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posted April 21, 2011 10:00 AM            

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What Ami said. And I will be accused of favoritism if I ignore such a blatant disregard for the foundational rules of Lindaland. It doesn't matter how popular the offender is. Years ago, a great Astrologer named Carlo was very loved here, but he made a racist comment, and I warned him, and then he did it again. I had no choice.

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posted April 21, 2011 10:04 AM            

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Not only did she NOT apologize, but she did it again and said she is going to say whatever is on her mind. That's just not acceptable. If you don't have the personal restraint to follow the rules, or at least can't step back after a heated argument and learn from it, then I have to do what I have to do, or I am a hypocrite.

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posted April 21, 2011 10:20 AM            

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Agreed.

We need structure here. A former member did something similar by saying that he didn’t care and challenged Randall to be banned and he got as he wished. The same should apply to all other members. If we have such attitudes we will have total chaos and lack of respect for the site, Webmaster and knowflakes.

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posted April 21, 2011 10:20 AM            

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I understand your difficult position.

We are all responsible for our actions and consequences .I hope each soul takes note.

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posted April 21, 2011 10:29 AM            

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I know T loves a few people here, but I do not feel she respects the rules; nor do I feel she loves the site or what it stands for, because if she did, she would want to help take it forward in a positive way and not try to bring it down. She could not say, "I don't care" if she cared about Lindaland. Those whom she loves and who love her in return can still communicate via other methods. Peace out.

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"All deaths are suicides, do you realize that? Every single one. The only distinction is that, with some people, suicide is a subconscious choice, and with others it's a conscious choice. Otherwise, those who commit suicide and those who succumb to accident, illness or "old age," die for exactly the same reason: belief in the inevitability of death." Linda Goodman

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posted April 21, 2011 10:34 AM            

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It doesn't matter how "popular" a member is;if they are disrespectful there are consequences.

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posted April 21, 2011 10:35 AM            

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Originally posted by T:
Randall, youve probably noticed by now, but I don't really care.

So, do what you will. I'm pretty much done here anyway.

If I say something that gets me banned, so be it! No biggie to me!!

I'll say what's on my mind!

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The above says it all. If she loved Lindaland, she truly would care. She wouldn't leave on her own over being politely admonished; nor would she want to be banned. Yes, she cares for a few people here, but she has no respect for the site.

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posted April 21, 2011 10:51 AM            

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I missed much more than I thought last night.

T spoke clearly and if banned, she will understand as we do .
And yes,all can communicate via other methods. She knows I and so many wish her love and Blessings on her journey.

May we lock the thread and let it stand as is?

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posted April 21, 2011 11:14 AM            

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Actually, all credibility was lost upon the enforcement of rules. Went from a self-Moderated site to a dictatorship. Truth.

People should be allowed to say what they want to say. If it's truly out of line, the populace will speak up. The only real bannable offense should be spamming, and the posting of truly offensive stuff.

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she would want to help take it forward in a positive way and not try to bring it down.

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Being here and participating is taking the site forward in a positive way. I don't know how many times I have to remind people around here that it's the people that make the site. When you get rid of the people, you hurt your site. Plain and simple. Especially when it's popular people.

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posted April 21, 2011 11:20 AM            

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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
Actually, all credibility was lost upon the enforcement of rules. Went from a self-Moderated site to a dictatorship. Truth.

People should be allowed to say what they want to say. If it's truly out of line, the populace will speak up. The only real bannable offense should be spamming, and the posting of truly offensive stuff.

Being here and participating is taking the site forward in a positive way. I don't know how many times I have to remind people around here that it's the people that make the site. When you get rid of the people, you hurt your site. Plain and simple. Especially when it's popular people.

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AG
I have to say this respectfully,but that is one of the MOST ridiculous things I ever heard.
I know you are a responsible ,hard working and mature person.
I think you are more mature than I am ,in many ways.
However,I wonder what experiences you had in life that allow you to come to that fallacious conclusion.
I speak this with respect and honor to you cuz I have that.

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posted April 21, 2011 11:23 AM            

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If rules aren't enforced, why have any? No, you can't say anything you want here. No personal insults are allowed. Yes, it happens, and yes, people are remorseful, and we learn from it. And if you truly feel that you should say anything you want, then why are you so well-behaved? Self-moderation is democracy--rule of the majority--with no regard for the minority. It is like a group of wolves and one sheep voting on dinner. But, as per Juni's request, I am closing this.

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posted April 21, 2011 11:26 AM            

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Ami,

You can't understand what I know. You haven't been here. You haven't been embroiled in this stuff, and you haven't personally dealt with troublemakers in the way that I've had to. You're like a brand new apprentice trying to speak truth to the retiree.

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posted April 21, 2011 11:28 AM            

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And if you truly feel that you should say anything you want, then why are you so well-behaved?

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Because I'm awesome.

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Self-moderation is democracy--rule of the majority--with no regard for the minority.

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No. It's life. You screw up in your real life, and people call you out on it, right? Same here.

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posted April 21, 2011 11:29 AM            

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AG
I get the apprentice and retiree thing but,Dear, truth is truth. Respect is respect.
Values are values.
These are enduring.
You showed me so much love when I was struggling.
I will always have love in my heart for you,AG,but I disagree 100% with your Point of View.

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posted April 21, 2011 11:29 AM            

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AG, Ami is exactly right. Lindaland has never been "self-moderated." Read the main page. Read the Agreement when one signs up. And T has already said it's no biggie to her if she is banned. If she doesn't care, why should we? Plus, she has said that she is done with this place and won't be back, so it is all a moot point. Onward and upward! Everyone, please keep in mind the underlying theme here: No personal insults, please. AG, your theory would do away with all prisons?

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