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Lara unregistered
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posted November 24, 2010 10:58 AM
Following on from the other thread - yes please, if you can email me through Lexx or Katatonic i'd be so grateful IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 unregistered
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posted November 24, 2010 11:07 AM
what is the matter with people here lately?i just saw now Randall´s thread about the banned knowflakes...didnt understand it very well. Did belgz offended Randall?or it was Spanky? why there are so many fights around here lately?people offending and judging?and now even on Astro.2 there are people there offending us,who love astrology,just for the sake of wanting to appear "more than" they really are.... is there anything specific in the sky that contributes to this? Now DD is going to leave LL too...=( why???? we must not give importance to those which do not have that importance in our lifes... if someone tries to offend,then we know we are who we are,and not take it personally...cause...people act with mean purposes when they are in real deep pain. if then we forgive the bad act,and the other doesnt accept it or continues to act out of egoic needs...then we must not care anymore,as we did the right thing. im so sad....LL was a family comunity where we shared our things...nobody was offended,everybody felt the love here.
please...dont let LL sink....we all that have been here sharing the Love,dont go away. keep the positive string,so that the lower vibrations looses its strengh. IP: Logged |
firecracker Knowflake Posts: 554 From: all places Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 24, 2010 11:20 AM
it seemed we were working through a few things, but i guess not really. it seems it is no longer an open forum. on the front page it says: ***You are free to speak your Minds about anything, but please, use no profanity or personal insults. Linda was adamantly opposed to the medical theocracy and, in some cases, organized religion, and here in Lindaland we shall continue her legacy in those regards. As a Ram, Linda had a fiery passion for her beliefs, and we do encourage others here to do likewise. There will be no censorship here, and freedom of expression and speech rules supreme***it seems the rules have changed. How sad. Threads that do not break the rules have been closed and delted alot lately. It is a very sad thing. I feel like we lost something that was precious. Well, I hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving anyway, and a happy holiday season and a wonderful year ahead!!!! IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 9853 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 24, 2010 11:25 AM
No, we still have freedom of expression. But I have let it go too far in the past. Change isn't easy, but we have to change, because people are taking things to extremes. Freedom of expression no longer means you can insult anyone in the process. It has always meant that, but I gave leeway to try to keep the openness here. The rules aren't changing; they are just going to be more uniformly enforced. ------------------ "The earth is not given to us by our mothers and our fathers, it is borrowed from our children." IP: Logged |
Lara unregistered
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posted November 24, 2010 11:33 AM
Diandra,We have a new mod who thinks she is Hitler... it is sad that DD is leaving. Lots of great people have now left. The forum is changed and not for the better i fear. Rose coloured glasses seem to be worn and peoples motives are being misunderstood, at the expense of LL. It will ALL come out in the wash though. Feel free to email DD and l. BTW l agree with you about keeping the positive string but sadly, the boat has currently no rudder or sails! She's sailing out of control under a squared sun. Firecracker - it was precious and it's always that we realise how precious when it's gone I'm so upset about T leaving and now DD that l can't believe ugliness can win in here.
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Lara unregistered
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posted November 24, 2010 11:33 AM
HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!! IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 unregistered
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posted November 24, 2010 11:35 AM
i agree Randallone thing is to disagree and share personal viewpoints - with respect for the other. another thing completelly different are insults.provocatory lines.offenses. LL will be the place again, where we can share our things without having to be consistently provoqued.or having to consistently proof our beliefs. i believe that we are stronger than that. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 14222 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 24, 2010 11:36 AM
Freedom of expression does NOT trump all, IMO. There are MANY things that people cannot say,legally such as scream "Fire" in a crowded room or say they want to assasinate the president. If *I* owned the forum, anyone who called me a bad name would be G-O-N-E. IF they truly apologized, I would consider re-instating them. I prolly would but the apology would have to come with genuine remorse.Also, if someone were an UNREGENERATE troublemaker, they would be G-O-N-E, too. ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 9853 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 24, 2010 11:41 AM
We have occasional arguments here. It's par for the course. It has happened off and on for a decade. People outgrow, move on, leave, come back, and sometimes even end us as good friends afterward. But I've apologized, and some choose not to accept my apology, so there's nothing more I can do. If people aren't happy, then I would want them to find happiness. It would be selfish to expect someone to stay when they don't want to be here. Onward and upward! ------------------ "The earth is not given to us by our mothers and our fathers, it is borrowed from our children." IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6655 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 24, 2010 11:41 AM
a little rhetorical question here, well maybe not SO little:what is too much freedom? and who is in a position to decide how much others should have? i have spent time on a board where if people want to get involved in pointless arguments they are left to it till one or both gets sick and tired of it. that can be pages and days and even weeks in one case. that board recently survived even the death of one of it's most crucial members...(hard situation to explain but true)...and is still going. i appreciate purple coming here and giving an uninterrupted side of the story that was not really visible before. i deplore the shutting down of threads just because they are "spiralling down"? i don't know how that applies to the PURPLE thread that just got closed, where people were actually reconnecting after a big bust up? awhile back randall was wondering whether he should discontinue the "edit" button on posts. we all opted to keep it because honestly you just don't always get everything said the way you wanted to the first time out! i wonder how this whole mess would've looked if NO ONE could edit/delete posts and threads. at least we would have known the truth and been able to decide whether we wanted to be here or not. i mostly have stayed out of this one because a} i couldn't figure out what was going on and b} i didn't want to add to the fire. but i think "too much freedom" is a tricky phrase that bears thinking about. as to the crazy energy, look at the world around us. it is all going down all around us! this place is part of the world, cyberspace or not... IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 9853 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 24, 2010 11:45 AM
