posted November 17, 2010 11:38 PM         

Conflict is a natural state of life, within ourselves and with each other... to expect otherwise (especially on a public forum) is foolish.

I think in the true spirit of Linda Goodman (who was an Aries) healthy argument and debate should be just "understood". Not encouraged, not judged, just "understood".

This is life, with all the good and the bad. So many times, I hear people say on this board (about bad experiences), "It was for your own better Karmic growth."

If that's true, that all conflict and issues ultimately are used for good, why should arguments and differences betweeen groups here on Lindaland be seen any differently?

As far as threads that go on wild tangents (to the people who have had their threads hijacked):

Sometimes the undertones are more interesting than the threads themselves. No offense to anyone!

It seems to me that people will pick at a thread for a bit, but then become easily distracted by someone else's insane take on a matter... and that, then becomes the focus.

Granted, within reason, I see how the polite thing to do is stay on the subject matter... but, why is it so terrible if we follow tangents? Maybe that could ultimately be a good thing???

Just food for thought.

posted November 18, 2010 04:22 AM         

"kiss my ass"

posted November 18, 2010 08:12 AM         

HAHAHA!! that was the creepiest movie ever...

posted November 18, 2010 09:27 AM         

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"What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies with in us."
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posted November 18, 2010 10:10 AM         

SO TRUE!
It was foolish of me to expect more from some people.
ASKING for more was a joke.

I feel the "bite" in what you said, and the judgment... but, expecting "more" from "some people" is a little strict and unfair... We're all human here!

That said, in honesty - MOST THREADS STAY ON TOPIC!

In my opinion, there was a valid attempt from others to participate on the Kate Middleton and Prince William thread.

But, with other tangents being brought up, it was IMPOSSIBLE for most (considering the radical subject matter) to not say something!

Most everyone apologized to you, as well. I even, when realizing that you were upset, tried to bring the subject back to the original subject.

But, I left understanding that there are radically different viewpoints coming from all walks of life, here!

posted November 18, 2010 10:11 AM         

i don't believe however, this means we should encourage the kinds that lead to fighting where ego's become unnecessarily dented, members end up leaving, bad words are exchanged or anything like that.

also, of all the forums i browse, LL is the most drama-orientated of them all, but it makes sense since LL contains the kind of content taht would bring opinions, and opnions clash.

however, we are adults, there is alot we can learn from conflict and the kinds of things you mention and encourage to just be. i don't think it being a natural thing in life necessarily means its something we should do. we can say many things like that about things in life that just Shouldnt be, but are. right?

in my opinion, people can conflict, disagree, and "argue" eachothers opinion, without actually arguing, fighting or taking the argument outside of the facts or the question.

thats my opinion.

p.s. i am not a member that complains about how this forum is in terms of arguments or drama. i'v not had an issue for atleast a year on here. im sure..

posted November 18, 2010 10:25 AM         

i have been there a lot in my life, but i am maturing and evoling quite quickly and i have learned that being Wrong isn't a bad thing, it's a bad thing if you can't see or accept that you are wrong. They key focus members need more of is to be happy with just finding an answer or truth to a debate, who finds it or really has it doesn't really matter, it only matters if your ego is invested into it. what really matters is taht you learned something to take with you from it that you didn't have with you before. and if you happen to be the one that already knew what as right, then hopefully you learned something else from it.

we learn alot from being wrong nad making mistakes, usually more than doing things right without understanding why.

posted November 18, 2010 10:31 AM         

i honestly believe alot of people invest their their ego into being right in an argument so much that they care too much about being right, and why? because i think people desire a status or reputation in some way on the forums. to have a "name".

Maybe that's true for some of our more ego-centric posters (but, this is Lindaland, not OPRAH!!), but for others, they're wrapped up in their heartfelt opinions.

When certain ideas are brought up, it yanks the literal "heart strings" of a person.

That adds A LOT of fire and what could be misinterpreted as "ego" on the forums, too.

posted November 18, 2010 10:43 AM         

"being Wrong isn't a bad thing, it's a bad thing if you can't see or accept that you are wrong."

i tend to have that problem...maybe its my scorpio nature...but i'm working on it a LOT, LOL

posted November 18, 2010 10:45 AM         

there are also plenty of disagreements that start from miscomprehension of someone else's expression...

someone posted a clip of linda in interview here awhile ago. in the short clip she managed to get in a remark about politicians "shooting quail - they shot the wrong quayle if you ask me" she said, referring to a lameduck politician of the time...she did not mince her words when expressing her opinion but it was only ever HER opinion. that's protected under free speech laws in most "free" countries, so far anyway. why should we all be tiptoeing around each other?

posted November 18, 2010 10:49 AM         

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i am not a member that complains about how this forum is in terms of arguments or drama. i'v not had an issue for atleast a year on here. im sure

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You are so cute

posted November 18, 2010 10:55 AM         

because, even if its heart felt, why should i let someone else disturb something i believe in inside so surely?

people who can be heart felt in waht they are talking about could learn to sometimes be happy with their own beleif and direction in their mind and heart in life. and not concern if someone else wishes to believe in something else and take another step.

once the necessary explaination each is served up, there is waht really matters most - what each of you think. not necessarily whos faith or reasons is better all the time.

posted November 18, 2010 11:18 AM         

Here goes ...

I would have felt personally responsible if I hadn't tried stopping it and something was said that deeply hurt someone.
I harbour guilt like no-one else.
Instead of playing 'wait and see' I asked for it to stop.
Was that wrong of me?

I always knew it wouldn't stop completely. I'm not stupid.

If the subject matter was different I might have left you all to amuse yourselves.

posted November 18, 2010 11:48 AM         

I once wandered into a local area chat room to find if anyone had any old street maps of my home town (I was tracing family history at the time)
Two people were extremely helpful and directed me somewhere that could help but then a third person entered the room (as they put it)and told me

"He would find me, slice off my *&$% pull the remainder over my head, remove my liver and make me eat it (I did point out in my reply to him that this might be difficult with my nether regions blocking the relevant orifice but that I was reassured to know, somewhere within a few miles of me that someone was writing this bilge in his bedsit/ sheltered accomodation/back bedroom of his mother's house, whilst jamming a sharp object into his forehead.

Suffice to say this did not go down too well.

posted November 18, 2010 02:23 PM         

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY