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Topic: Help - just don't understand
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lionseye***
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From: edmonton, ab. ca
Registered: May 2009
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posted October 11, 2009 05:30 AM
 
So sad..I've watched a couple of videos forwarded to me on facebook about particular cases of infant abuse, in both cases the infant was killed before their first birthday. Also, in both cases they had been abused physically, the girl sexually as well as physically, repeatedly. (Yeah - what?) They were both less than a year old when they died. My heart is breaking just thinking of these poor souls...Why would someone want to harm a defenceless baby? I don't get it? I need to know that something bigger is going on here, and these souls set out knowing their fate. I need to know that they returned to where they came from, ie Heaven, having done what they set out to do....And what of the perpetrators?....If that is ok...this dimension is just too sick for me sometimes.
I can't bare infants or children being harmed....I hate that about life on earth. Please tell me why this happens to babies? I'm still mopping up the tears after watching the video about the London boy, killed at 5 months old, then there was the New Mexico girl, killed at 6 months old.
I really can't deal with it. But I can't refuse to watch either. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted October 11, 2009 05:45 AM
These are questions that I think only lead to more questions. Is there any reason justifiable, no matter how spiritually minded or whatever? I can't see it right now. Or haven't found one to date. So, for me, it's best not to expose myself to these things. I don't understand them at all either. You'd like to think there's some higher purpose to this. The ulterior is that human beings can be crap. These things are just disturbing, inexcusable and heartbreaking. At worst, if they give people warning signs to prevent others from doing them or teach us compassion, that's something, but still, it's a high price.  IP: Logged |
lionseye***
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posted October 11, 2009 05:47 AM
I sent the link to everyone I know and as of yet, no reply. It's like.."oh well what can you do?" is the general attitude. Well, I guess you can't do a friggin thing. But you can care. And you can be aware. And you can be brave enough to intervene if you sense it's necessary. I guess that's good enough. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted October 11, 2009 05:48 AM
People probably aren't replying because: 1. they don't really want to see it and 2. they don't know what to say.IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted October 11, 2009 05:51 AM
I would like to think that if people saw it happening near them that general conscience would kick and in they'd do the right thing. At the end of the day you have to be able to live with yourself peacefully.That doesn't mean that people want to know about it generally. It's one of those that is really heartbreaking for most people, I think. You'd have to be pretty cold and emotionally remote to not feel something hearing these stories. IP: Logged |
lionseye***
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From: edmonton, ab. ca
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posted October 11, 2009 06:03 AM
Yeah. I guess, like my boyfriend said "if it's on the news, it's too late to help them"
All we can do is be aware..and that means tuning in to kids, babies, parents....being aware of everything, and not being too self-consumed.IP: Logged |
lionseye***
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posted October 11, 2009 06:05 AM
I mean, we can't expect the government to do this can we? We wouldn't want that reallyIP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted October 11, 2009 06:22 AM
I don't really see how the government can do it. I mean, impose serious penalties. But what do you do? It's inhumane to start with. I don't know how that affects the mentality of perpetrators. I can't see how the government can intervene. Government officials can't be present in every home. As a community we rely on the decency of each individual and ability to live kindly with each other.IP: Logged |
lionseye***
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posted October 11, 2009 06:35 AM
indeed.... IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted October 11, 2009 06:42 AM
It's sad lionseye. I wish it were different. It's hard to understand this world, not even sometimes, but frequently. At the end, I think, we just have to be the best WE can be, and contribute positively. It's idealistic, but if you don't have that hope, that's even worse.IP: Logged |
Lyra
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From: London, UK
Registered: May 2009
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posted October 11, 2009 04:21 PM
It's evil, and at the end of the day some people are born evil. They actually enjoy being that way - and far be it from me to execute God's will on earth (well, actually, I DO consider I have done that to certain unpleasant beings in my life sometimes) - but as far as I'm concerned,capital punishment should be brought back, or definetely made more widely available.
