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Topic: Remember remember the 5th of November...
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Xodian Moderator Posts: 212 From: Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 05, 2009 09:46 AM
"The gunpowder treason and plot,: I know of no reason: Why the gunpowder treason: Should ever be forgot..."IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 439 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 05, 2009 09:58 AM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/ ------------------ Everyone is a teacher... Everyone is a student... Learning is eternal. }><}}(*>IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 2654 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 05, 2009 11:47 AM
HEY HEY HAPPY GUY FAWKES DAY.......build a bonfire tonight, take some s'mores and some catherine wheels and light the night...IP: Logged |
Spanky Butler Knowflake Posts: 291 From: In my lair stalking you on Google.... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 05, 2009 03:56 PM
Hey X man!I watched that V for Vendetta 2 days ago & the synchronism of that action didn't hit me until now. I can be so oblivious at times, lol. IP: Logged |
Coffee Knowflake Posts: 755 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 05, 2009 07:00 PM
This ignorant of Me? What do we celebrate? Some person attempting to blow up government buildings?Always seems silly. My brother bought into the whole thing and got some rubbish rockets...which make a noise and gets some sparks going. Nothing fun about toffee either. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 348 From: Ohio Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 06, 2009 03:27 PM
quote: This ignorant of Me? What do we celebrate? Some person attempting to blow up government buildings?
What with the throwing of the Guy onto the bonfire, I always thought it was a celebration of the fact that he didn't succeed; the few Americans I know who are familiar with the holiday, seem to think the opposite. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_Night "Guy Fawkes Night is an annual celebration on the evening of 5 November. It marks the downfall of the Gunpowder Plot of 5 November 1605, in which a number of Catholic conspirators, including Guy Fawkes, attempted to destroy the Houses of Parliament, in London, United Kingdom."
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 348 From: Ohio Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 06, 2009 03:33 PM
From the same link above:Traditional rhymes Several traditional rhymes have accompanied the festivities. Sometimes 'God Save the king' can be replaced by 'God save the Queen' depending on who is on the throne. Remember, remember the Fifth of November, The Gunpowder Treason and Plot, I know of no reason Why the Gunpowder Treason Should ever be forgot. Guy Fawkes, Guy Fawkes, t'was his intent To blow up the King and Parli'ment. Three-score barrels of powder below To prove old England's overthrow; By God's providence he was catch'd (or by God's mercy*) With a dark lantern and burning match. Holloa boys, holloa boys, let the bells ring. (Holla*) Holloa boys, holloa boys, God save the King! And what should we do with him? Burn him! these words are used in by Battle Bonfire Boyes who carry on the tradition of bonfire at their annual event in Sussex. They have the honour of the longest continuous Guy Fawkes bonfire celebrations in the world. The above traditional 'bonfire cry' is used at the society meeting immediately preceding the annual event, and prior to the lighting of the bonfire, and on other significant occasions. In more common use the above 'bonfire cry' is occasionally altered with the last three lines (after "burning match") being supplanted by the following; A traitor to the Crown by his action, No parli'ment mercy from any faction, His just end should'st be grim, What should we do? Burn him! Holler boys, holler boys, let the bells ring, Holler boys, holler boys, God save the King! IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 2654 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 06, 2009 06:49 PM
personally always thought it was just a good excuse for a bonfire and party on a dreary november evening...dangerous as all get out, i knew several kids who got hurt with the home-made explosives...but a few chestnuts on the fire and a block party, 's all good really. better than running around playing pranks and collecting candy!IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 1856 From: acousticgod@sbcglobal.net Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 06, 2009 07:02 PM
You'll have to remind me. I'll never remember the 5th of November.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 348 From: Ohio Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 06, 2009 07:42 PM
quote: personally always thought it was just a good excuse for a bonfire and party on a dreary november evening...dangerous as all get out, i knew several kids who got hurt with the home-made explosives...but a few chestnuts on the fire and a block party, 's all good really. better than running around playing pranks and collecting candy!
That's all it was to me when I was a kid. I was just wondering why it was suddenly seen as a successful revolutionary act. Apparently, our version of Halloween, given the begging for money for the guy. Why the sarcasm? quote: You'll have to remind me. I'll never remember the 5th of November.
Why would you remember in the first place? It isn't a holiday over here... I don't understand the attitude (well, I do if it's a snipe at me, considering your attitude where I'm concerned. If anyone else had posted the above, I doubt you would have responded at all). I was genuinely confused when I posted the above. Coffee is English, and had the same idea, so I'd wondered if I had it wrong all these years. Do you see a smirk or a wink on my post above? Any kind of teasing sentiment whatsoever? Several American friends were treating it like July 4th, yesterday, which led me to look it up. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 1856 From: acousticgod@sbcglobal.net Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 06, 2009 08:28 PM
No attitude here. I was just saying I wouldn't remember (for exactly the reason you're saying). I don't know why it was remembered in the first place.IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 2654 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 06, 2009 09:38 PM
well i'm out of the loop on the interpersonal history, but i thought it was a very cute joke, AG. carry on!IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 439 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 07, 2009 11:30 AM
teasel Thanks for the links and all! So many connect the saying with the movie "V For Vendetta", which is a movie I totally enjoyed.... however it really has nothing directly to do with the actual historical events.
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Musette Knowflake Posts: 71 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted November 07, 2009 07:09 PM
I went to a dance show last night and the company performed a Guy Fawkes segment. It was a little strange because it was more V for Vendetta than historical truth. Sometimes pop culture overtakes history.IP: Logged |
koiflower Knowflake Posts: 1095 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 20, 2009 06:06 PM
cute katatonic We used to celebrate in our backyard as kids. It was fun. We couldn't wait till it got dark, then we'd all stand on the porch while dad lit the crackers and other fireworks. Then we'd wave our sparklers till they fizzled out and then it would be over for another year. IP: Logged |
charmainec Moderator Posts: 165 From: on the other side of the rainbow Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 07, 2009 04:11 AM
When we were kids its was fun to celebrate ( fireworks and all that)In the past few years it's turned into a day where the levels of animal abuse is increasing.I doubt it will ever be the same like it was before.Firecrackers and firework displays are only allowed in designated areas now. IP: Logged |