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PlutoSquared
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posted November 24, 2010 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
My 2 cents:

Control has to start from the top, down.

Just like children will throw bigger and worse tantrums if they sense that their parents will entertain it, the flamers and unhappy folks are going to keep flaming these forums with insults and opinions to no end.

They are not here to make peace.
They are not here to find a way to resolve issues.

In their minds, they are blameless.

I can assure you: WE ARE NOT GOING TO ALL END UP BEING FRIENDS. THINKING LIKE THAT IS UNREALISTIC.

The "flamers" are here to force themselves on this board, and regain some sort of lost control with whatever means necessary... by provoking, by insulting, by pointing out unfairness (yet, while being unfair - this is called deflecting)...

Ultimately, these are grown adults that are warped and stuck at a toddler mentality...
And, they enjoy the contention their behavior causes...

I for one, will NOT be leaving these forums. And, I also will NOT be making peace with these people. They are not here to make peace.

For reference, I also just wanted to state the terms and policies of two other popular astrology boards, for comparision:

Astrologer's Community FAQ

This forum is dedicated to astrology, bringing together beginners and advanced practitioners of this ancient art.

Registration

Registering multiple accounts is not permitted. Any such accounts will be banned by moderators.

Ethical rules to observe

Your participation on this forum is allowed and welcomed as long as you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, harmful to young people, hateful, racist, offensive, threatening, defamatory, damaging, or otherwise violative of any laws. Please know that the IP address of your computer at the time of posting is stored and that will be passed to the legal authorities, if demanded. You are solely responsable for what you post, the forum administrator and moderators decline any responsibility related to content of the posts sent to the forum, as well as to the consequences of using the information on the forum.

Flaming, spamming, or trolling is basis for immediate banning from the forum. Please do not post angry messages (flaming), post the same message over and over across the forum (spamming), and do not post messages for the sole purpose of angering other people in the forum (trolling).

The forum administration also prohibits any threads and/or posts related to personal and other peoples sexual issues and/or behavior, that cross the line of common sense. ONLY astrological discussions are permitted on sex-related topics. Underaged members are advised to ask parental permission to discuss sexual matters in this Forum but this site cannot be held responsible if permission is not obtained.

Astrological data are highly sensitive. We therefore ask you to take the protection of personal data of third persons very seriously. If you wish to post the chart of a person known to you, you must have their permission to do so or anonymize the name and all birth / personal data. If this is not the case, please refrain from posting this chart.

Please know that you should take your own risks if you decide to trust someone else with their astrological services, as this forum does not undertake any responsibility for any astrological services, especially those offered against a fee, via this forum in any form: through public forums or chat, private messages or emails.

Also remember that this is a public forum, indexed by search engines (Google, for instance), so basically everything you post here is not only viewable by any other person, but it also can be retrieved by a simple internet search.

Forum moderation

The forum is moderated by a team of moderators. Their list is available on this page: Forum Leaders.

Although the administrator and moderators of Astrologers' Community will make all reasonable efforts to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the administrator or moderators of Astrologers' Community will be held responsible for the content of any message.

The administrator and moderators of Astrologers' Community reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread or post which fails to abide the forum rules. Moderators' means to get users to comply with these common sense rules include friendly communication, warnings, and eventually banning in case of repeated or extreme unwanted behavior. Banning from the forum is only done for some violation of the forum rules. The moderators' decisions are final. You just have to trust the moderators that they're doing the best job they can.

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/faq.php?s=4949ccc3259206f1d169fc58046f1bea

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PlutoSquared
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posted November 24, 2010 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Bob Marks Astrologers Forums:

Forum Rules, Regulations & Etiquette:

New to these Forums? Read these guidelines before posting. We try to give everyone at least 1 warning before taking corrective action but sometimes an immediate response is required. Failure to abide by these simple rules could result in deletions of posts, images, links and/or immediate banning without warning or notice. The keyword here for not violating the rules is simply RESPECT.

