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Topic: Lip-syncing
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PeaceAngel
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posted November 06, 2009 01:28 AM
 
There's a big thing in the news here at the moment about concert tickets displaying if a concert is completely live or containing any lip-syncing.I'm on the fence with this one. I mean, if I'm going to see Coldplay, I don't expect lip-syncing but if I go to see Britney Spears, with all the dancing she does, not only am I going to expect it, but not mind it that much either, because of the sheer physicality in her performance. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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Registered: May 2009
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posted November 06, 2009 01:39 AM
See, this is why I prefer small venues for music... that way there's no confusion!
I don't like huge concerts... not unless I'm right there upfront (which can be expensive!!).
And I totally agree with you about performers who dance around.. I wouldn't NOT expect them to lip sync if they're running around. It kind of sucks, but it's ok...kind of expected. IP: Logged |
Unmoved
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posted November 06, 2009 02:40 AM
They can specify, but you can always tell when lip-syncing is involved. The performance is usually formal and stilted in a sense that the artist doesn't improvise or interact much with the audience. It's usually this routine, followed by another, and so on, with weird timing (silences that are sometimes longer then necessary) when compared with audience reaction. This is then followed by an abrupt and short "Thank you" in the end and lights then go off. Show is over. Good luck if you want an encore. When it's live, you will hear the artist speak to the audience here and there, interacting and just engaging more. You'll hear them breathe, and make human noises, or even misjudge the distance of mic and mouth here and there to make some sounds loud and some softer than they should. So, it makes no difference whether they specify, if it is so obvious.For technical, unavoidable circumstances, lip-syncing is okay. What I don't understand is when an Ashley Simpson, who does squat physically (dance, play an instrument), decides to lip-sync. If you're going to be panting throughout the show because your routine involves "gymnastics" like Brit and Madge, or if you're at a huge outdoor arena (even then it's iffy), then sure... go ahead and lip-sync and let us know you are. Ashley was lip-syncing on Saturday Night Live, for crying out loud, in an INDOOR arena (studio) where acoustics are pretty constant and controlled with no wind or other types of interference. Having said that, I know artists who, even in huge (outdoor) arenas, don't lip-sync. I know I went off on a tangent here...  IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted November 06, 2009 02:46 AM
No apology needed for tangents. They're usually expected.  Yes, good point about Ashlee Simpson. Makes me think of the tape that went around a few years ago of Enrique Iglesias. One of the sound crew recorded his real singing while he was lip-syncing and it was released. I just take it that some of the studio work is considerably polished, which makes it hard for the artist to perform live. Sometimes they just have an off day too - sore throat or whatever. Some people are super talented. Sting is one that can bounce around on stage and somehow not get out of breath, but I believe he's a yoga devotee from way back. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted November 06, 2009 02:54 AM
MVMWith kids, it really has been a long time since I've been to a live show, but, yes, small, intimate atmosphere. Usually they're an accoustic set. Though, I always enjoyed the jazz clubs. You're not necessarily getting a big name, but you're getting some big talent and great, great music. I remember years ago we were packed in this club and had literally removed the ceiling panels, holding onto the ceiling frame, standing on chairs, and other peoples' shoulders. The show was amazing. The music was out of this world. I've seen some big name artists, but this one stands out above some of those. No lip-syncing there. The only artist that I've seen live that I believe lip-synced, and only a small portion in some very big dance routines, was Michael Jackson. IP: Logged |
Unmoved
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posted November 06, 2009 03:08 AM
true, there is no excuse for lip-syncing when you consider people like Sting. Think of all the rock bands whose lead singers are always bouncing all over the stage, but still singing. I think of Green Day's front man and all front men who play guitar while singing, while jumping around, who don't lip-sync.With Enrique...  (doing a mini Milli Vanilli on us...gotta love the alliteration there) well... If he was being dishonest from studio work, then he should have expected that when it comes to live stuff, it was going to be a challenge. But, his dishonesty worked for him because look at where he is today... I guess he should have told his fans that he was lip syncing, although I don't think his fans would care. Yes, artists have off days all the time. That's where the diva behavior comes into play because half the time, the artist is resting the voice, asking for cod-liver oil or honey, lemon and warm water to sooth voice; where a singer avoids smoke ridden places etc... My point is: one has to become so anal to make those off days less, and when those off days occur, they still don't lip sync, instead the show is canceled and postponed. That's why when artists are on tour, they allocate more days than necessary to each region in case of mishaps (and publicity) to give them days to postpone the show to in case the voice disappears. In Enrique's case, I think the voice was gone before the tour was even planned. Also, poor Enrique could have lost his voice for a while but maybe the record label execs forced him to lip sync instead of allowing him to recover. There's that. He did have a very big record deal, so pressure was high! Now I feel sorry for the guy if that was the case.  IP: Logged | |
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