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posted November 24, 2009 11:39 AM         

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Tell me everything about your Venus. Starting... NOW!

BOTH of my two long term loves (excluding married man) had this placement, and those relationships were sincerely profound. However, I don't think I've met a Venus in Sag since! I have Venus conjunct Jupiter in the 9th, but I don't know if that's "the same" as Venus IN Sag.

So please, do tell me how Venus in Sag plays out for you.

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posted November 24, 2009 11:53 AM         

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Hey Meta! I have Venus conjunct Neptune in Sag (like AG does). Mine's in the 4th, not sure where his is.

I find it hard to separate Venus from Neptune (love, higher love) and can never work out whether I'm being an idiot for love or not (probably).

Venus on its own though... I think I really really enjoy people who take me out and show me things through their eyes (my Sag Venus opposes Gemini moon which could have something to do with it but I think it's the Venus). Show me everything. Even if it's just a book, I want to "travel" through love.

Sometimes I badly need to do things on my own, but I will come back. I like the trust implied in it.

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posted November 24, 2009 12:05 PM         

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Wheels!

Thanks for responding. I want to address what you said about "needing to do things on my own".

From recalling everyone- not just my exes- who has Venus in Sag, I don't remember anyone WANTING freedom. In fact, everyone I know personally with this placement is/was very possessive of me. They wanted to be with me morning, noon and night. So when I read how Venus in Sag needs freedom and is very light-hearted it made no sense?

In love, you say that you are dreamy and romantic and want adventure, right? But how do YOU act in love? How do you show interest, how do you act in a relationship?

Does your Venus aspect anything besides Nep?

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posted November 24, 2009 12:11 PM         

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How do I act? I am really cagey if I like someone. They might never know it. And I if I really believe it's love I let it unfold, I never orchestrate a meeting or anything, this could mean getting together takes a while. I'm all like "I'm so free, look how interesting I am and how uninterested I appear to be in you". There is something quite watchful in my behaviour which could be construed as fakery. It's not, it's self-defence. Look at me looking at you looking at me. But I really need to suss it out first.

Oh I'm as possessive as hell once I love someone. If they want to be on their own I might freak if I really love them. But typical Sag isn't it!! Demanding honesty and freedom for themselves.

I have so many aspects coming off this conjunction it's unreal. I can't pick them apart.

Be back tomorrow x

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posted November 24, 2009 12:15 PM         

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I have three planets in Sag in the 7th.

I can be quite Sagittarian in love. Sags are known for their joviality alongside their soulful depth. I am quite silly in love, sometimes in a clever way as Mercury is my chart ruler. I am also a great listener, though, and quite supportive and non-judgmental as you find most Sag Suns to be normally. I will make the caveat that Sags do come off as judgmental sometimes, and I suffer from that as well in love, but I truly mean nothing by it. It's that Sagittarian honesty. I am quite loyal to the one I'm with.

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posted November 24, 2009 12:25 PM         

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AG,

What are you attracted to in a partner? Physically, mentally, spiritually?

I remember that when I met my two fellows I wasn't intially attracted to them physically. Neither were my "type". But their personalities intrigued me, and they became physically attractive to me that way.

You say that you're loyal and silly- do you have any pet peeves? Like, you can't stand for a partner who does this, or that? Or are you an open book?

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posted November 24, 2009 12:34 PM         

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I have Venus in Sag. My Sun is there too but the two are about 11 degrees apart.

Well, I am definitely attracted to foreign man.
Verbal stimulation is something that I constantly crave and if you want to appeal to me, you have to be a smooth talker.
I am also surprisingly possessive. Can't say it's something I'm comfortable with.

Open book? Hmm. I give the impression of an open book. But I also have Neptune conj. Sun. Staying true to myself is a difficult task since there are way too many veils to be lifted. I am actually unintentionally deceptive.

I am loyal to my ideal. When you fall from grace, I will still be loyal to you but that probably has to do with my Saturn aspects.

What I'm attracted to:
WARMTH! Depth. Verbal dexterity. Sensitivity. He has to be both a sage and a child.

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posted November 24, 2009 12:57 PM         

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Physically:
I like natural beauties --a woman that can look good without makeup. If you're overweight, you've got to carry it well like a Sag would. No getting frumpy looking.

Mentally:
I like a sharp, open mind. Preferably one that can keep up. Having an open mind doesn't mean you can't have a fixed opinion. It just means that you're willing to entertain other ideas.

Spiritually:
I don't really have any litmus here. I think I prefer a person to be open-minded in this realm, too.

Pet Peeves:
You really have to be yourself in the end, so my pet peeves wouldn't really matter, and that's really kind of the way it is in a relationship. There might be little annoying things, but if I'm into you I'm not likely to complain to you about little annoyances.

I'm definitely not an open book. Sun in the 8th. I like to reveal myself slowly over time.

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posted November 24, 2009 01:28 PM         

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Hmm... possessiveness seems to be a theme here?

AG,

In love, do you have any bad habits- i.e. possessiveness? Jealousy?

If your have Sun in 8th I would assume these things play out. Does that conflict with you Venus in Sag (need for independence)?