The challenge is getting enough supporters. I mean, if everyone paints the criminal as the victim (as is usual), it's not exactly going to get us very far! These people need to be ELIMINATED. IP: Logged |
blue moon
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posted October 13, 2009 02:55 AM
Of couse you don't get it, you're normal. Some things are beyond understanding, like this morning, I open the paper, a mother of 8 with one on the way is being investigated as part of a paedophile ring. quote:
She has a Winnie the Pooh-themed page on MySpace which features pictures of many of her children. The main image is of Winnie with the slogan ‘Where can I find the perfect hunnie for me?’
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/10/13/nurse ry-paedophiles-mum-of-8-tracy-lyons-charged-115875-21742783/ If I understood it I would either worry about myself, or congratulate myself on how well my psychiatry studies are progressing. IP: Logged |
koiflower
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From: Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 13, 2009 09:11 AM
This knowledge is too great to bear. It is the most evil of evils.How can it happen? This question is just too hard to answer. I can't understand how a parent will end their family over a relationship break-up....and this happens too frequently. There is a time when we learn something about the world around us and it's shattering. This has happened to you and your innocence has been lost. Your eyes have been opened to the ghastly horrors that can take place. There's a lot about the world that is so wrong. It's enough to drive a sane person crazy. That is why looking after your own mental health is so important. Remember that small acts of mercy can change a person's life. We cannot change the horrors that warfare brings into the lives of children, but we can focus on our immediate community to bring about change there. There is no easy answer to your hurts.....  IP: Logged |
lionseye***
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From: edmonton, ab. ca
Registered: May 2009
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posted October 17, 2009 03:14 AM
Thank you for even daring to wrap your head around this horror. I really can't bare it..except to think they came here with that purpose. To shine a spotlight on child abuse. How many infants and children live with abuse every day? If they don't die, we don't know about them. 
But still...beating and/or raping a newborn to 1 year old baby?????What the hell is wrong with you? You'd have to be one of Satan's minions on earth. Destroy the soul..yeah that's it.
And of course this happens to older kids too, which is horrible...girls are especially at risk, until they're about 30IP: Logged |
lionseye***
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From: edmonton, ab. ca
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posted October 17, 2009 03:46 AM
koiflower - the way you worded that was uncanny. It's identical to how I came to terms with it myself while sobbing alone in my room. It was a loss of innocence for me, and you can't go back once you know something. You can't un-know something. You can wish it untrue, but that doesn't make it untrue. You can fluff it off, but that doesn't make it not happen. You can't hide from the truth once you know. Harsh.IP: Logged |
teasel
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From: Ohio
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 07, 2009 03:44 PM
Just dropping in to post this link here:Talks Sunitha Krishnan's fight against sex slavery
http://www.ted.com/talks/sunitha_krishnan_tedindia.html About this talk Sunitha Krishnan has dedicated her life to rescuing women and children from sex slavery, a multimilion-dollar global market. In this courageous talk, she tells three powerful stories, as well as her own, and calls for a more humane approach to helping these young victims rebuild their lives. (I'm watching it now, and remembered your thread here. ) Ted Talks (on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TED )
http://www.prajwalaindia.com/home.html IP: Logged |
lionseye***
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From: edmonton, ab. ca
Registered: May 2009
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posted December 12, 2009 02:24 AM
Teasel. Thank You. Just to know that people like this are out there, people like this fine lady Sunitha...it helps restore the balance, and my faith in mankind. Thanks for that.
But the stories of those 3 little ones...you know, while I'm reading about them I'm hit in the gut momentarily, but I can handle it. And then, when I'm laying in bed later, trying to fall asleep, and my mind slips into an idle state...BAM...the reality of what they suffered slams down on my psyche and my heart like a Mack truck. I don't know how to not imagine it, I'm putting myself in their shoes and imagining the horrors they've been through. I just can't bare it. I can't. It makes my chest hurt. It makes me sob. Does that do any good? I dunno. Maybe. But it's all I can do for them at this point, so I hope so.
We need to evolve as a species because these kinds of trangressions are just unbearable and unacceptable. I don't want to paint all men with the same brush, but those men who DO do these things and frequent these types of establishments....they do a huge disservice to the karma of all men, and women too, and everyone who is aware of this in their immediate circle of influence but does nothing. IP: Logged |
koiflower
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From: Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 12, 2009 11:52 PM
lionseye - you're still suffering. It's hard being a part of this world where so many atrocities take place.{{{{{{hugs}}}}}} IP: Logged |
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