a magic wand i would blow that part of evil history straight to hell. but i dam sure wouldn't compare it to people who eat meat are like hitler. ok. that is more than a stretch. i tried bumping other threads up here to not have to see this, but to no avail. carry on. and i never wanted to get mad again here and not with valus for sure , but this is over the line.

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Xodian
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posted September 08, 2009 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message
Cpn, I know how you feel and I can surely relate; Trust me on this one. I am just waiting for Randall's approval to have these threads shifted into Global Unity where the rules are lax and people don't have to hold back.

White IMO can constitute as a slur for any caucasian person and there have been quite a lot of vocal members against Mr. Valus' views who are Caucasian. Its true that Mr. Valus really doesn't knows what it is like to live independently (from what I know of his basic background anyway) but I personally don't want a whole race of people being judged for Valus' folly.

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Xodian
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posted September 08, 2009 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message
Moving thread to GU.

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