Yin,

When you say foreign, do you mean someone from another country, or just someone who is completely different from you? Someone who can expose you to new things?

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posted November 24, 2009 08:46 PM         

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I havn't read through the other posts yet ... will first jot down my first thoughts and then see what others had to say ... I've decided to look up the Sabian Symbol for my Venus placement, which is 3 Sag. For now I won't go into the millions of other stuff I have hanging around in that section of my chart ... just Venus Sag 3 in the eight. So the Sabian symbol for that is Two Men Playing Chess and I find quite apt. I would like very much to have a romantic partner that would engage me in some activity in which our abilities are equal and which is enjoyable and which is sort of intellectual but not too serious. I usually go for brains rather than looks, and I'm attracted to people that stimulate me on a mental level more than any other. If I've found guys attractive and then discovered I couldn't converse with them, the attraction instantly faded. Whereas someone could look like a hunchback with a Picasso face and if I'm intrigued by his mind I'd want to have a relationship with him. Usually I've fallen in love with guys who don't love me back, or who don't even know me, and had relationships with people who were more like freinds or who loved me more than I loved them. If ever a lover tried to control me in any way I totally threw a horse fit: kicking and bucking like a rodeo horse.

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posted November 24, 2009 08:48 PM         

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Oops, nearly forgot ... the most important thing in relationships for me is that I should be able to be absolutely honest. I also need my partner to be honest about his feelings and thoughts and motivations and goals ... You know the phrase "Penny for your thoughts?" If I don't like someone I don't care what they're thinking but if I'm in love with someone I absolutely have to know what they're thinking about. It would be best if they had a totally transparent mind where I could just read the exact truth all the time.

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posted November 24, 2009 08:59 PM         

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I have Lilith conjunct Venus exactly, also 3 Sag, and the following really does apply to me:
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She (Lilith) was considered the first wife of Adam, his wild and instinctual consort who animated his sexual longings and claimed equality with him, “because we were created from the same earth? When he wanted to dominate her, she left him and chose loneliness and exile rather than subjugation.
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posted November 24, 2009 09:06 PM         

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OK wait I see there are different Liliths ... I have Black Moon conjunct Venus in Sag in the 8th ... so I don't know if the above, which I believe applies to the asteroid, equally applies here? But I know for a fact I HATE it if partners try to control me and equality in a relationship is something I can't do without. I'd never have a relationship with someone I consider to be either superior or inferior to me (intellectually), because in the first case I'd totally enter into competition with them and in the second case I wouldn't be able to explain myself to them, which as I've said is real important to me.

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posted November 24, 2009 10:33 PM         

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In love, do you have any bad habits- i.e. possessiveness? Jealousy?

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Bad habits? Me? How dare you!

I'm pretty level-headed. I am kind of possessive, and can definitely be jealous, but I don't consider either to be bad habits, or states of normalcy. I haven't dealt with issues related to those feelings since High School. As an adult, there hasn't usually been an issue around those kinds of feelings.

Here's what mitigates the passion that others might devote towards jealousy and possessiveness:

Sun in Capricorn
Mercury, Venus, and Neptune in Sag
Gemini Rising
Saturn in the 1st

All of these things combine for a good measure of detachment generally.

If a woman I was with were to start trying to access my possessiveness and jealousy, it would be a problem. I'd tolerate it, and try to understand it for awhile. If it persisted, though, I would consider it some sort of game-playing, and would probably ditch her. I think for the most part I wouldn't be attracted to that sort of woman in the first place, because I like genuine people.

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posted November 25, 2009 06:50 AM         

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I can agree with at least one thing everyone has said. I have sun/venus in Sag in the 8th.

Hmm, okay, first of all, the type of guy that I "fantasize" about in my head, is never the guy I end up with. My hormones think of long haired, tatooed rocker guys, but thats not what I end up with. Although, I HAVE in the past, and was sorely dissapointed that the fantasy did not match up with reality. Eye candy is great, but if he opens his mouth and "duh" comes out, or he is in the mirror longer than me, I'm gonna lose interest QUICK.
There has to be some common factor to keep me around. MOST often it has been humour. I love a funny man, and you could be less than average looking, but if you keep me laughing, I will probably keep you around, and in my eyes, you will become Brad Pitt.
There has to be some sense of adventure in the person as well. He doesn't have to want to scale moutains or jump out of planes, but NO couch potatoes. I'm good with just switching it up. Some nights at home, some hanging out with friends. Just no routine,, ugg, that is the worst!
Jealous and possesive, ehh, I've had my moments in this life, but that has never really been my issue. I don't like the way that makes me doubt myself, and I've seen the way others relationships have deteriorated because of that.
You would never doubt if I want to be with you or not. I love whole-heartedly. I am there for you 24/7, until you let me down one time too many. I would probably still be there even after that, but it would cause a slow erosion that eventually would have me just sort of drifting away from you.

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posted November 25, 2009 08:24 AM         

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meta_4, when I say foreign I mean people from another country, who would inevitably introduce me to new ideas even if they didn't mean to.

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