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Author Topic:   A SUGGESTION TO GODZALIANS & Randall
LEXX
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posted May 05, 2010 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
SUGGESTION!
DUE TO GODZALA'S POPULARITY AMONGST SOME FOLKS HERE.....
PERHAPS FOLKS MIGHT WANT TO ASK RANDALL TO START A NEW FORUM
SPECIFICALLY FOR
GODZALA
AND OTHER SUCH "HUMOUR" THREADS!

Then like the GUs, folks would know that if and when they enter there,
that there may be the risk of being offended or whatever.

After all, humour and comedy are not in a one style fits all folks' tastes category.

That would let LLC2 be for other diverse, general, random topics.

It just seems to me to be a logical move

which should have the effect of pleasing everyone!

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katatonic
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posted May 05, 2010 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
LEXX that is a wonderful idea. i only wish you had been here when this suggestion was needed. though i never did figure out why people who didn't like godzala couldn't leave the threads alone, since they were pretty clearly marked.

not sure godzala has enough will-to-live left to make it happen/work?

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posted May 05, 2010 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Kat's last statement...but also, this was the appropriate forum for Godzala as this is the forum for whatever nonsense and silliness you can dream up.

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LEXX
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posted May 05, 2010 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you.
As to this:
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though i never did figure out why people who didn't like godzala couldn't leave the threads alone, since they were pretty clearly marked.
How could one know if they did not at least look?
I did, and saw it was not my general cup of tea, even though some was fun/funny to me.
I did/do not have time to play there.
Also, until I was private messaged by someone who wanted me to go look, because they were being picked on, (which, they were, sadly) I stayed out of the Godzala threads. I checked on said claims of harassment and was surprised and saddened to find that I too was the butt of some the ridicule. Then made fun of more and a heartfelt thread to me was hijacked to boot. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/010570.html
I have pretty much avoided those threads with rare exception.
I do not care if folks break the rules there, because it is Randall's site and if it is fine with him....then it is OK by me.
I only took offense when things seemed to be unkind towards any persons.

AG....

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I agree with Kat's last statement...but also, this was the appropriate forum for Godzala as this is the forum for whatever nonsense and silliness you can dream up.

I agree, when it was a few threads, it was the appropriate forum.
However it does not take a genius to see very clearly that the Godzala threads did appear to be rather prolific and so it just seems logical to give them their own forum.
I mean...if ANY KIND OF TOPIC were to become so pervasive,
as to have soooo many threads devoted to it,
well it should have its own forum,
or else it appears to be rather spammish
or monopolizing of a forum not dedicated exclusively to it.
So when it took on a CLONING LIFE of its own, it just makes sense it really could benefit all if it had its own forum.
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posted May 05, 2010 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Hey!
Just trying to find a logical easy way for ALL HERE TO HAVE THEIR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO!

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katatonic
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posted May 05, 2010 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
well. it is a gallant thing to do and a valiant try. perhaps it would work

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LEXX
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posted May 05, 2010 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
katatonic
I happen to love Aussie humour!
I e-mail with a few fellows who most of the time can totally crack me up!

Oh, and it can get quite crude!
But I would not post most of it at LL with rare exception.
There is a time and place and threads have been closed and even deleted in the past that were not as wild as some of the Godzala ones in some ways. LOL! But most got rather wild!
LOL! I had even been naughty on those!
And lambasted fairly heavily for doing so to boot!
Actually the Godzala Zones are usually very VANILLA by comparison!
(AG was part of the having "fun" group, so he should remember that I am not a party pooping prude!)
So I am not without sympathies for folks wanting to have "fun".
It has appeared to me that things have become more lax and more "naughtiness" is being allowed...not censorship as it was a few years ago.
Like I said, I rarely stepped into the Godzala Zones, so just as you did not see any unkindness...
>>>>Edited to add example/link....
(it was partially here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/010570.html)<<<<<<<<<<
I did not see anyone being censored.
As to Valus...I honestly do not have an answer there, except to again say...just have all here follow the posted rules.

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katatonic
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posted May 05, 2010 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i did, and saw it was not my general cup of tea, even though some was fun/funny to me.
I did/do not have time to play there.

my point precisely this is how i generally expect a grownup to react...and having been asked not to participate in someone's threads and found it impossible to communicate with him so he gets what i am trying to say, i will honour that request.

i will NOT ask the "grownups" to limit him to one thread at a time, or to keep the limit to a certain size. i don't need policing or protecting. not because i don't have feelings but because i consider them MY business.

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SunChild
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posted May 05, 2010 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
Cool Lexx! I would totally vote for a new forum. Just for humor in all its shapes and forms ~ most boards have them, because they become so overwhelmingly popular that they have a good chance of taking over.

YES!

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LEXX
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posted May 05, 2010 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
SunChild
I have noticed that at other forum sites too!
It just seems to be the logical way to organize it!
It would be nice to have a forum here at LL
that is totally devoted to humor!
That way too, once folks get used to the different types of humor enjoyed by any individual, they will know from a glance in the future if they want to look
or not!

PS. Even I would post humor that appeals to me if there were such a forum!
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Musette
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posted May 05, 2010 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Musette     Edit/Delete Message
There are many posts in LLC2 that don't really "belong" here as there are already forums for them: poetry and stories, health news, occasional astrology blurbs, etc. Poetry and fictional things are pretty prevalent in LLC2 for whatever reason. I don't understand the importance of quarantining anything potentially humorous while other things that do have a separate forum keep being posted here. Besides, 99% of Godzala was quelled months ago and a lot of the members left. It's limited to one thread. It's not very hard to avoid one thread!

