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letram
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posted January 09, 2011 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i wondered..

if we believe in Heaven, and hell, these places.. do we wonder how big these places are? are they like the size of the universe? are they a place with no begining or end in atmosphere?

i wonder this because i thought, can we believe in these places being large enough to house every single soul/spirit from every person who has died in humanity? you think of how full the world is becoming, potentially at a rate where we can expect to exceed space for accomidation for people to live here, what about all those that have died? how many people have died since mankind begun? when did people start going to heaven? (what if you believe in the human-ape theory?)

if these places could never be big enough to accomidate all these souls and spirits (can you imagine them all bunched up together with no space to breath? comical perhaps..)

i thought maybe this idea lends support to the theory of reincarnation, previous lives, karmic debts..

perhaps everytime someone dies, they recycle into a new human in a new life time. maybe even animals not necessarily humans?

and maybe this is how things like the North node come into understanding, and who we was in previous life times.

perhaps an entire generation every time North Node changes sign, begins a cycle of reincarnation of a specific generation.

what do you think in regards to these thoughts?

do you believe in heaven? hell? reincarnation?

where does your astrological interest/belief stand in it?

thanks for reading.

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NickiG
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posted January 09, 2011 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my belief is very "buddhist" like in that i believe in karma and reincarnation and that we reincarnate as many times as it takes for us to learn all of lifes lessons and once we have learned all we have to we go to heaven and heaven is just as big as it was as when God created it, before the big bang which is how i believe God created Earth. i believe in the ape-to-man theory...evolution has been evident by the bones archeologists have found...my belief is that God created Earth by the big bang (something like the big bang cant possibly start on its own, it needs a catalyst) and god created evolution, the afterlife is as big as it has always been and was designed to hold every spirit, no crowding, no arguing, just peace and simplicity, just "Heaven". i also dont believe in "Hell" although i am deeply interested in it and if we are "evil" in one life then we reincarnate into a creature of lower creation or "intelligence" as i define it such as from a human serial killer to a frog....yes, i like to do this kind of mixing and matching to satisfy everyone, but these are my honest beliefs

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LEXX
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posted January 09, 2011 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My pov.....
there is no final resting place.
One incarnates into eternity.
The incarnations will change with eternal time
as physical forms evolve/change.
Of course, one can get off the reincarnation cycle by ceasing to exist, their identity pattern destroyed,
their energy recycled to be used by those who do not desire stasis/stagnation, which is an utter waste of being/existing and thusly, cannot be a sustained state.

As to heavens/hells?
Not going to get into it here.
Topics are in books I am working on.

I have posted at Divine Diversities and Universal Codes on such things.

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BanxxManxx
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posted January 10, 2011 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxxManxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am starting to believe that there might be a place where you would keep negative entities or demons. They have no desire for good, they only seek to harm humans and feed off of them. So yes, negative entities will be locked up in a very bad place where they can live with each other. That way they won't harm the people anymore. The human being, the soul, doesn't go to hell, it is pure, it is what we seek to find in ourselves.

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katatonic
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posted January 10, 2011 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how big is a soul? why do they need to take up "space" as we conceive of it? heaven could be the size of a pinhead and hold all our souls for all we know. i don't believe it is a place like jamaica where we go to play after death...

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Randall
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posted January 11, 2011 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What Kat said.

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SunChild
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posted January 12, 2011 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda said something about it being a mirror image ....

in Anthroposophy, our inner world becomes our outer world as we travel through each sphere, the moon being our "karmaloca", "purgatory period" where our desires and attachments are released, once all attachmenet has gone/accepted, we travel, if we developed a close relationship with the spiritual and developed our existential thoughts, then the world we enter through will be advantageous to us... we can communicate...grow...change... there

...until birth, there is no resting place, although each phase can contain a rest,

have to continue this post later...


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