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Topic: Why Do You Smoke?
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PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 28 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 18, 2011 03:20 PM
I'm just curious. And just to be clear I don't look down on smokers. I've been around smokers all my life and I mostly shrug it off as long as common sense & basic courtesy is shown. I'm respectfully asking because I like to understand how the world works and I don't understand the popularity of smoking.I suppose it's possible that early childhood experiences may be why I don't smoke. Granny said I stole a puff of her cigarette once and got sick. Dad often fell asleep drinking with a cigarette in hand which gave me nightmares of him dropping his cigarette and starting fires that chased me so I probably associated smoking with danger (and today I shrug off "second hand smoke dangers" for the most part but fear the fires smoking can cause). I was independent-minded so I wasn't inclined to do as my family did. But thing was I experimented with drugs in my youth, including tobacco. But while most drugs I experimented with made me feel good, tobacco just made me feel sick. And I understand it's a common reaction. So my question is why would people continue to smoke if it made them feel bad? Why would they burden themselves with an expensive addiction when it doesn't even feel good? I asked one person years ago and she said she hoped it made her appear more adult and thus to be taken seriously (and her family smoked). And I've seen plenty of advertisement to create an image (like a Virginia Slim showing sophisticated women smoking, or Marlboro Man making it seem tough, rugged guys smoke), which presumably has an affect. So if you chose to smoke, why? Was it to feel more adult? To be like family? Because it was part of an image? Did it seem empowering (if so, why)? Even if it was "just peer pressure," why do you think your peers smoked? And did any smoking ad ever particularly appeal to (or repulse) you? Thank you IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6252 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 18, 2011 04:50 PM
hi PJ! it takes a bighearted nonsmoker to be tolerant of those who do, so thanks for that...some people act as if just seeing someone smoke is dangerous and contagious.i think i originally started smoking to be "naughty"..def not peer pressure, as i tend to rebel against any social expectations! i still smoke because i find it grounding and as addictions go it is actually very cheap. a single beer costs almost as much as a pack of cigs, and other drugs? off the charts... just for the record i have tried almost every "addictive" substance known to modern man...and cigarettes are the only ones that didn't get too expensive, dangerous or boring to continue. i have stopped a couple of times and had several spells where i only had one or two a day. since a high percentage of those who live to well over 100 are smokers i refuse to be cowed by popular opinion and so-called proofs that it is deadly. the human being is such an un-controll-able species i don't rate much of the "evidence" as being conclusive, and tobacco has been part of our collective lives throughout history. the natives considered it sacred.. did it make me woozy the first time? yes. so did high diving, sky diving and swimming underwater! IP: Logged |
lechien Knowflake Posts: 851 From: my 30 cubic square meter room with a rat! Registered: May 2009
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posted April 18, 2011 05:06 PM
katatonic, i don't know where on earth you are living, but the cost of a pack of cigarettes = a bottle of bear???!!!??? that's not possible!! really?but yea i generally agree too. now i stopped smoking regularly… because i don't want to spend money on it anymore. i never got addicted to nicotine. i never got addicted to anything really. as an infant i had asthma, so my mother was paranoid about me getting anywhere near smokers. but my step-grandfather who was tutoring me was a chain-smoker, and i hated it… but i think it was just all in the head though, because of my mother's reaction. i didn't care much for it, i tried a few times a year off someone, etc. i started really smoking in my mid-twenties. no reason. i have no idea why i started. but for one, i like rolling. i don't smoke cigarettes, they feel dry. nowadays i just roll off my partner's once in a while, but really can go without for weeks without any craving. yea, but i don't necessarily care to quit completely either, so i may start again. i don't really believe it causes cancer either, my partner, who has been smoking since he was pre-teen (and drinking since infancy, lol… local custom) had a check up some years ago. he was super afraid how rotten his lungs would be. the doctor said his lungs were healthy as a new-born's. IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 5911 From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 18, 2011 06:56 PM
I started because I just wanted too. My dad smoked, my grandpa smoked. I started with a pipe and moved on to cigarettes and an occasional little cigar. I smoked for about 6 years than quit for about 24 years then started again with a clove cigarette. Bad move, was addicted again before first pack was empty. Been trying to quit and intend to do so. I roll my own blend of mellow blend pipe tobacco, spearmint, catnip, and raspberry leaf. I also still have the little cigars from time to time and use a hookah for Shisha Tobacco.I enjoy it, it calms me and makes my mind clearer. Main reason I am going to quit is because I have other things I could use the money on and also a few folks I am close to do not like it. Might continue to smoke a no tobacco blend of like spearmint, catnip, and raspberry leaf, but not sure yet. PS. Anyone here old enough to remember Lemon Twist cigarettes? They had a cute little lemon on them. ------------------ ~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine.~Nikola Tesla ~There is no box.~H♥ ~Balance is not letting anyone love you less than you love yourself.~Felipe ~I remember, therefore I am immortal~LEXX ~It is far better to regret wrong paths taken than to regret the paths not tried~Giselle }><}}}(*>~ IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 1647 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 18, 2011 07:12 PM
Like lexx, my entire family smoked and it was accepted then. I have quit on and off over the years but do smoke today. It is a bad habit and costly yet it sooths and relaxs me. Yes it stinks and offends many and a real down side. I try keep it to myself ie not smoking around others and carry febrez and mints. lexx, yes I remember Lemon Twists. They were menthol and not very tasty ------------------ ~The Earth Laughs In Flowers~ ... Emerson IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 5911 From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 18, 2011 07:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by juniperb: Like lexx, my entire family smoked and it was accepted then. I have quit on and off over the years but do smoke today. It is a bad habit and costly yet it sooths and relaxs me. Yes it stinks and offends many and a real down side. I try keep it to myself ie not smoking around others and carry febrez and mints. lexx, yes I remember Lemon Twists. They were menthol and not very tasty
Same here.Yeah Lemon Twists were kinda bland weird, I preferred Silvathins and Benson & Hedges, and Winstons.