LEXX, you know I like you and I enjoy your posts - and if you don't then now you do! And I get that you want to be fair and I do appreciate that (that's why I thought you would be a good moderator for here). I just honestly don't understand why the already neutered Godzala stuff is suddenly being subjected to scrutiny if it isn't currently overtaking LLC2 or causing problems.

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SunChild
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posted May 05, 2010 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
Where's the common sense? Do we have to really get pedantic now? I think if something becomes out of balance (ie. popular) and brings people together it deserves its own home.

Why do people create separate forum for a particular subject in the first place? The requirements would need popularity and the fact that it is crowding another forum. It's practical and more appealing.

Lexx

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posted May 05, 2010 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Musette
quote:
LEXX, you know I like you and I enjoy your posts - and if you don't then now you do! And I get that you want to be fair and I do appreciate that (that's why I thought you would be a good moderator for here).
Wow! Thank you!
Do I know you? So many user name changes I lose track of who is who.
quote:
I just honestly don't understand why the already neutered Godzala stuff is suddenly being subjected to scrutiny when a real problem is being ignored. If there were suddenly a lot of Godzala threads cropping up, or if Godzala were a source of fighting or people being mean to each other, then it would be understandable. I've never posted in the Godzala thread but I did just read through the last page or two of it and it didn't seem out of line... Some people like the humor and some don't and that's all I saw. I didn't see any ridicule, but maybe that was far back or in a previous Godzala thread?
I am not entirely sure what is going on, but giving it a dedicated forum just seemed like a move that could satisfy all people here. As to ridicule...yes, in the past not sure now which version, there have been many.

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posted May 05, 2010 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
SunChild

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posted May 05, 2010 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Musette     Edit/Delete Message
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Do I know you? So many user name changes I lose track of who is who.

My username has been Musette since I joined almost a year ago. I haven't changed it yet, but a year is a long time and I may get tired of it!

I didn't know that Godzala threads contained posts that ridiculed board members. That's a shame. Thanks for answering my post.

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posted May 05, 2010 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Musette
Thank you for explaining!
So many members have come and gone in just the little over 5 years I have been here.
So many new members now, and name changes of old members.
I do not post as much as I used to post.
I also hang out mostly in Lexigram Magic.
As to being ridiculed, only a few were.
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To all...
I am not sure but some/most Godzala threads were lost during the crash?

Edited to add link/example of ridicule...
My error, was not on the Godzala thread completely.... http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/010570.html
Just want folks to understand some back story here.
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posted May 06, 2010 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with musette.

lexx, I see you want to be fair but if we stigmatize godzala on the account of number of threads started or on their "excluding" nature, then valus needs his forum too. besides, there is already a forum for poetry.

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posted May 06, 2010 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
Good suggestion LEXX - Godzala has a flavour that takes time to acquire for some.

I wouldn't say Godzala's intention was to ridicule other folk. But what I do know was that one particular attack shocked some people and they communicated that shock with a flippant discussion to cope with that sudden burst.

When there was an 'attack' of sorts (which did happen a couple of times), sensitive Knowflakes communicated their anxiety openly.

Godzala was a forum to come together with a humour that was uplifting. All the worries of the world were lost in a Godzala thread. It had mental health benefits and attracted those who understood the power of communal laughter.

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posted May 06, 2010 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i think giving valus his own forum is a great idea too. that way he can truly be a big fish in his own small pond and the rest of us don't have to watch him peppering LLC2 with passive agressive threads aimed at humiliating those who he perceives as having attacked him.

IN FACT MAYBE WE SHOULD GIVE EVERYBODY THEIR OWN FORUM JUST TO BE FAIR AND MAKE SURE NO ONE GETS THEIR FEELINGS HURT!

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posted May 06, 2010 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
lol Katatonic. Yes, everyone has to have their OWN FORUM

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posted May 06, 2010 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
we do ...it is just in the fifth dimension.

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LEXX
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posted May 06, 2010 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
OK....now...so my suggestion is being made fun of?

Having a humor/comedy forum still makes sense to me no matter who thinks it is a stupid idea.
Other sites do it!

I mean, we have forums for specific topics or related ones here...so why not a comedy/humor forum.

Yin wondered why I had not suggested it before when Randall wanted another forum.
Well, I was concerned about it not being considered seriously and p!ssing some folks off.

As to Valus having a Valus forum...
THAT IS STUPID!
Same for any person having their own forum!
PEOPLE ARE NOT TOPICS!

KTAA IS LIKE EACH PERSON HAVING THEIR OWN MINI FORUM.

And a comedy/humour forum would be great to have!
I have posted humour threads before and oddly no one commented.
Perhaps my posts would have been noticed and replied to at a forum devoted exclusively to humour!

Oh well, does not matter if Randall thinks it is a stupid idea too.

Thanks to those who agree
and sorry I offended others with my well meant suggestion.

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posted May 06, 2010 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
i was not, nor have i ever.... made fun of you lexx. never have. never will.

i think it was only said because it seems more like valus land than linda land anymore.

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posted May 06, 2010 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message
No dear one. Kat was attempting to point out that people get tired of Valus being passive aggressive and verbally abusive at those who disagree with him.

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posted May 06, 2010 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
LEXX, I wasn't making fun btw, just to be clear. I agree with your suggestion!
I was laughing at Katatonic's post - I believe Absinthe explained it all well actually.

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