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete any messages without notice. We also reserve the right to disable accounts and/or ban members without warning that violate any of the following rules and regulations: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Foul Language and/or graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, name-calling, general nuisance, etc. 5. Messages of a disrespectful nature or meant to harm. 6. Lack of Civility, common sense and decency. 7.Any posts or messages causing any legal liability for the board. No copyright infringements or plagiarism. 8. Use of the forums for personal or business advertisement-types - No solicitations. No other postings/ads allowed for new or existing message boards, advertisement websites, or such. 9. Your email address must be valid and able to receive communications from this site (make sure to change spam filters to accept emails for this site) 10. Creating multiple accounts or memberships without the prior permissions of the web-administrator project manager. (webadmin/pm). 11. Failure or refusal to abide by the guidelines or rules.

http://www.bobmarksastrologer.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1305

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Lara
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posted November 24, 2010 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
we don't care what you think.

It's disgusting how you cornered Spanky and you should be stripped of your moderator duties but l guess you will keep on posting as if you are sitting on the top dogs face.

(and you had the audacity to call me a bully!!!!)
lol

Step up to the plate PS. Apologise PUBLICLY to Spanky for fcuking her over, or are you really just a fraulein pussy and can't stand up on your own two feet for what you believe in?

You are the original flamer and i'm not buying this crap. I'm sure l have company in my 'pane of glass' observations of you.

grrrr

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PlutoSquared
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posted November 24, 2010 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
I would like to add that these sites are in the top 3 search results for "astrology forum" on google...


Also, that rules need to be consistent across the board.

But, until some sort of structure is put forth, I see this stuff continuing on and on...

Until some sort of rules are put forth, please consider me like I was, just a regular member of this forum. Because, calling me a moderator is suggestive and misrepresentative of my intent of all other threads (except for responding to new forum members in beginner's astrology), at this point in time.

I am not here to "moderate" the behavior of intentional flamers, nor do I have the desire or patience to deal with their behavior.

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firecracker
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posted November 24, 2010 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message
pluto squared:

i find you to be so very rude. of course that is just my humble opinion. you seem to cause a lot of trouble and take your modshiip a little too seriously, so put down your big big stick before you trip over it.

time will prove every word i just said. no matter WHO is actually left to witness it.

even Randall will see someday, because the truth is the truth.


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Lara
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posted November 24, 2010 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
great minds firecracker

see my post above yours lol
(it was a little more direct though)

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PlutoSquared
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posted November 24, 2010 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

we don't care what you think.
It's disgusting how you cornered Spanky and you should be stripped of your moderator duties but l guess you will keep on posting as if you are sitting on the top dogs face.

(and you had the audacity to call me a bully!!!!)
lol

Step up to the plate PS. Apologise PUBLICLY to Spanky for fcuking her over, or are you really just a fraulein pussy and can't stand up on your own two feet for what you believe in?


I WILL NEVER APOLOGIZE TO SPANKY. I will NEVER, EVER, EVER.

I knew spanky's intent from the moment she posted that inflammatory response on the board, that was insulting to the entire forum...

I did not "**** over" spanky. I just didn't deal with Spanky's ridiculous behavior the way she wanted me to... oh, well... that's on her.

You are the original flamer and i'm not buying this crap. I'm sure l have company in my 'pane of glass' observations of you.

grrrr

I am not the original flamer. I have just pegged you and a few of your friends to distinctive behavior, and that p's you off...

I'm not taking those things back, either.

CHEERS!


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Randall
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posted November 24, 2010 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Lara, you have been warned. If you hurl another insult, you will have to go.

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"The earth is not given to us by our mothers and our fathers, it is borrowed from our children."

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firecracker
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posted November 24, 2010 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message
yes, lara, same meaning, only i didnt use the words "frauelin pussy", if i remember correctly.

so randall, i guess we, your long time supporters, really don't matter anymore. you know us well after all these years. this is not ok with me.