On THIS Board, kat, too much freedom is insulting others and constant bickering. There are Boards that allow that; we do not. Most Boards ban the offender instantly. We are kind of in the middle of the two extremes, in that I try to give people a chance to calm down. ------------------ "The earth is not given to us by our mothers and our fathers, it is borrowed from our children." IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6655 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 24, 2010 11:49 AM
randall i appreciate the lightness of your hand often. however MANY here have been called derogatory names. lara was called the DEVIL the other day, valus was a past master at derogatory names and character assassination but he had to ASK to get banned. something is just not adding up. and i think that is partly due to "classified info" as it were. things removed ...IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6655 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 24, 2010 11:50 AM
LARA i have ze info you seek dahlink!IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 14222 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 24, 2010 11:55 AM
There is no balance written in the sky for how much freedom of "expression". That is up to the authority of any system/operation,in the case LL,obviously.It would be nice if rules came down from on high as to how to balance things. They don't. Randall is trying to balance things as well as he can. He is doing an UNBELIEVABLE job. Maybe, some of you with such BIG opinions should try to run an operation as big as LL and see how "fair" and balanced you would be with all the pressure that entails. Think about it Signed Ass Kisser ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 9853 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 24, 2010 12:08 PM
Actually, Valus was banned for other reasons. It is merely a coincidence that he "dared" me to ban him. He didn't ask at all. But that's not why he was banned. Bottom line, we can't all be buddy buddy friends. If you don't get along with someone, avoid that person. Easy solution. IF YOU CAN'T SAY SOMETHING NICE, DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL. Lindaland isn't going to sink. We get over 100 new sign-ups a day. My choice is to keep the hand light. But sometimes an iron fist is necessary for blatant violations of the rules. I'm running out of patience. ------------------ "The earth is not given to us by our mothers and our fathers, it is borrowed from our children." IP: Logged |
Deux*Antares Knowflake Posts: 955 From: I am where I am and it's enough. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 24, 2010 12:09 PM
Could it be that we need a new forum?Like a boxing ring or something? IP: Logged |
Lara unregistered
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posted November 24, 2010 12:12 PM
Thanks Kat Yeah, your mods can be as rude as they like Randall but if your members put so much as a little finger wrong, OFF WITH THEIR HEADS! wtf is all that about? If you bothered to listen to me, you'd understand that i'm a very rational, fair and calm person. Just because l can cut through a persons mask to see their soul and their motives doesn't mean i'm the bad one. I live for truth, loyalty and trust. Much as l think you yourself do. I'm a taurus ffs. Please email me. Kat, Lexx have my email. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 9853 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 24, 2010 12:22 PM
Lara, I know what you're doing. And I know why you're here. How stupid do you think I am? ------------------ "The earth is not given to us by our mothers and our fathers, it is borrowed from our children." IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 unregistered
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posted November 24, 2010 12:26 PM
RaLara is a good person. and how is the process of someone to be a moderator in the forum? cause the way i see it,people like PS had so little time here...and starts threads like the flamers...just with the intend to really....cause discussions and ignite passions. dont you see this too? IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 5464 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 24, 2010 12:31 PM
Ami, you and I should talk sometime.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 9853 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 24, 2010 12:31 PM
What I see is bickering. And it has to stop. I do value the members who have been here for years. I also value the new ones. I value everyone. But we can't reach solutions until the flaming stops. Once everyone is calm, then we can have healthy discussion.------------------ "The earth is not given to us by our mothers and our fathers, it is borrowed from our children." IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 14222 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 24, 2010 12:34 PM
It would be my pleasure, AG Thank you for addressing me so respectfully. I appreciate it!
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AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 5464 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 24, 2010 12:38 PM
Got itIP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 9853 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 24, 2010 12:38 PM
Well, kat, there is some classified info. I can't violate anyone's privacy. Let's just say that there is plenty of more going on than meets the eye. Rest assured, I am doing the right thing, as I always strive to do. I'm not expecting anyone to trust me or to take my word; all I expoect is for the bickering to stop. Then we can calmly discuss the changes, or if we need to make any at all. And Lara, you're not going to change my mind about anything, so stop the crusade. You have no idea what is really going on and has gone on behind the scenes on my side of the fence. I'm going to assume your heart is in the right place, but since you are doing all of this for ME, I'm telling you, don't bother. You are missing out on some valuable information, so you are not acting with the whole story. I can't post any more than that. So, just let it go.------------------ "The earth is not given to us by our mothers and our fathers, it is borrowed from our children." IP: Logged |
charmainec Moderator Posts: 2745 From: on the other side of the rainbow Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 24, 2010 12:39 PM
Lara not all mods are rude.Randall,peoples emotions are running high and started due to the incident that took place so starting threads such as flame throwers are bound to cause trouble. Mods should be here to keep the peace as well. ------------------ quote: "What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies with in us." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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