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katatonic
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posted May 16, 2010 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
anyone here come across lester levenson - or his work? it is being sold as the "release technique" now, not particularly cheap either...but lester himself never charged anyone and learned to "go free" all by himself when threatened with a life chained to his bed due to heart trouble...??

i find him fascinating and would love to study his stuff but it seems those who took over where he left off have pretty much sewed up all the writings and info to be given only to those who can pay...

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Spanky Butler
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posted May 16, 2010 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Kat.

I've never heard of this guy before but it sounds like interesting stuff.


I googled around & found this site which offers a few freebies.

http://www.goingfree.org/

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posted May 16, 2010 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Musette     Edit/Delete Message
He's the founder of the Sedona Method, which costs a minimum of $300 to begin training. I haven't done it, and I'm not sure I will. But I am very interested. I'm ordering his books The Ultimate Truth and No Attachments, No Aversions (autobiography) from Amazon. They are two of the few books authored solely by Levensen, so they are going to be the closest to his original work. You can buy both new from Amazon for $13 each. Your library may have copies for free, too.

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posted May 16, 2010 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
thanks guys! i also found some stuff on youtube, of him talking...i know he inspired the sedona method but i think actually hale dwoskin is the program designer...lester was a bit more off the cuff and apparently never charged for his teaching, but both dwoskin and larry crane (the release technique, also endorsed by LL) charge plenty and then string you along with more and more levels like a lot of "consciousness coaches". which is fine for people with some money, even steady wages, but i generally have exactly as much as i need and the money for these has never arrived!! and i have such a hard time with people who "teach" unlimited abundance but make THEIR money from people who haven't yet learned it...

so far no success with libraries though!

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posted May 16, 2010 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Musette     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for clarifying on the Sedona stuff. I knew that other guys got involved somehow in Levensen's work and they now offer expensive trainings. I could pay $300, but there's something off to me about charging such a high amount. Not only are you right that most people "in need" wouldn't have their "abundance flow" set up yet in order to pay big money to learn abundance, but I also don't understand why they can't just charge a reasonable amount. Surely they can make money off books and CDs that are priced normally because if the method is valid then bringing the price down to be accessible would help the work spread to more people, which would in turn bring them more sales and more recommendations.

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posted May 16, 2010 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
Very true Musette.


Greed is the name of the game, as per usual...

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posted May 17, 2010 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
Hey kitty kat,

guess what I found?


http://www.scribd.com/full/1475201?access_key=key-e2vpc3fdtkdo9ct3g0z

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katatonic
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posted May 17, 2010 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
thanky spanks...there actually ARE some books on the sedona method, which i came across awhile ago...in fact THEY can be found in some libraries.

i am currently more interested in finding the actual words of lester, or someone who internalized his teachings enough to teach themselves, without charging - though i have had funny experiences with people who charge more than i can afford in the past...ie deciding i would just have to stump up only to have the check/card payment bounce, or in one instance having to implement a money-back guarantee (and i give them that they were very honest and didn't make a peep to convince me otherwise).

i think i basically understand his stuff and i appreciate very much that HE at least did not insist that you had to learn from him and only him, but taught whoever sought him out...in fact youtube has several clips and at least one has him saying, all you need is to be willing to sit down and let go of your "stuff"...

i actually don't think the sedona method people are terribly greedy. after all it costs money to pay their rent and food bills too...it's just that the essence of lester's teaching as i have understood it is that you don't need to go out and charge people money to get your own if you have really gone "free"...so how are people who use the method to make their living in a position to teach it if they need to charge? am i being really obtuse here or is it too much to ask that a master act like a master?

this field seems also very prone to transparent marketing ploys like offering a course "to you" for ONLY , say, $300 though the "regular" price is much more, or to throw in "thousands of dollars worth of free bonuses" if you pay their outrageous fee... sorry but pitches like this just send me running in the opposite direction, don't they GET that, or are there so many ingenues out there that the rest of us don't matter?

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katatonic
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posted June 05, 2010 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.oneness4all.com/Lester.pdf

this is lesters autobiography "no attachments no aversions" - as a free download. more later..

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Musette
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posted June 07, 2010 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Musette     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for posting the free download, kat!

And I don't think you are too obtuse at all to think that people should act in accordance to the system they are representing.

I never trust any marketing ploy of "It's NORMALLY X, but for a LIMITED TIME ONLY, we'll sell it ONLY TO YOU for y, but that's a special extended ONLY TO YOU for IF you buy now! PLUS you get an ABSURD AMOUNT OF STUFF at NO additional cost!" If they are marking up their product enough to discount it by such a large amount, then they aren't pricing fairly to being with. I went to a gemstone/jewelery expo over the weekend and many of the vendors had a "40% off for trade show only" prices on their items. A lot of people thought they were getting a great deal, but I didn't buy from any of those booths because I know they can't really get away with charging 40% more retail, they were just over-marking in order to offer a "big discount." I met a woman who was giving a 10% trade show discount and I bought all my materials from her because she hadn't inflated her prices enough to be able to cut 40% off.

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katatonic
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posted June 08, 2010 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
well i suggest you go there quickly. lester is dead and wouldn't care anyway, but there are others on there who will do their best to have any "pirate" sites wiped offline to protect their profits and "rights"...

his book is charming. apparently in later years he decided it was better - for results and the students - to charge for his courses. as it makes most people value something more if they have to pay for it. but he also did a lot of trades and freebies. and he basically walked his talk, which is the first criteria to get my respect...

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Musette
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posted June 08, 2010 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Musette     Edit/Delete Message
I saved it already because it occurred to me that it might get taken down soon!

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