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DiandraReborn25
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posted November 24, 2010 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
i agree.

there seems to be people registering here lately that only act according to their own egos..seem that they bring their problems into here,trying to ignite discussions,violent ones,by means of offending,calling names,provoking..and all that is not worthy of importance.

one of the most important person to me here in LL - DD -- said she is leaving and im fed up with these "flamerīs " who only wants to have attention ( cause surely they dont get it in real life).

LL is still a place of familiarity and Love.

those who believe in this - PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE the forum.do not take things personally,as this is what the "flamers"want.

i see now that even "old knowflakes" started to offend mermbers here and those are acts that i cannot agree with also.

but if we are really conected,if we mantain what we constructed here,with each others,instead of leaving.we will be stronger.

we will,no matter the circunstances,mantain and share our love for astrology,and all that in the 1st place,led us here.

DD - if you re reading this,do come back.

the things that have been happening here lately are temporary...

someone once said:

no one inferior to us can offend us, and no one superior would.....


i dont like to talk about sup vers inf themes as its always misinterpreted but here,we do are obbliged to think like that cause respect is the thing that delimits ones from another.

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firecracker
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posted November 24, 2010 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message
i am pretty sure we have you pegged too ps.

from your trouble making in astro 2 to your inflamatroy little passive / aggressive thread today.

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AcousticGod
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posted November 24, 2010 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
PS, to put it nicely you don't really have a context for philosophizing regarding LL. Control, from the top down, will alienate most people here. It's literally like going from freedom to being under a despot's thumb. This place does know how to police itself believe it or not. You haven't even been here long enough to know just how small Randall's input has been for most of the years of this site's existence. I do think he should be welcome here, of course. It's just that suddenly taking an authoritarian turn is not in the best interest of this forum. We're free thinking freedom-loving people here. You try taking that away, and people will lose interest in being here.

I believe you opined that this is the best of the astrological forums. It is so because of the community. You can't alienate them. You'll destroy it.

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PlutoSquared
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posted November 24, 2010 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Firecracker,

You mean when I said, "venemous snakes"?

Yes. I really feel that you and your flaming friends are that. You're here to cause trouble, and not to make peace.

I don't care if you find that rude. I am like anybody else, reduced to having to deal with toddler behavior. Don't expect me to unreact when you defile every forum that you post in...

This is a free for all, at this point in time, and I will not be held to higher standards than the posters themselves - that means you!

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Benedict Moon*
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posted November 24, 2010 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
I haven't commented on any of this until now because I didn't know the full but from what Lara posted over on the new forum, I fail to see how they broke the rules? It seems to me that they just voiced their opinions and got egged for it. I totally understand now why other people left in protest.

PS: How can you speak of people as flamers who have been here alot long than you? Just as question since I've been here just as long as those two and have rarely had a problem with them.

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PlutoSquared
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posted November 24, 2010 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
AcousticGod,

PS, to put it nicely you don't really have a context for philosophizing regarding LL.

And, who has a context? You, Lara, Firecracker???

Who has to give me the "context" to make an observation? YOU? Your friends? An mob of supporters?

I don't think so, AG. I give myself context, regardless of my "title"... don't like it, don't read it. I guess that's the most simple rule that can be applied to the forum, at this point.

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Lara
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posted November 24, 2010 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
LOL PS, do you get all your lines off Scarface? Kinda figures... shoot from the hip and aim to kill.


Randall - insult? Show me my insult pretty please? I'm not about to be threatened by you Randall. I have done nothing wrong here - just observing and it seems quite a few people agree? So you going to ban your entire community?

Maybe you should consider that we are long-standing PAYING members to your "house" and that we have a right to an opinion.

With all due respect, l don't see how i'm insulting pet PS and l am flabbergasted how you fail to see her 'motive' and authoritarian tone on this thread!

I look forward to your response. Bear in mind that a lot of people are p1ssed off and it's not going to go away until PS's tone is corrected.

Firecracker - i guess not! Don't forget to email me before Randall throws the switch!
roarrrrrrrrr

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PlutoSquared
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posted November 24, 2010 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Benedict Moon,

My opinions of flamers has been a new observation in the last week...

