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posted July 05, 2010 11:56 PM         

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I'd say the cling-ons are meant to bring lessons to the masters. It's always that balance of ego and humility and part of the challenge for masters would be challenging their spiritual ideals by means of tangible lessons. It's easy to idealise and to live in that fantasy but living it is a whole other thing, especially in a world that challenges so much of idealism.

I guess the true legacy of a master is the humnility and understanding that it's not about them, but they are simply the conduit of the messages and lessons. Their ego is removed from it and they serve something higher.

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posted July 06, 2010 03:45 AM         

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All explanations for why people like Osho write so well, teach so well and then get messed up near their end or become elitist, can be found by understand the mechanism of Kundalini Energy.
Initially, they control it well, it gives them inspiration. They attain new insights as Kundalini activates their Pineal Gland and so on.
But if they have not worked off all their "Causal Body" Karmas, and then accept adulation, their Kundalini Energy will hyperactivicate their Ego, and they ultimately go insane or get "possessed" by a Lower Astral Entity after an Auric breakdown [Marshal Applewhite, David Koresh etc]

Those who do not attempt Kundalini Yoga, and raise their Kundalini unconsciously through good thoughts, they will have a much bigger impact. Give me Ralph Waldo Emerson anyday.

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posted July 06, 2010 10:30 AM         

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PA, yes, they could be there for lessons to the Master, but if the Master is trying to teach the opposite and they are not getting it, the lesson could ultimately just be up to them to maybe someday get or not. The enlightened one can only do so much until he just accepts and loves them and hopes they learn.

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posted July 06, 2010 10:32 AM         

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Those who do not attempt Kundalini Yoga, and raise their Kundalini unconsciously through good thoughts, they will have a much bigger impact. Give me Ralph Waldo Emerson anyday.

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Nice, Iq. Same here. Give me the real down to earth human being.

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posted July 06, 2010 10:37 AM         

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Also I think a lot of these gurus who have a following were never actually looking or planning to have one, or it's not coming from an ego based place, but it's that they genuinely wanted to help people and accepted their call to start a "family" of likeminds to love and learn together. So, they took the opportunity to spread a message to people that thirsted for it and resonated with theirs. Maybe they simply cared enough to want to help and decided to provide a space for it. It might not really about them wanting or needing a group of people attached to them, but they could see the potential for good that something like this might create? If that makes sense.

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posted July 06, 2010 10:41 AM         

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I know back in the 60's alot of the eastern gurus were begged by groups of people to come over here and spread their message. Imagine how different things would be if they hadnt if they declined the offer? I also know many of them were very reluctant to do so. But i think the best ones did so out of love for humanity and they meant well.

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posted July 06, 2010 10:49 AM         

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better than staying up in a cave in the Himalayas for twenty more years. Even gurus have to get out and live a little every once in awhile. lol

How nice that many of them have decided to share what theyve gleened after many years of intense study, dedication, and meditation!

..can't practice Mauna forever!!

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posted July 07, 2010 04:43 AM         

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The enlightened one can only do so much until he just accepts and loves them and hopes they learn.

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I guess that's part of being a master - having that patience and acceptance that everyone's where they're at and where they need to be for whatever reasons.

I'm not that patient. I need to understand why people do things. I'm working on it though, getting better. I'd be a bad master. The gods should never let me become an accidental master. We'd be royally screwed.

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