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PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 28 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 20, 2011 06:15 PM
Ty all! Here's another question: what brand(s) did you smoke and why? IP: Logged |
SunChild Moderator Posts: 2184 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2011 06:37 PM
Bit of Market research pixiejane? Jk
I did a mind spell on myself and changed perception, that smoking did nothing for me and a cup tea would replace that weak buzz. I wanted the best health and so that had to go. I wonder if you can vaporize tobaccoo? That way you get all the chemcals you want but no tar. Just had a thought for my friends who smoke and look a bit under the weather. But I would source clean tobacco illegally if I ever had it again. For sure, no way I will inhale those fumes again.
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T Knowflake Posts: 3513 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2011 07:08 PM
I'll tell you why when i have some more time.always like what Kat has to say on this subject. IP: Logged |
SunChild Moderator Posts: 2184 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2011 07:48 PM
Also, smoking is initially alkalising, and that is why it feels grounding. And MAO inhibitors are great for creativity and that calm alert state of mind. I actually like it. (but it is weak compared to other ways) However, I can't justify those other additives, later I hope to find that pure tobacco, the tobacco leaf is shaped like a lung, and it actually is medicine, it was used for an asthmatic that my grandfather knew in the war. He told me to smoke but I explained the medicine is now a poison, but if I find a suitable grower, then I would. So tobacco itself is NOT ACTUALLY BAD FOR YOU. It's like you have a really powerful medicine but it's laced. hmmm.....and I also believe that we can become tolerant to the poison, and it may never kill us, because tobacco is a medicine, and it will only kill you if you want it too, but the poison can actually do harm which I have seen. But when I talk about health, I mean me personally. I feel better without those commercial ones. sorry I keep editing in thoughts, once I spent a lot of time on this, every smoker will justify their habit and at the same time I wanted health, so I looked for answers and found out I was normal and found out about the history of tobacco, what it USED to be, what is it now, ceremony, psychology, including bogan psychology lol as much as I could learn and understand because there is no simple answer here. ------------------ “It’s an interesting thing. Seeing Kuan Yin relating to a flower so intently. She's not just looking at it; she's interacting with it…I’m seeing how the act of relating to a flower appears to be so simple. Yet, it takes a tremendous amount of courage to make such a “simple” act important. Now, the lotus is floating away.”
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future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 202 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted April 20, 2011 11:50 PM
Interesting thread. I smoke a few cigarettes a day. It's almost pointless, really, but I tend to find them necessary. I hate smoking during the day-- I generally only smoke at night. For me it's a signal that I'm on my own time. What amazes me is how intense the cravings are. I don't even think about it during the day unless I'm extremely stressed. But once it's nighttime, I start needing it. Also, I'm a semi-closeted smoker. I don't identify myself as one, actually, even though I suppose I am. IP: Logged |
Rogue Guru Knowflake Posts: 97 From: Pleasantville, State of Euphoria, USA Registered: Jan 2011
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posted April 21, 2011 01:39 AM
SunChild, you smoke???*WHUMP!* (That was me falling out of my chair.) One more surprise out of you, young lady, you're liable to give this old man a coronary! I don't know why I started smoking. Most likely two influences and one event: - I started shortly before the whole public "stop smoking" campaign. It was still socially acceptable; you could smoke in restaurants, bars, everywhere. - Both of my parents were smokers, so, subconsciously, it must be all right. - When I was 16, one day when my best friend Kevin and I were skipping school and in the field across from it, he pulled out a pack of Marlboros and offered me one. I used to enjoy it (or think I did), but ever since Linda clued me in to possibility of life without death, it's more and more become just about avoiding the pain of withdrawal. I think quitting is in the near future, though, because the withdrawals seem less and less severe as time goes by, and they seem to taste worse and worse. Wish me luck. BTW, SunChild, some fascinating info there about tobacco. I'll look into it when I get a chance. IP: Logged |
SunChild Moderator Posts: 2184 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 21, 2011 01:59 AM
Lol guru, not at this instance, I am smoke free right now because I am carrying a fetus! So you can sit comfortable in your chair and regain normal heart function. But yes, I used to smoke on and off and never say never for the future! But like I said, pure organic tobacco it will be. ------------------ “It’s an interesting thing. Seeing Kuan Yin relating to a flower so intently. She's not just looking at it; she's interacting with it…I’m seeing how the act of relating to a flower appears to be so simple. Yet, it takes a tremendous amount of courage to make such a “simple” act important. Now, the lotus is floating away.” IP: Logged |
SunChild Moderator Posts: 2184 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 21, 2011 02:20 AM
And I haven't in a long time either, just setting the record straight. ------------------ “It’s an interesting thing. Seeing Kuan Yin relating to a flower so intently. She's not just looking at it; she's interacting with it…I’m seeing how the act of relating to a flower appears to be so simple. Yet, it takes a tremendous amount of courage to make such a “simple” act important. Now, the lotus is floating away.” IP: Logged |
Rogue Guru Knowflake Posts: 97 From: Pleasantville, State of Euphoria, USA Registered: Jan 2011
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posted April 21, 2011 02:58 AM
No worries, SC; I'd never think poorly of you for it. (Would be pretty hypocritical if I did!) Just didn't expect it from one of LL's health gurus. IP: Logged | |