Seeing the things take place, as they have, gives me the incentive to make these observations.

You only need to see bad behavior once or twice to know what you're dealing with.

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DiandraReborn25
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posted November 24, 2010 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
im confused here....why are you all against each otherīs?

perhaps i missed a lot of posts around here lately....

arent we in agreement - ALL - that everyone that comes here and insults/offends others,must take a step backwards and apologize?


isnt LL a place of sharing,of respect,of love,of brotherwood?

if its so,why all these nasty comments?


i just know that Spanky and Belgz said something very offensive to Randall.and dont know anything more,and if this was true,then i agree 100% that these things should better not happen anymore.

people are banned but they can return.they can apologize.there is room for forgiveness.


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firecracker
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posted November 24, 2010 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message
look in the mirror pluto squared. YOU are the troublemaker.

I have been here a long time and have friends that respect me. i would never intentionally hurt another person and everyone here knows that...from knowing me for YEARS!
so don't project your crap. dont start no sh!t and there won't be any.
soon everyone will see what you are made of. even Randall. maybe even today if you keep running your mouth.


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PlutoSquared
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posted November 24, 2010 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe you should consider that we are long-standing PAYING members to your "house" and that we have a right to an opinion.


OHHHHHH! Now, I see where your attitude comes from, Lara! You've paid Randall to deal with your behavior!!!

I see, I see!

But, in response to that, I am also allowed to have an opinion. My opinion will NOT change, and that's regardless of Randall. So, don't target him.

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PlutoSquared
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posted November 24, 2010 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Firecracker,

look in the mirror pluto squared. YOU are the troublemaker.
I have been here a long time and have friends that respect me. i would never intentionally hurt another person and everyone here knows that...from knowing me for YEARS!
so don't project your crap. dont start no sh!t and there won't be any.
soon everyone will see what you are made of. even Randall. maybe even today if you keep running your mouth.

No, firecracker. I'm allowed to have my opinions, and whatever you want to project ONTO ME, is just fine...

I will continue to use these forums, like your group of friends do. I guess if you think that's "running my mouth" so be it...

If you're allowed to bring up the past, to no end, then I will give myself the right to react to it...

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firecracker
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posted November 24, 2010 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message
i guess ag is a flamer too?
and kat ..right?
and lara?
and pire,
spanky
t
belgz,
and anyone who doesn't blow smoke up your tooty.
and actually, anyone with more than 3 months behind them that see what is happening and doesn't like it.
interesting.

little girl, you are out of your element and have no idea what you are talking about.
good luck with that one Randall, good luck with your karma, pluto square.

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Lara
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posted November 24, 2010 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Diandra.

We have a rat in the kitchen and we are just trying to trap it before it shuts us down!


RANDALL - PLEASE SEE WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?????
I KNOW YOU ARE NOT BLIND.
IF YOU HAVE TO EMAIL ME THEN DO BUT PLEASE!!!!!!!!
this will ruin your site. PS is destroying the love at LL.

Read your members posts. LISTEN. LEARN.
Look at who is the nutter here, ranting and trouble making!

PS, you are crazy. I feel sorry for you. My attitude is of truth and l can smell your manipulation and lies a 5,000 miles off.

I have been here 3 years. I love and admire my friends here. They are honest, trustworthy, good people who LOVE LL. We will not allow LL to be destroyed by scum like you.

BTW "scum" is not an insulting word. It's a penetrating film (!) and bubbles on surface water.

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Benedict Moon*
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posted November 24, 2010 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
Whatever man, just remember that you are a Mod now.


LL used to be pretty Lassez faire (sp?), AG is correct about that, and things fixed themselves. I'm not sure what happened to that.

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AcousticGod
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posted November 24, 2010 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
PS, you don't create your own context. You don't walk into a new job, and claim you know everything about it, do you? No. There is an established culture, which you have to find a way to be part of. I've given you a roadmap that works, and I do KNOW this.

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